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bs83 Aug 4th, 2007 11:16 AM

"borrowing" tickets for SeaWorld?
 
We're heading out to San Diego tomorrow morning and as it so turns out my cousin's family all went to there last week and bought SeaWorld tickets (the 2 days for the price of 1) but they only stayed one day and wont be going back anytime soon. So she offered to give us their 2nd day tickets. Can we do that? Do they have names on them? Do they ask for ids? It'd be really nice for us...that saves us $200, which was the bulk of our trip expense. But I'm worried we'll get to the gate and they won't accept them for some reason. :/

dawnnoelm Aug 4th, 2007 11:30 AM

was there a date to use them by? Often WDW 2 day passes have a time period on them...

TahitiTams Aug 4th, 2007 11:44 AM

Call 1-800-25-SHAMU and ask..
If its etickets, the answer is no since they have their name and you need id and cc#.

I wish you luck because $200 is lots of $$!

seaworld.com

LN Aug 4th, 2007 12:09 PM

tickets must be used before 12/26/07

User MUST present photo ID with ticket at San Diego

Sorry!!

dawnnoelm Aug 4th, 2007 12:16 PM

they never asked us for photo id when we went over spring break. I would suggest you try and if they ask - just pay for your admission.

cpeicott Aug 4th, 2007 07:57 PM

Hi,
We were at SD SW a few months ago and they took our fingerprints!
I also was going to pass my tickets on to a relative and realized that they probably would not be able to use them, assuming that they would check to see if the prints matched.

MikeT Aug 4th, 2007 10:45 PM

Just pay for the tickets yourself. Do you really want your children to see you getting caught breaking the rules or giving them the lesson that it's okay to break rules, even if you don't get caught?

kleroux Aug 5th, 2007 02:29 PM

Sorry I'd at least try. I can't believe some student at a gate can read fingerprints!!! Just don't look guilty. Even show I.D. if asked. The tickets were paid for not stolen, after all...

freeman0819 Aug 5th, 2007 02:42 PM

<<Just pay for the tickets yourself. Do you really want your children to see you getting caught breaking the rules or giving them the lesson that it's okay to break rules, even if you don't get caught?>>

Oh please, this is not armed robbery... It does NOT hurt to try. If it doesn't work, look confused, and go buy a ticket at the ticket office.

dawnnoelm Aug 5th, 2007 02:45 PM

freeman - that is what I would do as well. No big deal imo.

shaz60 Aug 5th, 2007 02:48 PM

I agree. The tickets have been paid for not stolen and if your cousin's family uses them or you use them, what difference does it make?

lincasanova Aug 5th, 2007 03:55 PM

otherwise, if you have a friend who belongs to AAA, she can buy you some discounted tickets.

i donīt recall names being asked, but maybe things have changed since i was there.



1JAR Aug 5th, 2007 05:26 PM

It would be interesting to have the OP rtn and post the outcome... I'd like to hear what happened if the OP tried to use the 2 for 1 tickets...

BetsyinKY Aug 5th, 2007 06:50 PM

I recently took a group of students to Universal Studios in Orlando. We had two day passes and on the pass it said something about needing a photo ID. I was worried, because most of the students didn't have a photo ID with them, but our tour guide said not to worry, because they use a fingerprint instead. Sure enough, on the first day when we went in, we had to put our thumb onto a scanner, which presumably read and stored our print. On the second day, when we put our tickets into the reader, we again had to have our thumbprint scanned before the turnstile would move. From what another poster has said, it sounds like Sea World has a similar system. I suppose you could try the tickets, as long as you don't mind the possible hassle/embarassment if they don't work.

Dukey Aug 6th, 2007 12:25 AM

Interesting responses from the same people who are pissed off about illegal aliens.

Mincepie Aug 6th, 2007 03:17 AM

With the finger print scanner, I'm prettysure you will not be able to use them. You will not only be embarassed, you will have to join yet another line!

gmoney Aug 6th, 2007 04:00 AM

"Just pay for the tickets yourself. Do you really want your children to see you getting caught breaking the rules or giving them the lesson that it's okay to break rules, even if you don't get caught?"

