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crellston Jul 31st, 2019 12:57 AM

Roll or fold or packing cubes/bags?
 
Travelling as much as I do, I consider myself to be an advanced level packer:p . Mostly travelling with carryon only I pack light even for long trips, although for the first time in many years I am looking at checking bags for our October trip to South Africa and January to Japan

My current packing list is here https://accidentalnomads.com/2016/05...ck-like-a-man/

I am very happy with what I pack but am beginning to wonder if how I pack is the most efficient way in terms of volume, convenience and organisation.

Until now I have put rolled clothes into cylindrical compression bags but decided the other day to try a combination of folding pants and shorts and rolling tee shirts, shirts etc. and placing directly into my bag. Other stuff like bathroom and shave gear, underwear, electrical adaptors I use lightweight muji bags.

What are your planning regimes, tips, habits?

Macross Jul 31st, 2019 03:25 AM

I use cubes for good tops and pants laid flat, compression bag ,eagle creek, for other stuff and roll it.

schmerl Jul 31st, 2019 04:41 AM

I fold pants and they go right into the suitcase. I roll tops, underwear, etc, I use packing cubes for tops and underwear if the trip involves several different places. That makes it much easier to find what I need in each place. I have a bag for toiletries which goes into the suitcase.

AJPeabody Jul 31st, 2019 05:06 AM

Knits can go rolled or flat. Woven fabrics wrinkle if rolled since the inside of a curve is shorter than the outside, making wrinkles when the roll is compressed. Underwear fills chinks and spaces and also if placed inside a fold of a flat item prevents wrinkling at the fold. Hard objects go at the end of the case that will be the bottom when carried or wheeled. Small hard objects (eg, travel clock) goes inside hollow hard objects (shoes). Each shoe goes into a separate plastic bag to keep the rest of the suitcase clean. The only dedicated packing container I use is a kit bag for all the miscellaneous small things.

Packing cubes add weight when every ounce counts against the low weight allowances for carry ons. I use the flimsy plastic bags from the dry cleaner instead. I make packs of color-compatible items, one bottom, two tops, four sets of underwear, and place into a plastic . I make each pack the same size. Removing one pack at a destination leaves the rest untouched, making a trip with multiple stops easy in terms of unpacking and packing.

I take a "tall kitchen" garbage bag with built in drawstring to use as a bag for dirty garments. It keeps the dirty from the clean when packing for a change of location while making itself useful if a trip to a laundromat is in the cards.

janisj Jul 31st, 2019 07:20 AM

>>Roll or fold or packing cubes/bags?<<

For me, none of the above. I 'bundle'. Results in 1) no wrinkles at all, and 2) able to get more clothing into a carry-on sized bag so I never ever need to check a bag. (I don't pack more in than I need, but on some trips where there are significant different needs such as hiking for a week and then posh events in say London -- cramming more in is sometimes necessary)

This is a variation of bundling: From :49 onwards

(I do it slightly differently, and almost never put a coat in the carry-on. That would go in the overhead, or when traveling in a premium cabin my coat gets hung in the closet)

Odin Jul 31st, 2019 10:22 AM

<<British Airways very generously, allow two carry-on bags each weighing no more than 23kg! I don’t think I have ever checked in that amount of luggage, let alone carried it on board!). Most other airlines permit allow somewhere between 5 and 10 kg carry. Our bags usually weigh in at around 10kg.>> Wow how generous!

suze Jul 31st, 2019 11:30 AM

No rolling. No packing cubes. Limited use of gallon sized ziplocks to gather up socks, undies, etc.

I just fold clothes and lay them in the suitcase. Or sometimes do a loose bundle method like janisj mentioned for groups of clothes.

I have a collection of cosmetic bags and typically have 3-4 of those that I use to organize first aid, little things like keychain, flashlight, tweezers, dry toiletries, liquid toiletries, etc.

