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berniekern Mar 5th, 2010 01:51 PM

3 bdrm apartment manhattan/april
 
Need a 3 bedroom apartment for one week abut April 17-14. No steps if possible;

Midtown would be preferable.

nytraveler Mar 5th, 2010 04:37 PM

Short-term rentals in Manhattan are usually illegal and not uncommonly scams. (Separately, that's a large apt for Manhattan - where most are studios or one bedrooms - not easy to find.)

Is there some reason you can;t use a hotel?

What is your budget and what bed configuration do you need? People can then make recos that will not present potential issues.

mclaurie Mar 5th, 2010 05:33 PM

3 bedroom apts. are very rare and therefore very expensive. Why do you need 3 bedrooms? Separate rooms for adults will be cheaper.

mclaurie Mar 5th, 2010 05:34 PM

What was wrong with the 2 bedroom info you got?

SusieQQ Mar 6th, 2010 02:15 AM

Listen to the above advice. Most apartment rentals in NYC are either illegal or scams. There are some nice apartment/hotels. Try the Affinia Group.

berniekern Mar 11th, 2010 10:09 AM

Thanks for all the comments. Yes, 3 brm flats are hard to find, but they do exist, and I am having luck finding large 2 bedroom ones whist sleep 5 people, which I need.
This is a great site.

vjpblovesitaly Mar 11th, 2010 10:25 AM

You did read the part where they are mostly illegal, right?

nytraveler Mar 11th, 2010 10:48 AM

Suggest that you run the apartment specifics - location, company etc - past NYC locals here that can provide some perspective.

Often the sites have incorrect info (one said 15 minutes to Manhattan when it was in Jersey - so 15 minutes by helicopter) and others are outright scams.

A couple of previous posters here were scammed out of the money they paid - so do tyr to get all the help you can checking on the places you're looking at.

berniekern Mar 23rd, 2010 06:20 PM

RESTAURANT SUGGESTIONS?? for east 50th st. area 300 block east.
Found a great 3 bedroom flat in New York for my family.
Now need suggestions for shops and restaurants in the area.

SusieQQ Mar 24th, 2010 03:06 AM

So, how did you find this GREAT apartment. Did get it in an apartment/hotel or did you ignore our suggestions and rent an illegal?

suewoo Mar 24th, 2010 04:46 AM

berniekern, did they ask for a large deposit? If so you probably lost your money.

vjpblovesitaly Mar 24th, 2010 04:59 AM

Why would anyone in their right mind help you any further, bernie?

NeoPatrick Mar 24th, 2010 08:27 AM

Kind of strange.

Berniekern says, "This is a great site", but does exactly what nearly everyone has said NOT to do. Any chance we're going to find out what this "great apartment find" was?

Or am I missing the boat here and he/she really HAS found a great legitimate apartment rental?

And does this mean he's looking for restaurant suggestions now so he can avoid going to the ones recommended by Fodorites?

berniekern Mar 29th, 2010 03:33 PM

Yes, have a 3 brm apartment on e 50th st. not a scam. see"lisasuites" e 57th st flats. a penthouse- legitimate. Would be happy with Fodorite restaurant suggestions- haven't seen any on this site. Have Fodor guide book- but would like any recommended places in neighborhood. East 50's- 1st or 2nd ave. for example. I'm sure there are many- but would be nice to know if you have any special favorites-i.e.:french?

SusieQQ Mar 29th, 2010 03:41 PM

do you have a web site for "lisasuites"? a search brings up no results.

berniekern Mar 29th, 2010 03:55 PM

go to:[email protected]

EricH Mar 29th, 2010 04:44 PM

Oh, that makes a huge difference. Not everyone can get an e-mail address, so the "penthouse" on 50th St. is absolutely legit.

I kind of know 50th St. and can't think of any buildings there that might have a "penthouse" unless a 5th floor walkup is your idea of a penthouse.

EricH Mar 29th, 2010 04:56 PM

Bernie,

If you go forward with this "legit rental," please have a Plan B that includes walking four blocks to 53rd and 3rd where your namesake, Mr. Madoff, had his offices. It might help to be able to think of others who lost much more.

SusieQQ Mar 29th, 2010 05:04 PM

>>>[email protected]<<<
is an email address not a web site. What is the web site?

nytraveler Mar 29th, 2010 05:12 PM

I hope you have the exact address of the building and have checked it out on google maps - to be sure it exists and also that it is a residential building. (And not one of those 750 east 52nd St -- which would put it in the middle of the East River. I once tried to help a couple from Germany who had gotten off the subway with their bags and were trying to find an apartment they were told was at the corner of 7th Ave and 95th St - which would put it in the middle of Central Park. I hoped that they had confused 7th with 2nd Ave - but they showed me 7th in writing - but no specific street address.)

