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Twist Sep 25th, 2017 06:05 PM

What kind of tea can i choose in afternoon tea in France?
 
I travel in France first time and I don't know how to choose. Would you tell me?

bilboburgler Sep 25th, 2017 10:19 PM

It depends, many cafes have a surprisingly large selection though often from tea companies of an "interesting" nature. The French serve tea a strange way they normally give you a glass (or cup) of hot water and a small bag containing a bag of tea with perhaps a piece of lemon and sometimes a tiny jug of milk, they may ask about the milk or the lemon. The teas are either selected for you or you get shown a tray of various teas.

My safe favorite

Earl Grey is pretty much everywhere, it is normally pretty good Earl Grey as long as long as it is served in a hermetically sealed bag or container (in today's polluting world it will normally be in a plastic bag, but hey who cares about the world)

English Breakfast tea, a large leafed black tea often good if you like that

Green tea,

Various fruit teas

BTW afternoon tea is not a French meal or concept. There is no "it's 4 it's tea time" mentality.

StCirq Sep 26th, 2017 02:43 AM

Afternoon tea is not French, though any place that serves beverages will be happy to sell you a pot of tea. Sometimes there`s a selection, sometimes not. If you want a pastry or something to go with it, you order that separately. Just don`t expect tea sandwiches or scones with clotted cream.

massimop Sep 26th, 2017 03:22 AM

If you particularly like tea and are going to Paris, you can find a few Japanese tea houses, and some that are British themed, as well as "salons de the" that serve French pastries

https://independenttravelcats.com/fr...oon-tea-paris/

You will also find in supermarkets, health food stores and gourmet shops the wide selections of imported teas to buy in packages that you would find in other capital cities in the world.

massimop Sep 26th, 2017 03:24 AM

By the way, I think the most characteristically "French" tea is the high-end
Mariage Frères label, and there are several address in Paris where you can sample it (they are listed in the link that I posted)

nini Sep 26th, 2017 05:56 AM

It is hard to go wrong with Darjeeling and it is about as common as Earl Grey.

bvlenci Sep 26th, 2017 06:56 AM

A cup of hot water and a tea bag on the side is what you get in Italy, too. I've totally stopped ordering tea out, because you can't get a decent cup of tea out of tepid (by the time it reaches you) water. I order what Italians know how to make: coffee.

bilboburgler Sep 26th, 2017 07:55 AM

In both France and Italy you can get a teapot. It takes time and you may have to change city but it is possible. Then you have to explain about putting the water in last.....

massimop Sep 26th, 2017 07:58 AM

But you can actually get wonderful tea in tea salons in Paris. It's not like Italy, where I can't recall ever seeing a dedicated tea salon (although they might have existed in Venice or Florence at some time, or Rome or parts of Liguria. Maybe even now you could find one in Milan especially a Japanese tea shop.)

There are many people in Paris -- native Parisians -- who patronize tea salons. They are not just for tourists. Mariage Freres is a favorite brand of tea of many people beyond France.

I am not sure that the French make tea to the liking of British travelers, but Brits are not the only tea drinkers in Europe.

I also wanted to add that there are some places in Paris serving sweet teas in the fashion of northern Africa or parts of the Middle East.

Kay_P Sep 26th, 2017 08:36 AM

I am a tea drinker. I visit Paris whenever I can. Yes, you will find many places to serve you a tepid cup of tea. However, there are places to have a wonderful pot of tea.

Laduree, Angelina's, Marriage Freres all serve lovely tea.

For reviews of afternoon tea in higher end hotels see this blog:

https://www.ohhowcivilized.com/?s=paris+

I had a great tea experience on the Ile St. Louis last summer. Cannot remember the name. Served beautiful pastries. Small shop.

massimop Sep 26th, 2017 11:38 AM

Kay_P

It might have been La Charlotte de l’isle. Long time established

http://www.lacharlottedelisle.fr/

Underhill Sep 26th, 2017 01:35 PM

All over France you will find salons de thé, tea salons, which serve light meals and assorted pastries. There are good teas on offer; my favorite is Assam.

