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mm-thanks for the support on Nashua. I've not been there for a while (good friend in Hollis, though)--glad to hear the downtown is doing better.<BR><BR>Sue-where WOULD you live?<BR><BR>neaster-re: harsh winters...you obviously have not been in Pennsylvania this year, in Northeastern PA they have had snow on the ground since Thanksgiving. Don't know about the rest of the state. Southern NJ's winters are less harsh but who would want to live there?<BR><BR>nj-I agree. I grew up in NJ.
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NYC has the best culture anywhere in the world but you can't claim that for the whole Northeast.<BR><BR>I have relatives in Princeton and no, I don't like New Jersey and like Penn even less.<BR><BR>Right now I am temporarily in London until June.
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Oooh! Jodi, our original poster is back. Congratulations, you have initiated quite a thread. Can you please explain why you need to live amongst "locals". Have you ever heard of the saying "you can never go home any more?" As I said above, the "locals" already have their friends. It's much easier and more fun to meet other "newbies" when you are new to a place yourself.
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Well the reason I talk about locals is that I have been living in Washington DC for the past 6 years and the transient nature of this place has really worn on me. I come from a town that I grew up in my whole life, where people grow roots.<BR><BR>I agree with you that it is easier to meet people when everyone is new to an area, but I'm interested in laying down some roots of my own within a city. So it's important to me that people stick around.<BR><BR>Does that make sense?<BR><BR>I think this is a good discussion. I too was contemplating the new england area. I've been to Boston and Hartford as well as other towns in CT and RI. But I think Philadelphia is a better fit for me.
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NJ bashing based on a stereotype is just plain stupid. Depending on where you grew up or visited in NJ you may choose to bash it. If I grew up in Passaic, Dover, Lodi, Newark, Elizabeth, Irvington, Union I would probably bash NJ too. However, anyone who has seen the wealth belt would have a hard time thinking of reasons to bash NJ. If you grew up in Chester,Mendham, Madison,Chatham, summit, Short Hills, Westfield, New Providence, Berkeley Heights, Warren, Basking Ridge,Far Hills, Harding, Princeton,Holmdel,Colts Neck to name a few. it doesn't get any better. and I have seen it all. NO better school systems, close enough to NY to take advantage of all it has to offer, far enough away to live on a horse farm, and still be within a 15 minute drive to world class shopping and dining. mountains, fishing, lakes, beaches, Newark airport (direct flights to almost anywhere), mild winters, wonderful spring weather, nice summers, great fall. What more is there to ask for?
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joebob, I'm not bashing NJ, I'm just saying that *I* don't like NJ. Am I not allowed to have my opinion?<BR><BR>I think if you reread my posts, you'll see that.
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Jodi, thanks for the explanation. I can see your point and have even experienced the frustration of having had friends move elsewhere. BTW, Philadelphia is a great city--low cost of living, great arts, sports, museums, restaurants and history.<BR><BR>joebob, having grown up in Westfield and had grandparents in Colts Neck and friends in college from many of those other towns, it is amazing to me how few people realize the wealth that exists in that state. The summers can be uncomfortably hot and humid, however.
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it was not directed specifically at you. and why would I want to reread your posts? I just find it inconceivable that anyone who has seen the best of NJ, not the Newark-Airport-Turnpike stretch could not like it.
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I like Netcong, NJ<BR>
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I disagree: I find it interesting that you backed up what I said about jersey and then in the same breath said who'd want to live in south jersey? Well I for one do live there and after having traveled half the world, find it to be a perfectly fine place to live. <BR><BR>For all the other naysayers of NJ, I could name a lot worse places to live.
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nj-sorry if I offended you. The comment about south Jersey was a generalization and your comment about generalizing was what I was supporting. My perception of south Jersey is based on the fact that once you head inland, there is not much there. After all, isn't that where the "Jersey Devil" lives? I think Cape May is a wonderful place, although I'll take a pass on Atlantic City. Some of the other coastal towns are great in the Summer.
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the thing about NJ is that whether or not you like it all, it is all there.<BR><BR>I don't like Atlantic City either, but if I ever get in the mood to gamble and all that, it is there. Cape May, Stone Harbor the great Jersey beaches are there. <BR><BR>NJ/NY/Ct is great because it has the best of EVERYTHING and ANYTHING to offer.
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Can we open this up for opinions on Philly?
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yes we can talk about Philly, aside from there sucky sports teams (Phillies,Flyers,Eagles) it can be included in the nice places to live category, most of the nice things mentioned about NJ, apply to PHilly as well (beaches,AC, proximity to NY...) especially bucks county and voorhees (suburb in NJ) the cost of living in PHilly/PA area is also attractive. great restaurants....
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I disagree: There is plenty in south jersey in the area I live (Cherry Hill), which is also right outside of Philly, so between the two I never run out of options. The Jersey Devil actually lives in the Pine Barrens, which is at least an hour south of me and not representative of the entire south jersey region in terms of not much going on.
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Can you think of any downsides to living in Philly -- downtown or suburbs, doesn't matter.
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To I disagree:<BR>Please don't lump Albany, Schenectady and Troy into one. I've lived in Albany for over 10 years and I love it. Sure it's no tourist hotbed, but housing costs are great, we have several colleges/universities, good well-priced restaurants (and I'm not talking about Chilis), we have all kinds of outdoor activities. And if I ever want to go somewhere else, we have an newly refurbished airport (that includes Southwest!) so I can fly just about anywhere in the US for $250. <BR><BR>Schenectady on the other hand...you have to drag me screaming.<BR><BR>And as far as the weather comments...aren't we talking about cities in the "Northeast"? Doesn't it get cold everywhere up here? It's generally about 10 degrees colder than NYC here. We do have an unusual amount of snow this year, tho. I remember last year walking my dog on the golfcourse in my shirtsleeves on several mid-winter days last year.
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"Sucky" sports teams? That'll be news to Andy Reid and the Eagles . . . <BR><BR>Sports teams aside, Philadelphia is a wonderful place to live. Wonderful culture, restaurants, architecture, parks, great people, good vibe.<BR><BR>The big down side is the city wage tax, which you must pay whether you live or work in the city (even if you don't do BOTH in the city). But the pluses outweigh the minuses, I think. I've done an awful lot of travelling--both for business and pleasure--and I can't think of another major American city where I'd rather be at this point in my life. And I suspect it will only get better with Rendell in the White House. <BR><BR>
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When I said not all of the NE had harsh winters, I was referring more to SE PA, NJ, MD and DE which have not had what I would call "harsh" winters.
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I mean, Governor's Mansion!!! Not White House (not yet, anyway ;). . . . )<BR><BR>
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