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Where2Travel Jan 8th, 2006 11:42 PM

What makes you think of England?
 
According to a new project it's tea and Alice in Wonderland:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4592476.stm

seahatch Jan 8th, 2006 11:55 PM

Was going to reply but do you mean England or Great Britain ?

Kate Jan 9th, 2006 12:13 AM

well the article's about england so I think we can safely leave the Celts out.

I'll start...

David Beckham

hsv Jan 9th, 2006 12:26 AM

- The National Football Team
- The National Anthem
- Green Leather Lounge Chairs
- Sportsmanship and Fairness
- Understatement
- Shoes
- Barbour Wax Jackets
- Harris Tweed
- Sunburn
- Left Lane Traffic
- Pubs
- Humour

et al.

Tallulah Jan 9th, 2006 12:44 AM

Umbrellas
Queues
Satire
Scrumpy
Village cricket
Deckchairs

nona1 Jan 9th, 2006 02:22 AM

Chavs

tod Jan 9th, 2006 02:30 AM

The patchwork fields in the country.

londonengland Jan 9th, 2006 02:43 AM

On the positive side

Steak and Kidney pie
Real ale
Fish and Chips
Tea
Democracy
Literature - Shakespeare, Dickens
Tolerance
Willing to absorb the best of other cultures
Red buses

On the negative side

Binge drinking
Growing lack of respect of elders
Hoodies
The inability to put litter in dustbins
House prices

david_west Jan 9th, 2006 04:04 AM

Positives:

Foxhunting
Monarchy (President Blair anyone?)
The Countryside
The scenery
Pubs
Proper beer and also gin and scotch.
Queuing
The food (yes really)
Marmite
Cricket (especially cricket played by people like me who are hopeless at it)
NHS
Armed Forces
Unarmed police
Unarmed populace
Football and the fact that we invented almost all the global games
The language and the constant reinvention thereof
Darts on the telly
The London Eye

Negatives:

The general crappiness of the yoof of today
The decline of manners (see above)
Precott’s desire to build over every playing field in SE England
Obsession with house prices
The Daily Mail
The Guardian
The current government’s contempt for Parliament and the electorate
The general poniness of public services
The Railways
Not saving Concord
Not building a new royal yacht
Shirley Williams
Arsenal Football Club.

ira Jan 9th, 2006 04:07 AM

My Lady Wife tells me that whenever we have sex, she closes her eyes, lies back and thinks of England.

((I))

Tallulah Jan 9th, 2006 04:15 AM

David!!!!!!

Arsenal? A negative?

Cheeky sod!

Kate Jan 9th, 2006 04:31 AM

I think SOME people on this thread are getting 'what makes you think of England' mixed up with what you like/dislike about England. Different subject.

Ira's answer, however, is valid.

Mi image is of a true country of contrasts:

green rolling fields
60s housing estates, grey and dirty

Agatha Christie and Jane Austen
indie music

stag and hen nights
church weddings

high fashion
poor dress sense

Rolls Royce
white van man

tabloids
The BBC

politeness
agression

Wimbledon
Henman

Robespierre Jan 9th, 2006 04:32 AM

Matthew Arnold's <i>Dover Beach</i>.

Mucky Jan 9th, 2006 04:36 AM

Fat 45 year old blokes in Football shirts...yuk

USNR Jan 9th, 2006 04:37 AM

A smell of bacon as you enter homes.
Toast cooling on little silver racks.
People who should see a dentist.
Extremely high prices.
Friendly conversations.
So-so food.
Worn carpeting.
Creaking staircases.
Vague directions to anywhere.
Robust but obscure humor.
A general tired shabbiness.
The smell of peat smoke in Ireland.
Tea with scones and jam.
Lazy public servants.
Whining, whining, whining.

flanneruk Jan 9th, 2006 05:02 AM

Let's remind the confused about the rules of this game.

It's about England. It has nothing at all to do the neigbouring provinces.Or Ireland.

Now the one thing that summarises us instantly is our most admirable quality: scepticism.

And the one thing that summarises most perfectly all that's gone wrong in the past 60 years is the nomination for English icon by Terence Conran (an average designer in the late 50s, a sharp retailer for a few years in the 60s, a lousy one for the next 20 years as he kept trying to sell us all the same flokati rugs, and now operator of the most ill-mannered restaurant chain in London):

The Royal Festival Hall.

starspinners Jan 9th, 2006 05:07 AM

What makes me think of England:

Floris fragrances
Peter Pan
an electric water kettle
hedgerows

SuzieC Jan 9th, 2006 06:12 AM

Music.

Daisy54 Jan 9th, 2006 06:45 AM

Scones!

degas Jan 9th, 2006 07:13 AM

Indian Restaurants.

david_west Jan 9th, 2006 07:27 AM

Plastic beer glasses with wasps in

The smell of cut grass

Leather on willow.

The sound of a Merlin engine

The smell of linseed oil

The smell of bacon sandwiches.