If you list the name of the web site locals can look at it and try to figure out what it is. And I hope you have a 24 hour landline in case of any problems - not just a gmail address or cell phone).

MikeT Mar 29th, 2010 05:25 PM

OK, hasn't this pile-on gone long enough? You told him they were likely illegal, he rejected your advice. It doesn't seem English is his first language, so all the sniping really isn't paying off. So why continue to harp on it?

SusieQQ Mar 30th, 2010 02:04 AM

Your right MikeT, I'm out of this discussion. The OP blatantly doesn't care if he rents something illegal or not. He doesn't seem to mind that he is probably breaking the law.

vjpblovesitaly Mar 30th, 2010 05:10 AM

If you google "[email protected]"

the only thing that comes up is this email. I find that a bit strange since this is an email a contact for a "reputable" company.

vjpblovesitaly Mar 30th, 2010 05:11 AM

"the only thing that comes up is this email."

Sorry, meant to say the only that comes up is this THREAD

NeoPatrick Mar 30th, 2010 08:18 AM

if you drop the 57 from the email address and google you also get a "Heartland Cremation society" in Kansas or something like that. Maybe that's an omen?

nytraveler Mar 30th, 2010 04:35 PM

I don;t think people are "piling on" - I think we're trying to help the OP figure out what the situation actually is. Not legality versus no - but scam or not.

However, they seem determined not to accept any help or suggestions.

berniekern Apr 1st, 2010 08:07 AM

Thanks for the continued concern about the existence of this apartment. I now have a telephone number and have had conversations with a real live person. This is for real and I am looking forward to a lovely apartment.

SusieQQ Apr 1st, 2010 08:45 AM

If it does exist and is not a scam then the chances are 99% that it is illegal. If you have no regards for the laws in NYC then enjoy it! I hope that I ever visit your city that I have more respect for the laws that you may have.

doug_stallings Apr 1st, 2010 09:30 AM

I don't know why anyone should be incensed that berniekern is renting an illegal apartment. He's been warned and has rejected that warning, and that's sufficient, I think.

Basically, it's not a problem unless there's a problem (someone in the building complains, something goes wrong with the rental). Then he has absolutely no recourse. It's not a risk I'd take, but if he wants to take it, I don't have a moral objection. Mine is strictly a consumer-rights issue, of which he has absolutely none.

NeoPatrick Apr 1st, 2010 09:56 AM

speaking of illegal, I wonder how many here have ever bought a fake watch, purse, or other product in NYC? Thousands of people do every day.

sf7307 Apr 1st, 2010 10:01 AM

NP - it's 1) irrespondible to to buy a fake watch or purse, 2) reprehensible to rent an apartment illegally, but 3) okay to flout the alcoholic beverage control laws. Go figure :-)

nytraveler Apr 1st, 2010 04:32 PM

It would be interesting to know the exact address of the building - and the web site of the renter - so others could consider taking advantage of the same great deal.

janisj Apr 1st, 2010 04:45 PM

In case the OP is still reading -- talking to a real live person doesn't necessarily mean the apartment actually exists.

janisj Apr 1st, 2010 05:18 PM

I <i>think</i> I've located the elusive listing

http://www.facebook.com/pages/New-Yo...29291?filter=2

Don't know which is the OP's flat but maybe the NYC locals can tell if they look legit

ellenem Apr 1st, 2010 06:31 PM

That Facebook page gave this as the actual website:

http://vacationrentalsmanhattan.com/

nytraveler Apr 2nd, 2010 09:11 AM

Well there is only 1 3-bedroom listed - on E 57th St - when the OP said E 50th - so perhaps this isn't the same company. There is a phone (cell) listed but no one answers. (I left a message well over an hour ago and it hasn't been returned - not great if you have a plumbing problem or similar.)

But I guess the OP will just have to tell us the details afterward.

MikeT Apr 2nd, 2010 09:53 AM

The pile-on continues. Seriously, Doug has it right. He was informed, he made his decision. That NYtraveler and janisj insist on continuing to play detective about it seems odd.

berniekern Apr 5th, 2010 09:09 AM

It is west 50th - I wrote East 50 in error. Does exist. Thanks for everyone's concern.

suewoo Apr 5th, 2010 09:16 AM

Be sure to make alternative plans. It's illegal.

ellenem Apr 5th, 2010 10:24 AM

Based on the address on the web site, I think this is is Worldwide Plaza.


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