Fodorite018 Jul 31st, 2019 02:29 PM

I just fold my clothes and don't use any organizers. I do carryon only and this works for me. I am very good at folding to avoid wrinkles/creases, and so my husband asks me to pack his bag when he travels for work, especially when he needs to take suits with him. my suitcase has a separate zipper area where I put dirty clothes, so I don't need another bag for that.

kja Jul 31st, 2019 04:46 PM

I bundle and roll; I never fold. I only use compression packs if space (rather than weight) is at a premium. I use some plastic -- or better, mesh -- bags to keep related things together and to facilitate moving things in and out of my suitcase.

Interesting that we all have such different preferences!

Macross Jul 31st, 2019 04:56 PM

I just packed my under the seat bag for a three night trip. I hate bag fees. My gf is paying for a carry on and I am sharing cost of that so I can take the gifts we are bringing for our host. We are doing a beer fest for two days so hot and sweaty in beer tents. If not for the gifts I could do it with the bag that fits under the seat. We can do laundry and they have the hair stuff so no need for that. I love my eagle creek compression bags but no need this trip.

crellston Aug 1st, 2019 09:08 AM

Thank you all for your very interesting perspectives and insights into your packing habits. We have two house/pet sits in the U.K. before our South Africa trip so I shall test run as we move from place to place. The consensus seem to be to use bags/cubes/ containers of one type or another to keep things organised which I wholeheartedly agree with. I use reuseable bags rather than zip locks or plastic bags to attempt reduce environmental impact (but not sure how the conservation maths work our on that!).

In prep for my next move I just packed my (soft backpack, rather than hard suitcase) by basically folding the big stuff pants, shorts, jacket etc. of and rolling shirts and tee shirts. Underwear, socks, adaptors, toiletries etc go in Muji lightweight bags of various sizes. All seems to fit!

Avoiding creasing seem to figure highly with many of you. I tend to take the approach of taking "travel" clothing, designed not to crease. If it does I find it tends to drop out after a short time wearing. My go to dress up item is a "travel" linen jacket which as with much linen, looks fine, creased or not.

I watched the video janisj posted and smiled as it took me back to when I used to travel a lot on business when nicely pressed suits and shirts were essential. I packed in exactly that way! Happy not to have to worry about creases anymore!

gbelle1 Aug 1st, 2019 09:41 AM

I generally roll clothes and put them into XL Ziploc bags instead of packing cubes. They saved all our belongings on a return flight from vacation. Somehow the airline managed to pop every top and side lock on a hard sided suitcase as well as put a dent in it that looked like it was from a forklift. If it wasn’t for the luggage strap we used to identify and secure the suitcase and all our items packed inside the Ziploc bags, we would have lost everything. We reuse the XL bags for travel. However, I also used a zipped case from new sheets to store items in a carry-on.

suze Aug 1st, 2019 10:04 AM

I use reuseable bags rather than zip locks or plastic bags

You can use ziplocks and plastic bags over and over.

Traveler_Nick Aug 1st, 2019 07:23 PM

If at all possible I'm carry on only. Those packing cubes add weight. It may only be 50 grams here and 50 there but it takes up weight.

I have a cable/adapter bag. Security is much happier if I pull that out . Seeing a mass of wires on the Xray screen seems to worry them.

I bring one dry bag to put dirty clothing into. The thing will last forever. Once sealed is water and air proof. Camping type dry bag.

I do a test pack about two weeks before hand. Firstly to make sure I have everything I need in good condition. Then to check it all fits and is under the weight limit.

A few days before the trip I'll pack for real. Cinch down all the internal straps inside the case. The next day I'll open the case and tighten everything that's gotten loose. This way the softsided case doesn't bulge or exceed the size guidelines.

patandhank Aug 3rd, 2019 07:01 AM

AJPeabody you gave me a couple of great ideas I hadn’t thought of with your “packs.” I may try it on our upcoming trip. I do like compression cubes also and also use the very lightweight Eagle Creek ones.

DH and I are getting ready to leave on a 5 week trip (Central/Eastern Europe) and right now plan to try to use our smaller 21” suitcase because we have a couple of train segments and don’t want to wrestle the larger 24” bags. We still check our bags for flights but it’s the lugging them up stairs and lifting that gets old.