MikeT get off your moral soapbox. The tickets were purchased and not used, why shouldn't they try to use them. It's not like the tickets were stolen or something, no rules were broken. If they can use them, great, if not then just purchase tickets. No harm, no foul.

starrsville Aug 6th, 2007 04:19 AM

"no rules were broken"

Not so sure about that, or there wouldn't be all of this discussion on asking for IDs and do they check the fingerprints.

I agree with MikeT.

If the tickets say they are transferable, then "no rules were broken". If the tickets are non-transferable, then rules ARE broken to use them.

hop_along Aug 6th, 2007 05:39 AM

Fingerprints to get into SeaWorld??? You folks can't be serious. (Can you?)

GoTravel Aug 6th, 2007 05:53 AM

I think Sea World and amusement parks have started fingerprinting and tightening up on their multi days passes is because of the abuse to the system.

dawnnoelm Aug 6th, 2007 07:18 AM

I guess I do not see how it is abuse to the system. The pass was purchased and is good for a 2 day admittance.

Barbara Aug 6th, 2007 08:08 AM

"But I'm worried we'll get to the gate and they won't accept them for some reason."

It took me a while to stop laughing.
These tickets are non-transferable and non-refundable. This is precisely why you have to show picture ID, etc. etc.

I wonder if the OP will came back to let us know what happened if they tried to use them.

xrae Aug 6th, 2007 08:45 AM

Yes, SeaWorld, Disney, Busch Gardens (Tampa anyway) all use finger scanners of some sort to match the person going through the gate with the person who first used the ticket.

Now on our trip to Orlando this year we purchased a 7-day admission ticket that worked at both Sea World and Busch Gardens. But I don't think we were admitted to the parks the same way any of the four times we were. Some days they took our finger scans. Some days they asked for photo ID. I think on one day we showed the ticket paper at them and they waved us in.

SO ... you may be able to get in with the tickets, and you may not. But the tickets are intended to be non-transferrable. That's the reason these parks started implementing the finger scanners.

rm_mn Aug 6th, 2007 10:14 AM

So the amusement parks are using this to scam the customers? You buy 2 days of tickets and can't use the second day so you have to just throw them away? No refund on the unused portion? Can't just give them to someone else to use?

Barbara Aug 6th, 2007 10:20 AM

Not the one in question here. It was a two-days-for-the-price-of-one ticket. The park makes money from concessions on the second day. It's a good deal if you use it, but you don't lose anything if you don't.

MikeT Aug 6th, 2007 10:21 AM

No one forced you to buy a two-day pass. You bought it at your peril. Why should an amusement park given discounted two-day passes when they know people like the OP will just scam off the discount of someone else.

It is a horrible lesson to children. Like sneaking children into hotels, lying about their ages to get discounts, etc.

rm_mn Aug 6th, 2007 12:31 PM

No it's not like sneaking a child into a hotel. It's like paying for your child David to share your room and them substituting your friend's child Joseph to share your room because David had a baseball game.

Suppose I owned a bookstore and to increase my turnover, I offered 2 books for the price of one (same title only) with the stipulation that only you could read the books. Fair? Why should I have any control over how you use the books once the money is handed over? The books no longer belong to me, they are yours. You can read both of them, burn one or both, give them as gifts, whatever. The tickets have been sold, money has exchanged hands. If you choose to give out 2 day tickets for the price of one, that's your choice. It should be my choice of how they are used since you now have my money. We aren't talking about sneaking in someone extra, we're asking to substitute a different person to use the ticket.

travelbug44 Aug 6th, 2007 12:39 PM

very well put rm

starrsville Aug 6th, 2007 12:41 PM

no surprise there! :-))

Barbara Aug 6th, 2007 01:06 PM

One of the conditions of purchase/use is that the tickets are non-transferable. If you don't like the deal, you don't have to buy. However, once you decide to buy, you are required to honor the deal you made.

It isn't a rip-off by Sea World in any way.

MikeT Aug 6th, 2007 01:43 PM

"We aren't talking about sneaking in someone extra, we're asking to substitute a different person to use the ticket."

Except the ticket says specifically that you can't do that. By purchasing the ticket, you are accepting the contract that you just can't hand out the second day ticket to any person on the street or even sell it.

