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kerouac Jun 13th, 2020 08:24 AM

France has announced that it will open its borders to all of the EU/EEA as of June 15th. (But it will apply the 15-day quarantine to the UK as long as the UK is doing the same.)
It has additionally been said that it will open its borders to certain other countries as of July 1st. I'm sure they are working "feverishly" (ha ha -- pun) on that list at the moment.

Lois2 Jun 13th, 2020 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by kerouac (Post 17115877)
France has announced that it will open its borders to all of the EU/EEA as of June 15th. (But it will apply the 15-day quarantine to the UK as long as the UK is doing the same.)
It has additionally been said that it will open its borders to certain other countries as of July 1st. I'm sure they are working "feverishly" (ha ha -- pun) on that list at the moment.

I had noted that Macron was speaking on Sunday night about that...is this straight from him or in advance of his address tomorrow?

Lois2 Jun 13th, 2020 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by StCirq (Post 17115840)
You got it right, Lois. This fall is going to be murderous here in Europe, because people wanted to go to the beach, cafés, festivals, etc. . Just wait...I predict it's going to be awful. People are already turning their attention to other things - it's going to hit them like a sunami. By September or October.

Yes and then all those that postponed to come in Fall not accepting that was too soon will be rescheduling again. It will also be a "tsunami" in the US. I think the wise approach would have been to keep people in at least their own country for this year but the economics of that do not work for most governments. This will end up being much more economically devastating. But just an amateur ....staying home this year....observer. Hope we are wrong.

janisj Jun 13th, 2020 09:58 AM

"It will also be a "tsunami" in the US."

No one -- literally no one, has any idea if it will be worse, much worse, about the same, totally gone, prove to be seasonal, whatever. Why not wait til this Fall/Winter and see what is ACTUALLY happening . . . just a thought.

Lois2 Jun 13th, 2020 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 17115917)
"It will also be a "tsunami" in the US."

No one -- literally no one, has any idea if it will be worse, much worse, about the same, totally gone, prove to be seasonal, whatever. Why not wait til this Fall/Winter and see what is ACTUALLY happening . . . just a thought.

I will qualify that by saying it has the potential to be a "tsunami" and yes of course no one knows for sure. I did qualify my opinion as being only amateur as are all opinions on here.

janisj Jun 13th, 2020 11:09 AM

You did qualify your post and I should have acknowledged that. Most posters don't -- they just 'know' what the situation will be . . . I'd love to have their crystal balls :)

Lois2 Jun 13th, 2020 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 17115947)
You did qualify your post and I should have acknowledged that. Most posters don't -- they just 'know' what the situation will be . . . I'd love to have their crystal balls :)

I too would love the crystal ball to know....I hate so much uncertainty and for the first time that I can remember really not in a position to plan any travel!

cheska15 Jun 13th, 2020 11:52 PM

Australia has extended the travel ban until September 17, and maybe extended after that. Doesn’t matter what countries open up to non Schengen visitors, it is unlikely that Aussies will be visiting Europe this year.

Hambagahle Jun 14th, 2020 11:09 PM

I heard on the local (Swiss) radio today that two flights of German tourists will leave for Palma this weekend in an "experimental" programme. They will have a week at a hotel in Mallorca, will not be allowed to leave the hotel grounds and will be monitored. Apparently there was no shortage of applicants for these flights! (as one would imagine). Spanish borders open, for Schengen residents anyway, on Saturday. Swiss borders opened this morning for French, German, Austrian and Italian visitors.

neckervd Jun 15th, 2020 12:40 AM

Swiss borders are now open for all EU and EFTA citizens, even for those from Lombardy with some 1600 new infections every week.

Lois2 Jun 15th, 2020 05:38 AM

Seems that Portugal is open to everyone?

kerouac Jun 15th, 2020 05:57 AM

Not to Spain.

mlgb Jun 15th, 2020 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by Lois2 (Post 17116488)
Seems that Portugal is open to everyone?

There is a list of countries with significant Portuguese-speaking populations, from outside Schengen, providing you can get a flight. It seems that there will be wider opening and more flights from July 1. Not really "everyone".

Some info here

https://pt.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/

MaskonTravel Jun 15th, 2020 07:39 PM

Now Italy has opened its borders to all tourists
 
Italy opened its borders on Juny 3, domestic tourism is already beginning in the country, and I hope that international tourism will be soon

menachem Jun 15th, 2020 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 17115917)
"It will also be a "tsunami" in the US."

No one -- literally no one, has any idea if it will be worse, much worse, about the same, totally gone, prove to be seasonal, whatever. Why not wait til this Fall/Winter and see what is ACTUALLY happening . . . just a thought.

If our governments do that, it's too late. I hope you realize that.
Also, the 1918 flue pandemic was deadlier in its second wave, precisely because restrictive measures couldn't be reimposed once they were lifted.

But yeah, let's wait and see. Now would be the time to strive for maximum containment, which could be done without imposing lockdowns. Universal mask wearing would already bring R0 below 1.

janisj Jun 15th, 2020 08:44 PM

Oh stop it - how many threads are you trying to kill??

You don't know, I don't know, NOBODY bloody well knows. So give it a rest . . .

Hambagahle Jun 15th, 2020 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by menachem (Post 17116835)
If our governments do that, it's too late. I hope you realize that.
Also, the 1918 flue pandemic was deadlier in its second wave, precisely because restrictive measures couldn't be reimposed once they were lifted.

But yeah, let's wait and see. Now would be the time to strive for maximum containment, which could be done without imposing lockdowns. Universal mask wearing would already bring R0 below 1.

The latter is simply not true. Wearing a mask has NEVER been a requirement in Switzerland aside from visits to a hairdresser, pedicure etc. It is recommended (not required) that a mask be worn on CROWDED public transport. And our "R-factor" is well under 1.
As of yesterday it is .84 in fact.

neckervd Jun 16th, 2020 01:22 AM

The fact that the Swiss Federal Office for Public Health obviously hates masks is not a proof for the statement that masks are useless.

wnappier Jun 16th, 2020 06:31 AM

Or not hit them at all. Because it is, after all, the flu.

wnappier Jun 16th, 2020 06:32 AM

No, but many of the other "experts" say they are useless. They have become a fashion statement to many.


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