Loved the luggage services in Japan to send them ahead!!!


baldone Aug 4th, 2019 11:34 AM

Drives my wife crazy. But I'll just cram everything into my suitcase, no folding or rolling, save a pair of socks and boxers. Then just take it all to a laundry when we arrive and let them wash, press & fold. That said, all our travel is Latin America where cheap lavanderías are plentiful.
I'd love to be like Jack Reacher and have no luggage at all. Just buy new clothes at a discount store and throw away the old when it gets to funky to keep wearing.
Zip lock bags wear out too soon.

suze Aug 4th, 2019 02:59 PM

How long do you want a ziplock bag to last? 10 trips? 20 trips? 30 trips enough?

kja Aug 4th, 2019 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by suze (Post 16965173)
How long do you want a ziplock bag to last?

If the seal is important, I agree that it can "wear out" faster than one might like.

AJPeabody Aug 4th, 2019 06:31 PM

So, they still sell ziplocks. Buy new ones!

crellston Aug 4th, 2019 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by suze (Post 16965173)
How long do you want a ziplock bag to last? 10 trips? 20 trips? 30 trips enough?

The point is that even if they last 30 trips, the environmental impact when disposed of, lasts for centuries. The effect on wildlife is horrendous. Some of the world’s most beautiful places and now marred by plastic waste. I have seen plastic bags blowing through the Atacama desert and drifting in the water when diving in Indian Ocean. Very, very concerning.

There is a reason why many environmentally responsible country’s are increasing banning the use of plastic bags.

https://ntepa.nt.gov.au/waste-pollut...mental-impacts

Maybe the environmental agencies have got it wrong, but I somehow doubt it.

My Muji bags have lasted ten years so far and I do a lot of travelling. I fully expect them to outlast my travelling life!

suze Aug 5th, 2019 06:13 AM

crellston, I understand your position on not using plastic. At all. My comment was only addressing the person who said they wore out too soon. Which is a completely different reasoning than your objection.

TDudette Aug 5th, 2019 07:35 AM

Love your idea, baldone. Saving this to watch the bundling link again. Anyone do it that way?

We only used carry-ons. Two weeks and 3 changes of clothing just fit. We visited lavandarias a couple of times. Fold and wash services made a nice compromise between those and hotel services.

janisj Aug 5th, 2019 08:59 AM

>>Anyone do it that way?<<. Yes, as mentioned in the post with the link . . .

janisj Aug 5th, 2019 09:03 AM

ps: as do the 12,000+ people who have attended my packing classes over the years.

But mine is a little different plus has some variations/modifications for different sorts of trips.

Macross Aug 5th, 2019 09:12 AM

I never thought about those plastic zip bags sheets come in. I worked at an airport for many years and seeing red wine leaking out of suitcases always made me think about protecting your stuff. One time a lady was so upset because her bags had gotten wet in Atlanta and the red sweater she had on top ran and her clothes were pink. Sorry, that was not our fault. I always do carry on so not worried but if you check bags. I did ok with my under the seat bag and they never questioned my Longchamp tote. I put in overhead as there was plenty of room.

suze Aug 5th, 2019 10:37 AM

Anyone do it that way?

Sometimes yes sometimes no. For me it depends on the kind of trip. Am I going one place, staying there, and unpacking? Or I am moving around more often so living out of the suitcase? I'd pack differently for each.

TDudette Aug 6th, 2019 07:19 AM

Good point, suze.

baldone Aug 6th, 2019 02:02 PM

How long do you want a ziplock bag to last? 10 trips? 20 trips? 30 trips enough?
Quote
I want it to last a long time. Forever would ideal. So I don't use them. We don't travel like Crellston, but we're often on the road at least once a month, sometimes more. It may be for just a night or 2. So I could easily figure on 20 trips a year. But if I said 30, you'd figure a way to have the last word.

suze Aug 6th, 2019 02:11 PM

You can pick a fight on any topic. It really is a special talent.

Candypie Aug 6th, 2019 02:37 PM

Roll and fold
 
When an traveling I would roll or fold my clothes, I cram everything leaving home and fold or rol clothes tightly upon return so that all my shopping could hold in one suitcase. I found this video that as helped me with this by crazy ponda on YouTube.