The hot dog vans outside White Hart Lane (you must never eat the hot-dogs but the frying onions is a nice smell on a cold winters night)

Bovril

Brass band music (but not the oompah kind)

Cider (possibly in a plastic glass with a wasp in it).

Darts

Morris Dancing (foreigners: Don’t ask)

Men dressed as women for comic effect

People not taking themselves too seriously

MissPrism Jan 9th, 2006 07:29 AM

It's actually about icons as in images
see
http://www.icons.org.uk/
so smells don't count.


oldie Jan 9th, 2006 07:33 AM

It's also not an invitation for lazy Americans to send in tired cliches about the UK

degas Jan 9th, 2006 07:35 AM

oldie, can americans who are not lazy send in active cliches about the UK?

david_west Jan 9th, 2006 07:36 AM

Actually that thread about the rules of english behaviour pretty much covered all the relevant ground.

MissPrism Jan 9th, 2006 07:39 AM

Wasn't there an American film producer who was told that a script was full of old cliches.

&quot;Ok&quot;, he said. &quot;Go out and get me some new cliches&quot;

TorontoSteven Jan 9th, 2006 07:59 AM

As a Canadian,
1. watching the Queen accept flowers from a little girl,
2. a proper butcher wearing the proper hat,
3. warmish beer,
4. women who wear hats in Church.

JudyC Jan 9th, 2006 08:19 AM

gardens

P_M Jan 9th, 2006 08:46 AM

Scones with a huge blob of clotted cream. :-)

Snoopy Jan 9th, 2006 09:15 AM

I like the goofy answers that people have given that presumably they must think about in order to think of England (&quot;. . .real ale&quot;) OR they are actually in England and they see them (&quot;. . . the Scenery&quot;)

-- Music to the Brit-coms on public television and the theme from Thames Productions

-- Two-lane blacktops in wooded areas

-- Bentleys

-- Older men walking small dogs

-- Crooked yellow teeth (it may make some of you FEEL better to think that this is a 'tired cliche about the UK')

-- long-sleeved soccer (yes, I know) jerseys

-- a plain, pint glass of beer without a head

-- BP gas stations

-- cloudy, cool, wet days

kmowatt Jan 9th, 2006 09:17 AM

red telephone boxes

sheila Jan 9th, 2006 09:25 AM

I thought, when I heard this, this morning, it wasn't so much &quot;what makes you think of England?&quot; as &quot;what does England make you think of?&quot;

And I'd better not answer that:)

cocofromdijon Jan 9th, 2006 09:25 AM

Top of the pops!((8)) (we have a pale copy in france called the same)

cmt Jan 9th, 2006 09:35 AM

&quot;Lazy American&quot; reporting here....


monarchy
common law
Shakespeare
many many novels
much poetry
precise language
books, in general
the &quot;accent&quot;
flowers
well loved dogs
appreciation for pets, in general (I read too much J. Herriot many yrs ago?)
cottage gardens
good tea
bad food
Magna Carta
good manners
restraint, or stereotype of restraint in speech
excess alcohol drinking
humor (but clashes with another stereotype of stuffiness)
stereotype of appreciation for eccentricity (clashing with stereotype of conformity)
orderliness (lines, etc.)
mystery movies with rain scenes
traditional Christmas
sweet bucolic scenes
wartime courage of residents


willit Jan 9th, 2006 09:58 AM

When I lived away from the UK, the one thing that made me think of England more than any other, was Test Match Special.

This is a rather eccentric program that provides commentry on Cricket test matches , but combines the cricketing theme with a great number of eccentric characters.

Otherwise I would agree with most of David's list - Except to put Fox hunting in the negative section (But if you see a picture of a hunt, where else most people associate such an activity but England- and I do know they hunt in Celtic regions as well).

lobo_mau Jan 9th, 2006 10:10 AM

Jose Mourinho

LCBoniti Jan 9th, 2006 10:29 AM

Watching my &quot;Secret Agent&quot; and &quot;Prisoner&quot; DVD's!

Yes, I know Patrick McGoohan is a Scot. :-) Nevertheless, these shows remind me of those crazy 60's when anything British (esp. London or Liverpool) was exceptionally groovy!

walkinaround Jan 9th, 2006 11:52 AM

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
to send in tired cliches about the UK
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

isn't an &quot;icon&quot; a cliche by definition?
&quot;tired cliche&quot; is redundant.

ira Jan 9th, 2006 11:58 AM

&gt;&quot;tired cliche&quot; is redundant.&lt;

Hmmmmmm. When does a fresh, new turn of phrase become a cliche', and when does a cliche' become tired?

If a cliche' is still in constant use, is it tired?

((I))

thebugsbittenme Jan 9th, 2006 12:01 PM

- Roundabouts
- Pay and Display (in the Lake District we did not &quot;Pay&quot; enough, &quot;Displayed&quot; too long and it ended up costing us 30 pounds!)


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