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socialworker Sep 19th, 2008 06:08 PM

We have stayed at the Venetian several times and I would never refer to them as having "tiny" LRs and BRs. A king bed with plenty of space surrounding the bed, and the step-down LR had a full sized couch, coffee table, one or two side chairs and a dining table with four chairs! I don't see how anyone could consider so much space tiny....The furniture was not cramped either.

Maybe it all depends on what you are accustomed to, but we found the room very spacious. It was great to have a real place to sit down and put your feet up and not feel like you were just in a bedroom.

And, BTW, the bathroom was gargantuan! :)

NeoPatrick Sep 19th, 2008 06:16 PM

I've never been in a Venetian Suite, I was only going by what friends said -- and their perception. I have been in a standard Bellagio room and thought it was indeed very spacious. So I just checked with the Bellagio and the Venetian websites.

The standard Bellagio King room is 510 square feet. The standard Venetian King Suite is 650 square feet. Take out the bath from each and let's just assume if both baths are similar size you have 410 compared to 550. Divide the suite in half and you have two rooms at 275 square feet each compared to one room at 410 square feet.

So I can easily see how the one large room could be perceived as more roomy and less "claustrophobic" than the two separate rooms. Although, I think someone would be pushing the envelope to call either of those alternatives as being "tiny" or "cramped", neither of which are terms my friends used, by the way. It's not such a stretch to think that one very large room seems roomier or more spacious than two considerably smaller rooms.

socialworker Sep 19th, 2008 06:23 PM

Patrick, your logic is impeccable with one flaw. Since there is no wall in the Ventian suite, there are not two "actual" rooms. The 2 "virtual" rooms are perceived by the eye as one expansive, albeit multi-leveled, space. At least, it certainly felt that way to us!

NeoPatrick Sep 19th, 2008 06:33 PM

Interesting. I know what you mean as I've stayed in similar "suites" elsewhere, but my friends specifically described it as two separate rooms saying they clearly preferred the "huge single room" of the Bellagio. But I suppose to each his own.


dmlove Sep 19th, 2008 06:53 PM

Socialworker, our room was the same as your's, and I think the same as all the rooms at the Venetian, One large room with a step down half-way toward the window.

SiteC_er Sep 19th, 2008 07:50 PM

Using Neo Patrick's footage, the Venetian rooms are nearly 25% larger. For what it's worth, I prefer the Bellagio location but the Venetian rooms.

Petalz Sep 20th, 2008 08:32 AM

Maybe Neo's friends got it backwards. I can't imagine how 650 feet could be considered cramped.

Toucan2 Sep 20th, 2008 08:38 AM

I've not stayed at the Venetian. Had to smile and have to agree with obiandchewy that the rooms were fine, but the bath was great!

NeoPatrick Sep 20th, 2008 09:24 AM

Well as an interior designer I can easily understand how one room (on two levels) arranged as two separate areas could be construed as less spacious then one somewhat smaller room arranged in one more open configuration. That's a very easy thing to picture. Furniture placement, dividing a room visually, and even changing levels can create lots of varying visual impact.

You're right though that it's hard to imagine calling it "claustrophobic", which I'm pretty sure was their word. In fact, it's hard to imagine their calling it a "tiny bedroom" and a "tiny living area" -- now that I've also looked at pictures on the Venetian website. But even more puzzling was their comment about "not needing the privacy between the two rooms" as if there were such a thing at Venetian. That is really a bizarre comment if all the suites are open as one room on two levels! Or perhaps they said something like "we didn't need two different areas" and I mistakenly took that to mean the two areas were completely divided. I think the bottom line was that they had stayed at the Bellagio before on their very first trip to Vegas and LOVED it, but got "talked" into doing the Venetian the second trip and just didn't like it nearly as much. I now suspect they may have been "looking for things" not to like about it.


kkharrison Sep 20th, 2008 12:43 PM

I didn't read all of these, so I hope I'm not repeating!

As a female, I would vote for the Venetian: the bathrooms are more well lit.

At the Bellagio I had to put on make up in the public ladies room (it was just too hard to see!)

