Hi Anita La Bella & Elegante:<BR><BR>Are you for real?? Not all venezuelan women come from your planet you know.<BR>Some of us come from hard working families with not enough income to support our tailored clothing, plastic surgery or even higher education. Give me a break Ana.

Hey Irma (Hugo in disguise):<BR><BR>Who said anything of expensive tailored clothes. I mean good taste. When have you seen an untasteful dressed venezuelan woman, or man, for that matter? Venezuelans are well noted for the way we dress, or don't you dress smart? Don't you eat healthy? Don't you believe you have a good eduaction, and manners? <BR><BR>Do I work hard? Well yes I do. I come into my office at 7:30 - 1PM lunch, come back at 2PM - 7:30-8PM .<BR>Yes, I am from this planet as most hard working, good looking, venezuelan women from this dear country. <BR><BR>I hate it when we are put down, and mostly, when venezuelan women put themselves down.<BR><BR>Irma, sooooo sorry for you. <BR><BR>Ana<BR><BR><BR>

Ana:<BR><BR>First of all I would like to remind you that just because my opinion about our Venezuelan women differs from yours doesn't mean that we have to use vulgarity like name calling, please show your education by respecting other people's opinions and the respect will be mutual. And second I don't need your pitty I'm happy the way I'm and that's all it counts for me. <BR>I hope you have a very nice Holiday Season.<BR><BR>

Hey you two...how long is this bullfight going to last ?<BR><BR>I live in Caracas but I'm from Argentina.. and one funny thing is that venezuelan men who travel to Buenos Aires say that they love Argentinian women..I also hear very good comments from all the men who come from abroad about how beautiful Venezuelan women are..well, I think they are beautiful. And let me just say that the plastic surgery issue is pure rubbish..when I lived in Argentina the number of women AND men who had nose jobs was impressive..so it's not just Venezuelans who like to go under the knife..and you know what?? why don't you try going to California and check out the Plastic Surgery clinics there?? You'll be surprised..they're constantly full !! <BR>and one last thing...I personally had a nose job years ago..any regrets? absolutely not !! Am I shallow and vain or maybe an airhead? forget it !! I'm about to get my masters degree and speak four languages.....

Thank You 'Suzie' for showing us that it's not just Venesolanas that are self-possesed.<BR>It's been a long-time axiom in Latina America that Argentines are the most selfish, uptight and generally unlikeable people on the Continent, your post illustrates this all too well.<BR>See the daily headlines for more info.<BR>

Hugo,<BR><BR>Let's try to sort the issue out: what is being discussed here, beauty, shallowness, or what?<BR><BR>Let's stick with the concept, regardless citizenship (since it seems all agree that "Venezolana" are indeed, beautiful), of women ( or men) that are concerned ( I didn't say overly concerned) about their physical appearance. Let's assume someone doesn't like her ( or his) nose, so, she <BR>( or he) has it changed. Does it mean that this person is shallow? Or do you mean that intellectuals, or humanists, or whichever category you choose, worry only about literacy, books, and cultural issues? Aren't intellectuals human beings, and entitled to want to look better, or at least to have their physical characteristics changed and being more comfortable with who they are, what obviously includes the body they have?<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>S<BR><BR>PS: I'm not "Venozolana", but Brazilian.

Irma:<BR>Happy Holidays to you too. Name calling is not my agenda. I just have problems with generalizations and people putting themselves down.<BR><BR>Huguitos trollish remarks are meant to bring out the best in us, and trigger heated discussion on the matter.<BR><BR>Ana<BR>

And I repeat my original remarks<BR> <BR>"Yes they are relatively good-looking but for my taste rather 'over-done'.<BR>Too much makeup, 'big hair', and poor taste in clothes make many of them look like...well I'd better not say in a family forum.It's a look that appeals to<BR>certain types but not me.<BR>The best looking women in Latina America are found in Nicaragua IMO.<BR>Not just stunningly beautiful but also pleasant people easy to talk to and full of self-confidence."<BR><BR>The scrapping/cat fighting between the 2 self-appointed "Keepers of Venesolana Womanhood" here is a perfect example why any Guy who respects himself and others as well should steer clear of those Broads- 'nuf said!