MmePerdu Sep 26th, 2017 02:19 PM

I'm a tea drinker and the Mariage Freres Marais location is THE place for a haute French tea experience. That's not to say it's my favorite, it isn't, but if you want the best they'll be the first to tell you, it's there. Once was enough for me but it is fun once.

https://www.mariagefreres.com/UK/res...g_tibourg.html

Twist Sep 26th, 2017 10:21 PM

I do not like tea bags, I like loose tea.

bilboburgler Sep 26th, 2017 10:48 PM

Twist, good luck with that :-)

StCirq Sep 27th, 2017 01:49 AM

Yes, really. I would never go to France with fussy tea habits.

bvlenci Sep 27th, 2017 02:40 AM

There is actually a tea room in the Officina Farmaceutica Santa Maria Novella, in Florence, and I actually had a good pot of tea there. It's a bit far to go for my cuppa.

Loose tea is very hard to find in Italy, but it's getting hard to find in the UK and Ireland, too. The last time I was in Ireland, I actually bought tea bags in a supermarket, because they had no loose tea.

I can get a good Ceylon tea, loose, at an organic grocery about 15 miles from where I live, but I often make due with tea bags.

<i> In both France and Italy you can get a teapot. It takes time and you may have to change city but it is possible. Then you have to explain about putting the water in last..... </i>

Most of the time in Italy, even at places that fancy themselves tea rooms, the pot arrives at the table empty. The water (tepid) is in a little metal container on the side. They fill it from the little nozzle they use to steam the milk for cappuccino, so it doesn't even start out hot enough.

I once saw an Italian lady make tea in a pot, for six people... with one tea bag.

massimop Sep 27th, 2017 02:58 AM

Twist,

You probably should clarify all that you are looking for and where you are going. Half the people answering you want to mock you for wanting to enjoy tea in France. The other half want to help you find it, because such enjoyment certainly exists, but you might need to e-mail places to confirm they offer loose tea, not just tea in bags.

The links that have been posted here show many high-end afternoon tea venues in Paris (if you are going, including formal afternoon teas with clotted cream or champagne service, or live music. Other tea venues are not in that style, but are dedicated to the enjoyment of tea as a beverage and even as a ritual.

Since the afternoon tea venues in Paris are generally expensive, I highly recommend e-mailing them directly if it is not clear from their websites as to exactly how they are serving their tea.

It is true that many of us no longer go to France with high expectations for anything related to food or drink, perhaps with the exception of wine, and some people are apparently totally unaware of the high standards many French have for tea drinking. But if you use the links posted I think you will come out ahead.

bilboburgler Sep 27th, 2017 03:08 AM

Just to be clear I do not want to mock Twist at all and do not believe I have. I do want to be clear about what to expect in the very vast majority of France.

Real tea (not bags) continues to be sold in Yorkshire. ;-)

massimop Sep 27th, 2017 03:50 AM

One more for Twist (and Kay_P)

http://theteamaestro.blogspot.it/201...-tea-time.html

bvh Sep 27th, 2017 04:04 AM

And then you have someone talking about tea in Italy and the OP never mentioned Italy.

bilboburgler Sep 27th, 2017 04:21 AM

Again Massi I am sad that you decide to make an open debate personal. I'll leave it at that. Your input is invaluable in many subjects.

To Twist, yes you will get a good cup of tea but with a tea bag and hotish cup of water in which you can dunk it (generally it will be fine), if you need tea and tea pot rather than bags you are out of luck in the vast majority of cafes you walk into.

stache Sep 27th, 2017 05:58 AM

Bring your own tea.

Tulips Sep 27th, 2017 06:09 AM

There's Kusmi tea - but I don't think you can drink tea there. So buy loose tea there to take to restaurants.

bvh Sep 27th, 2017 06:14 AM

Kusmi Tea has a cafe on the Champs-Elysées.

annhig Sep 27th, 2017 08:47 AM

A cup of hot water and a tea bag on the side is what you get in Italy, too. I've totally stopped ordering tea out, because you can't get a decent cup of tea out of tepid (by the time it reaches you) water. I order what Italians know how to make: coffee.>>

bvl, I agree with you there with the honourable exception of a tea shop I once came across in Venice which did an excellent cuppa.

One of the problems for Brits or for those with a taste for British style tea is that the tea bags they use [and they always are tea bags] have different tea in them to those available in the UK. Frankly they make, for me, a rather insipid brew, but I appreciate that they are catering for local tastes.

Twist - whether you will find the Afternoon tea experience available in Paris rather depends on what you are looking for. If it is Earl Grey or similar with nice cakes and pastries then you will probably be very happy. If OTOH you want a good strong cuppa with which you might be served in Bilbo's home county of Yorkshire, you're probably going to be disappointed.