The goal of the second-day ticket is to provide a discount--a benefit--to consumers who already have paid for the first day. By passing that benefit on to people who haven't earned it, you are undermining the goal of the discount and forcing retailers to withdraw the benefit.

321go Aug 6th, 2007 01:59 PM

"The tickets have been sold, money has exchanged hands." Yes, under the terms and conditions of the sale. So if the terms are that the tickets are non-transferable, then the buyer has agreed to that condition when they bought the ticket. If the terms are no refunds, ditto. Doesn't mean the buyer has to like it, but if those terms were clearly posted/written/explained at the time of the sale, then I wouldn't say they're scamming the customer.

freeman0819 Aug 6th, 2007 02:04 PM

A benefit would be a reduction in ticket prices. If it didn't cost $60 or so just to set foot in Sea World and similar such places, we wouldn't have to borrow tickets. Right?

starrsville Aug 6th, 2007 02:05 PM

A plea from a former middle school teacher - please consider what you are modeling for your children when you "cheat" the system and hope not to be caught - especially if embarassment is your #1 concern. You are demonstrating for them is it okay to cheat, lie, "bend the rules" - and they will transfer that behavior into school - and into their teen years.

I miss the kids and miss teaching but I don't miss the crap that went along with it - and the "crap" was directly connected to students' misbehaviors and the parents backing them up even when the kids were caught red-handed.

It IS a big deal - at least to some of us, I suppose.

NeoPatrick Aug 6th, 2007 02:11 PM

Huh, freeman? What are you saying? If the price is too high for you to afford going, that's really too bad, but saying because you can't afford it, that gives you the "right" to break the rules. . . ?

As mentioned, the two day ticket is set up to encourage the SAME people to come a second day at a discount, not to buy tickets to share with friends.

Starrsville has it right. While you're teaching your kids to break the rules, I hope you give them a few good tips on how to distract the people selling ice cream so you can swipe one for free when they aren't looking. But of course, such action would be justified -- if they didn't charge so much for ice cream in the first place you wouldn't have to try to steal it -- right?

J_Correa Aug 6th, 2007 02:40 PM

I don't understand what the price of the tickets has to do with anything either. If you can't afford the tickets or just don't want to pay the high price, then don't go.

I agree with the others who say it is wrong to use the passes - regardless of whether you can. The terms and conditions say they are non-transferable.

OO Aug 6th, 2007 02:56 PM

The posts advocating trying to get away with it make me sad--sad, but at the same time angry. How did so many of you get your value systems so far out of whack?? Do you think of yourselves as dishonest people...because you know of course, that is, so in trying to get away with this, you are as well. Do you think of yourself as cheats? No...? Too funny.

There is no way on earth you can justify using the tickets. Here are the rules, stated on their website. I am certain the same rules are printed on the tickets.

<i>1. When you buy a two day admission ticket to Sea World (San Antonio in this case) you can come back to a 2nd visit to Sea World San Antonio any time until December 31, 2007

2. The second visit must take place by 12-31-07

<b>3. This ticket is non-transferable and non-refundable.</b>

4. This offer is not valid with any other special events or discounts.</i>

There is an option to purchase a single day pass by the way. Adult single day costs $44.09 pp. Adult Multi-day costs 48.99. Bs cousin opted for multi-day, not single. By using these non-transferable non-refundable tickets bought by her cousin, bs83 stands to &quot;save&quot; $200, by her own admission, and Sea World has been cheated out of that same amount. That's not exactly a <u>little</u> white lie now, is it? What do you suppose the penalty would be if you were caught stealing $200 worth of merchandise from a store/company/individual?

Gads people!

aucho53 Aug 6th, 2007 03:21 PM

I think the OP should just ask their cousin if they were fingerprinted or had their ID checked...if they were then there's a pretty good chance they could use them. If they were fingerprinted or had their ID checked then I would say save yourself and your kids the embarassment and just buy the tickets.

Layla %%-

aucho53 Aug 6th, 2007 03:22 PM

sorry that should have read if they weren't then they could probably use them.....

NeoPatrick Aug 6th, 2007 04:00 PM

so, aucho, the embarrassment would only happen IF they got caught? The parents shouldn't be equally embarrassed about showing their children that it's OK to cheat as long as you can get away with it? How sad. I guess some of us are embarrassed by things others might even be proud of.


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