If you need to see a "real" venezuelan women go to:<BR><BR>www.tachiraweb.com/especiales/aurazambrano/<BR><BR>If need any help call at 911.<BR><BR> ;-)<BR><BR>Vivan la mujeres venezolanas!!!!!!!<BR><BR>

Exactly the kind of made-up Bimbo I was talking about.<BR>Heckuva beak on her too-she'll have to pay some serious bolivars to get that thing trimmed down.<BR>I note that the lips have been 'done' as well as the thighs and breasts.<BR>Someone needs to mention the moustache to her-maybe Gerardo likes 'em with moustaches but most men don't.

Hey Hugo Chavez!!<BR>I have to agree with many of the people who responded to your comments. You are an asshole!!!! After insulting the women from Venezuela, you then went on the attack of the Argentinians. I can tell you, I am an American of Italian descent and I wouldn't even consider dating another American girl if my life depended on it! My present girlfriend is from Mendoza Argentina and she is the most fantastic woman I have met. I am a former male model, so (not bragging) I have been fortunate to have met my share of beautiful women. I have met several women from Venezuela and the only thing better than their outer beauty is their inner beauty. They are very sweet and sincere. You would hardy ever even get an beautiful American girl to talk to you unless you have plenty of money. I travel to Europe aften, especially Paris and I will say that there are many beautiful women all around the world, but it is the "attitude" that counts and the Latin women have the best attitudes! They are usually very faithfuland GREAT lovers. When the American women find all the American men switching to the Latin women, maybe then they'll get a clue.

I'm an American woman who lived in Caracas for four years. I lived the culture, but never "quite" became part of it from the feminine aspect.<BR>I say this because I can count on one hand a Venezolana that was what she presented herself to be.<BR>Are they family oriented and hard working? Certainly. Are they manipulative, cunning, gold diggers and two-faced? YES!!!!!! (Ladies who do not fit this profile, will please forgive my remarks). If you don't fit the profile, then you know what I'm saying is true.<BR>As for looks...so much emphasis is placed on a womans sexuality in Venezuela. Perhaps her sex appeal is a better word. I thought the mode of dress was a little too risque. I mean, God forbid you walk down the street and not get responses, (ssssssss) and remarks. <BR>It just doesn't seem to be about what you are, but what you appear to be.<BR>Yes, they are good mothers and keep a tidy house, but I've heard enough about loyalty and fidelity. Though, with much passion and conviction, they profess to be, there are VERY few Venezolanas that were actually faithful.<BR>Venezuela is a beatiful country, but men watch your wallet and your woman. Women, watch your man and other, women around you. If you have more than they do... your man is the prey!!!!! <BR>(And these women are sooooooooo convincing!!) I NEVER would've believed it had I not seen it myself.<BR>No conclusion came over-night. <BR>Jane

As one of the orignal respondents some time ago, I thought that I would weigh in with another response.<BR><BR>I ended up marrying the Maracucha that I was dating. I must say that there are very few things in life that end up better than you anticipate, but this is one of them.<BR><BR>I still think that she is one of the most beautiful women in the world. At the same time, she is a fantastic partner. As some other people have indicated, she tries to make certain that she and I eat healthily at all times. She is caring and has a positive attitude at all times. We laugh a lot. No, she has not had any plastic surgery. And no, she has not gotten fat, although we have both gained a few since marriage. And yes, she is educated (3 degrees-- nursing, computer engineering, and computer science). And yes, she is very sexy, but in a natural way, not in some kind of trashy way<BR><BR>She does not wear much makeup, and I don't find her vain, either. She does, however, have a good fashion sense, and she does like to dress well and look good. She manages to do this without spending much money at all, by the way.<BR><BR>Based on a sample size of one, I would say that the things that Ana and some others say are quite true. <BR><BR>Regarding the dress issue, yes, it is true that the Venezuelan women that I have seen may not dress &quot;appropriately&quot; per US standards. I submit to you that this is cultural, just watch Telemundo or Univision for a while. By their standards, women in the US dress like an old woman (vieja?) all of the time. This is simply a cultural difference, and my wife now knows how and when to adapt to a US understanding of &quot;appropriate dress&quot;. <BR><BR>While I don't want to denigrate any of the other posters (one in particular), I have to say that my own experience does not bear out any of the negative comments.<BR><BR>I would strongly recommend a Venezolana to anyone looking for beauty, intelligence, fidelity, homemaking, confidence, sense of humor, sexiness, work ethic, etc.<BR><BR>jna