To be fair, this was a few years ago, maybe they changed it.

mnss Sep 20th, 2008 12:57 PM

I've stayed at both and would say the Venetian hands down. Both are luxury hotels but the venetian is definitely the better value.

The Venetian room is larger than the Bellagio's, and feels much more spacious with the additional seating area which is one step below the bed area adding a nice cozy feel. Each section of the room comes with a separate plasma screen. The marble bathroom is quite large and is comparable to that of the Bellagio.


I have no idea why Patrick is commenting on a hotel at which he has never stayed- his perception of the room is completely off.

NeoPatrick Sep 20th, 2008 01:34 PM

mnss. Perhaps you didn't read ALL my posts. I explained clearly from the start that my comments were the reflection of friends who stayed at both the Bellagio and Venetian. I was unaware that second hand comments from people we know are not allowed here? It was NOT my perception of the room at all. Isn't that clear?

This was not meant to be some sort of contest. I added a comment from someone who had stayed at both. Sorry you don't agree with their comments -- and if you'll read, I've already said I don't get them either.

But your comments are interesting too. Some would say that "cozy" is not the same as "spacious". In fact in the design world and the real estate world, "cozy" is usually used to mean "small and close" -- the exact opposite of spacious. But I'm sure that's not how you meant it from your other comments. If I read a room had a cozy feel, I'd immediately think it was small. It's all a matter of personal perception isn't it? I have no stake in this decision. I don't own stock in either. Just trying to be helpful.

mnss Sep 20th, 2008 02:48 PM

Well I meant the lower seating area added a cozy feel, not that the room was cozy because it was big :-)

kflodin Oct 30th, 2008 08:41 AM

You've probably gone and come back, but for what it's worth, we just came back and stayed at the Venetian. We're long-time Bellagio lovers, but Bellagio was significantly more expensive for this particular weekend. And, while the Venetian did have SLIGHTLY nicer rooms, I love the fountain view of the Bellagio and I much prefer the hotel atmosphere of the Bellagio. Elegant and calmer. And the Venetian so overdoes it with the scent they pipe into the pubilc areas that it became the deal breaker in the future. It's downright headachey. If the Bellagio is ever expensive again in the same way it was this time, I'll punt and pick Mirage, not the Venetian, because of the scent alone.

Little_Man Oct 30th, 2008 03:17 PM

The Palazzo, concierge level.

mousespotter Nov 20th, 2008 10:36 PM

Hands down, the Bellagio. My husband and I spent 8 days at the Venetian this past July; we both got food poisoning from one of their restaurants, the casino is lame with terrible pay tables, they pump so much cold air into the casino in the mornings that my husband got a cold on top of the food poisoning. The outside of the property smells like sewage. The hotel room was somewhat dirty, and the carpet staples cut your feet whenever you forget to step over them. Plus, I heard they are filing for bankruptcy. I wonder why... The Bellagio is a classy joint all the way around; with the gardens and grounds and artwork and blown glass sculptures. The pools are great. Overall, a stunning resort.

Postal Nov 22nd, 2008 10:10 AM

I've stayed at five different hotels in LV and just booked the Venetian again. My husband likes TV and the bedroom and living room are far enough apart for him to watch TV from the sofa and the sound not bothering me.

The bathrooms are the largest I've ever been in and have a very elegant feel. Don't even try to compare them to Bellagio's!

rncheryl Nov 22nd, 2008 01:20 PM

Stayed at the Venetian and liked it very much, but didn't spend too much time in the living area. (Bathroom I remember as being fabulous).

Just got home from a stay at Bellagio, in a room on 24th floor overlooking the fountains. Could not have been better. Very comfortable beds, super friendly staff, as clean as could be. Bellagio gets my vote.

anna_roz Nov 22nd, 2008 04:51 PM

Definitely dark chocolate, gardenias, and Venice! LOL
I say Bellagio.

Anna Roz


ncounty Nov 22nd, 2008 08:38 PM

I like Bellagio the hotel much better. More elegant IMO.

I've stayed at the Venetian a few years ago and found the rooms a bit tired and faded. Unremarkable. Haven't stayed in the Bellagio to compare.

I usually stay at the Mandalay Bay. My splurge stay would be at the Wynn.


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