Trump apparently said recently that they will look at easing travel restrictions from Europe.

He's going to do whatever he can to boost the economy, including taking in tourists from other countries.

Thanks, Heimdall, I appreciate this. I had assumed this would be the case, and I would also imagine travel insurance would probably not be active, but I have no proof.

scb11 - I haven’t seen any comments yet about the US easing travel restrictions, but I am not surprised if that’s true. .

Here's another article to add to the confusion: https://www.france24.com/en/20200605...after-covid-19

There is also the possibility that all of the maskless and undistanced demonstrations all across Europe these past few days could blow up in our faces in two weeks.

Portugal resumed biweekly nonstops between Newark and Lisbon. AFAIK, there is no quarantine requirement for the mainland. Masks are generally required.

There's a WaPo article noting that EU countries have opened up businesses since about early to mid May and are not seeing spikes, at least not yet. They said a hospital in Cremona was expecting more patients but have started taking down makeshift ICU beds.

Through at least the summer, the hope is that there will be no more than localized hot spots, as they've found that opening some schools and restaurants haven't led to increases in case. But large-scale events are still prohibited.

People may have permanently adopted hand washing and wearing of masks. Other behavioral changes, supposedly while parks and outdoor dining are full, indoor tables are not.

Italy ICU patients have dropped from 4000 at peak to 400 and has been dropping every day in May. In Germany, contact tracing teams are idle. In Belgium, hospitals are emptying.

Experts still are not ruling out a second wave in the winter.

Nobody is claiming victory though. If Europe does well in the summer, it could still be the case that people drop their guard, priming up a big second wave in the fall/winter.

France had small uptakes but is having around 1000 cases per day vs. tens of thousands of cases in March. There have been outbreaks, like one linked to a funeral in Molise, Italy, clusters in Spain linked to parties and outbreaks in Germany from indoor gatherings and meat packing plants. There have also been clusters from parties, someone opening a hookah bar against guidelines and various church services including those where people were singing choir without masks.

Germany is even confident of avoiding a second wave because it has built up contact tracing capacity.

Very few people here in Switzerland wear masks. Our Federal Council has never required them as a general matter. They are simply recommended when one is in a crowded situation - on a train for example - but are only required when there is close person to person contact such as at the hairdresser. In fact in a Zürich paper this morning there was an article stating that the Federal Government now has a stock of millions and millions of masks and doesn't know what to do with it!! I think since mid March I have worn a mask four times...

On 15 June the Swiss borders will open (all of Schengen is to re-open its borders) but as far as I can see only to residents of those countries. Not to tourists from outside the Schengen area with the exception of those coming from the UK and Ireland.

Only 13 deaths by coronovirus in France yesterday. That's the lowest number since mid-March.

"In fact in a Zürich paper this morning there was an article stating that the Federal Government now has a stock of millions and millions of masks and doesn't know what to do with it!!"

I read that too. In fact, the total masks reserve in Switzerland corresponds to 30 masks per citizen.

kerouac I hope the downhill trend continues and that the people, and the economy, recover as quickly as possible.

"There have been outbreaks, like one linked to a funeral in Molise, Italy, clusters in Spain linked to parties and outbreaks in Germany from indoor gatherings and meat packing plants"

I'm rather worried about areas with coninuously high new infection rates like
Lombardy: 150 - 400 new infections: every day (last week)
Porto area: about 200 new infections: every day (last week)
Belgium: about 150 new infections: every day (last week)
Southern half of the Netherlands
Madrid and Cataluna
England

In the southern part of the Netherlands, the area most affected in the country, there are mink farms where the animals have corona. They have tested cats on these farms, and several turned out to have it as well - or they had it recently.
The authorities say that there is little risk for humans, but how do they know?

I am also holding my breath for a spike in two weeks time, after the demonstrations in cities here.

NZ
 

I imagine New Zealand will be opening up as they haven't had any new cases of Corona in a few weeks. That's what I'm waiting on.

News Flash: Covid 19 has a .26% mortality rate. A quarter of a percent. Most of those in the .26 % are in very ill health to start with.

Live your life as you wish. Don't tell me how to live mine.

Well, then don't use my health system, ever.

Please give a link to your discovery, though.

Which is why they had all of the Covid 19.

That is a reason for them NOT to open up. They sacrificed and now they're good while much of the rest of the world didn't and isn't.

The scientific principles of a quarantine to prevent viral transmission are apparently still not understood... Someone needs to write the "Pandemic for Dummies" book.

I believe 1 or 2 workers were infected too. Also we've had spreading clusters in meat processing plants, and a few schools are postponing opening further in June due to spreading clusters in primary schools.

I don't think the BLM protests will have much influence on infectiions: indoor situations have far more potentiial to turn into spreading clusters.

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Might be referring to this:
https://www.conservativereview.com/n...e-coronavirus/