I was able to take stuff for my staff, family and customers using these techniques.
Have fun.

baldone Aug 6th, 2019 04:29 PM

As far as plastic bags go, we just don't get them. Nearly all of our big box shopping; Comer, Soriana, Walmart is done in Queretaro where plastic bags are prohibited by law. And the local organic grocers where we do the rest of our buying have voluntarily eliminated them.

patandhank Aug 7th, 2019 06:53 AM

After all the comments on weight of packing cubes I decided to weigh the new set we just bought. Four packing cubes in various sizes - total weight empty = 11 oz! Worth it for me

mlgb Aug 7th, 2019 07:57 AM

Generally I fold pants and some tops such as a button down safari type shirt or rain jacket, and roll knits. It also depends on which bag I'm bringing. Using the bundling method doesn't work well for one or two night stays. I prefer the type of bag which has two equal sides, so that I can see what's what and can move the dirty stuff onto one side as I go. I've never understood the appeal of packing cubes but that may also depend on what type of bag one is using and travel style. For electronic chargers and cords I use a semi-rigid zip case (actually an old Air France amenity kit case). Carryon usually a daypack for the electronics and camera gear. Some kind of polypro folding tote or storage bag also.

Thanks to TSA I do take a few zip-lock bags for toiletries. Sometimes a gallon one for doing laundry in sink or shower with no stopper, and useful for backup gear/spill protection.. The dry toiletries go in a few different nonmatching lightweight zip bags. The brand name ones last pretty much forever.

I've been know to pack old tees and leave them behind rather than launder them. Especially what I wear on the 12-24 hour plane flight. Leaves room for a replacement/souvenir.

kja Aug 7th, 2019 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by patandhank (Post 16966523)
After all the comments on weight of packing cubes I decided to weigh the new set we just bought. Four packing cubes in various sizes - total weight empty = 11 oz! Worth it for me

lol ... once you wrote "11 oz"-- I was fully prepared to see you say, "NO WAY!!!"
To each his/her own!

Nelson Aug 7th, 2019 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by kja (Post 16966896)
lol ... once you wrote "11 oz"-- I was fully prepared to see you say, "NO WAY!!!"
To each his/her own!

My thought exactly. 11oz, that's nearly 3/4 pound! Seemed like a lot.

janisj Aug 7th, 2019 07:34 PM

>>lol ... once you wrote "11 oz"-- I was fully prepared to see you say, "NO WAY!!!"<<

>>My thought exactly. 11oz, that's nearly 3/4 pound! Seemed like a lot.<<

Ditto Ditto

Traveler_Nick Aug 7th, 2019 07:55 PM

Same here.

I have a 10KG carry on limit

Empty the carry on is 1.5kg
My laptop that I almost always carry is 1kg

That leaves me 7.5kg. 11oz are very valuable to me

janisj Aug 8th, 2019 07:28 AM

>>I have a 10KG carry on limit<<

Me too. My carry-on typically weighs between 9 and 11 kg (11kg is the absolute max and I seldom go that heavy). I do take some 'not totally necessary' gadgets like a small white noise machine, and a small travel flat iron -- but an 11oz cube/organizer doesn't add any value for me.

mlgb Aug 8th, 2019 07:57 AM

Speaking of red wine, from personal experience having a bottle in the trunk as you drive over a "sleeping policeman" is not a great idea. My backpack managed to contain most of it. There was a faint scent of red wine from the leakage into the trunk mat even after cleaning up.. Fortunately the officer operating a random drunk driving screen said she could tell that I was not DUI when she spoke to me, after I told her about the source of the scent in the car.

crellston, this happened in South Africa, coming back from West Coast NP to Cape Town....

Sassafrass Aug 9th, 2019 07:09 AM

Packing cubes all the way for me. I have not weighed them, but mine are super, super light, feel like nothing in my hand, no more than a plastic ziplock. I like being able to open the suitcase and get out exactly what I need. If we are staying someplace for a few days, I like being able to place the packing cubes on a shelf or in a drawer without actually unpacking anything. I hate things being folded up inside other things, so never pack that way.


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