WeisserTee Sep 27th, 2017 11:18 AM

My fav tea spot in Paris is the beautiful Gobelins salon cafe in the Plaza Athenee hotel on Ave Montaigne. Excellent afternoon tea, elegantly served. I always get darjeeling Margaret's Hope, but there are several choices. Not a teabag in sight. Next is Cafe de l'Esplanade, the Costes cafe by Les Invalides. Mariage Freres teas. Not a full afternoon tea service but you can certainly order a pastry if you wish.

WeisserTee Sep 27th, 2017 11:23 AM

FWIW, we regularly drink Mariage Freres' white tea at home and find nothing insipid about it.

Underhill Sep 27th, 2017 12:22 PM

My DH's favorite Mariage Frères tea is French Breakast; I prefer Wedding Imperial. We had a good French version of afternoon tea at Le Pain Quotidien, the one on the Place du Marché St-Honoré. Fine breakfasts there as well.

annhig Sep 27th, 2017 12:49 PM

WT/Underhill - I don't know Mariage Frères teas at all. if they provide loose tea then IME it is more likely to be stronger than the type usually found in tea bags outside the UK.

bvh Sep 28th, 2017 07:06 AM

It's hard to imagine that anyone with interest in Paris wouldn't know Mariage Frères' gourmet teas. They were founded in 1854. It's like not knowing Berthillon ice cream, or Pierre Hermé chocolates, or Eric Kayser baguettes, or Ladurée macarons.

I don't recall ever seeing a tea bag at Mariage Frères. It's loose tea sold by weight.

MmePerdu Sep 28th, 2017 07:29 AM

Mariage Frères teas do, indeed, come in teabags. In muslin bags as many upscale teas, but bags nonetheless.

https://www.mariagefreres.com/UK/1-t...n_tea_bag.html

bvh Sep 28th, 2017 08:06 AM

"Mariage Frères teas do, indeed, come in teabags."

Why wouldn't they? Just because I don't use tea bags doesn't mean there aren't millions of tea lovers who do.

MmePerdu Sep 28th, 2017 09:23 AM

Heavy sigh.

annhig Sep 28th, 2017 11:54 AM

It's hard to imagine that anyone with interest in Paris wouldn't know Mariage Frères' gourmet teas. They were founded in 1854. It's like not knowing Berthillon ice cream, or Pierre Hermé chocolates, or Eric Kayser baguettes, or Ladurée macarons>>.

lol, just lol.

It's hard to imagine that anyone would think that it is necessary to know about the tea that is available there in order to be interested in Paris.

FuryFluffy Sep 28th, 2017 12:07 PM

>> It's hard to imagine that anyone with interest in Paris wouldn't know Mariage Frères' gourmet teas. They were founded in 1854. It's like not knowing Berthillon ice cream, or Pierre Hermé chocolates, or Eric Kayser baguettes, or Ladurée macarons.

Nonsense. Unless people think that Paris is nothing more than a bunch of brand names. Do you write tourism book, bvh? If you do, I'd like to buy some, just for its entertainment value.

MmePerdu Sep 28th, 2017 12:08 PM

I thought it was pretty lol myself, annhig. Most of those things are of no interest to me in the "brand name" way, so though I've lived and visited many times over 50 years it apparently doesn't equal "interest". Fascinating in it's perversity.

Who is this person? Is it a new screen name for an old ______?

bvlenci Sep 29th, 2017 04:35 AM

Annhig, I'm a person who considers Darjeeling tea to be lightweight, and Earl Grey contaminated with bergamot.

bvlenci Sep 29th, 2017 04:43 AM

<i> Who is this person? Is it a new screen name for an old ______?

</i>

Or maybe a sock puppet.

kerouac Sep 29th, 2017 07:42 AM

I am not much of a tea drinker, but I would like to know what horrible thing happens when tea has to filter through a bag, since apparently it must, considering some of the replies here.

Since I live in a neighborhood with both Indian and Chinese shops, it is no problem at all to buy loose tea or to have it served in the local ethnic restaurants. Nevertheless, even they sell a lot of their tea in bags, muslin pouches or whatever and since I sort of consider them to be the experts, it looks to me more like an orange juice debate -- with pulp or without pulp.

Since on the rare occasions that I drink tea, I do prefer it to be strong, if I am using teabags, I just put in two of them.


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