Using US$ in Austira??
 

Leave for Austria on Monday...will be going to Salzburg and Vienna. Question for everybody, is it alright to tip taxi drivers and porters in US dollars? Or is that considered inappropriate or offensive in some way? Of course, considering how little the dollar is worth when compared to the Euro, I would pay more in US, but I was just thinking ahead since I'll be arriving with no Euros on hand. Any advice appreciated, thanks! Michele

You can get euro at the ATM at the airport. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I don't think Austrians would want dollars any more than a taxi driver here in US would want to be handed euro. They would lose money getting it exchanged into euro,for the transaction alone.

What on earth would an Austrian do with small quantities of dollars?

And how did you plan on paying the taxi? Not tipping, but paying.

In any country, getting into a taxi without the means to pay - in real money - is a criminal offence.

Do you seriously intend starting your holiday in prison?

I would find it annoying for someone to tip me in a foreign currency, and it probably doesn't give a good image -- you know, the whole idea of Americans thinking they run the world. Austria isn't some third world country with no hard currency of their own where they would be okay. I'm not Austrian, though, so don't know if it's possible they would not care at all. I think at the least it is certainly inappropriate.

There is not reason for it. You can get euro at the airport. I've been there, I know you can do it numerous ways. It never occurred to me to try to get into downtown Vienna from the airport without trying to get some local currency first, because I used it to pay the taxi driver.

Hi Michele12
the key is not to leave the airport with no local currency at hand.
Yes, it's inappropriate. Either get some from your home bank before you leave, or get some from an ATM or exchange desk at the airport.
Not only is the taxi driver not going to want to figure out an exchange rate for you, but he will lose on it again when he tries to exchange the dollars for euro at a bank.

I know some people think that waiters or porters or chambermaids will appreciate US dollars, but the reality is they have to take the dollars somewhere to exchange them, and then pay a commission on the transaction.
Especially painful on small amounts.

Agree with all of the above posts. Dollars are of no use to the taxi drivers and porters. They will have to pay high exchange fees to convert them into euros (doubt they would have anything leftover if we're talking about small amounts). Definitely get some euros either in advance or upon arrival at the airport.

Please, please don't.

It is incredibly easy -- Convert your US dollars into local currency at the airport. Or withdraw Euro directly from an ATM machine.

NO, don't plan to travel with U.S. dollars. Whether it is "inappropriate or offensive" might be a bit strong of language but it simply doesn't make sense.

Do Europeans arrive in American and plan to tip the cab drivers with pounds, Euro, Swiss franc, etc.??? Same thing.

I agree that you should never tip in dollars when you are in a hard currency environment, such as countries using the Euro or British pounds. It comes off as naive, at best; downright arrogant, at worst. Even in cases where a currency would not be considered "hard", tipping in dollars can just be a hassle for the person receiving them, since they have to take another step in the process to get something that is going to be useful to them. It is therefore inconsiderate and it detracts from the value of your gesture.

But the answer is not always such a slam-dunk when you are in countries operating with weaker currencies that do not trade well internationally. In those cases, it is appropriate to ask. You will find situations in which U.S. dollars are welcome, appreciated and sometimes even preferred. This can easily vary by the individual that you happen to be dealing with at the time.

For Austria, I found that a few cigarettes or a little chocolate are highly prized by the locals.

Of course, it's been a while since I was there last.

Ira, you sure they weren't stockings?
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I don't wiah to be harsh but US$ are not legal currency worldwide. It's tru there are a few (third-world) countries where locals accept US dollars because they (sort of ) hold their value. None of them is in Western Europe. The taxi driver will not take $US for the fare - nor for the tip (What do you think a New York cabbie would do if you tried to pay in Euros? Take you to a bank to get money from an ATM - with the meter runnng the whole time!)

You should probably do some searches above on various monetary issues to be sure you are really ready for your trip - frankly it sounds like you haven't thought this through yet.

While I was in London last week I noticed that donation boxes at many of the museums were filled with US dollars. I couldn't decide if it made Americans seem generous or arrogant. I donated using Pounds.

On another note, I discovered in a handful of change from a purchase that I had been given a 20 cent Euro coin instead of a 20 Pence coin. Is that common?

Actually I'm quite sure the Taxi driver can simply refuse to take your dollars and thus preventing you from paying. Which is illegal. Or possibly, the driver would be allowed to set his own exchange rate which could literally be anything ("I've heard the dollar is very low now...it must be approaching $1 for 0.01 € or something :)

Cobos

I've always agreed that it is "tacky" to say the least to try to use US currency in a foreign country, and I too have used the example of "what if a European tried to pay with euros here?" Oddly enough just a couple days ago a waiter friend of mine mentioned that a French couple in his restaurant paid with a credit card. When they left he found they had tipped him in euro -- a total of 12 individual one euro coins. Doug took them to his bank where they informed him they won't exchange foreign "coins" and he was complaining how he's stuck with them. But I've offered to buy them from him since I can always use them. But I am still shocked that someone would have done such a thing. Did they think they were doing him some sort of favor since the euro is worth more than the dollar?

Good move, Patrick. I sometimes pick up a few, incidental Euros from people who don't have any foreseeable use for them. But in the Istanbul airport earlier this week, the coffee shop wanted to charge me in U.S. dollars instead of allowing me to get rid of the last of my Turkish currency. Go figure.

I think the new Europe is not as gaa gaa eyed over US style dollars as the old Europe. Even Rumsfeld's "old Europe" including France and Germany have little illusions that the dollar is the world's strongest currency.

Americans, who labor under the mistaken idea that the dollar is still the world's foremost currency, need to wake up to some economic as well as political realities: There is a more powerful economic entity right now than the US, and it is called the European Economic Union.

I hate to break the news to you, but dollar dumping is an economic reality. And one reason the dollar is at such a low value right now is because few financial markets in Europe want them.

The dollar closed today at 1 € costing us $1.213. That is a slight improvement over three weeks ago, but still a big difference from the days when 1€ cost 88 US cents.

That is still a decline of 37.5%.
If the value of your $300,000 house had dropped to $187,500 you would probably be screaming bloody murder.

So would you as a taxi driver want to be paid in a currency that (a) had no local use, (b) had dropped greatly in value with only faint signs of recovery, (c) your country had gotten into a tariff war with the economic unit that circulated that currency, and (d) the nation issuing the currency was so far in debt that it will take many years to reduce it?

There are several web sites that right now list the US debt at $7,139,046,417,891.00

In case you think that is a Social Security number rum amok, let me assure you that it is not. And if the number of digits floors you, simply read it as 7 TRILLION dollars.

Every few months a question like this one pops up - and it makes me VERY sad every single time. I find it so absolutely unbelievable that some Americans still think this way!

No wonder we are sometimes painted with the broad "ugly American" brush . . . . .

We were on a European Cruise that ended in Harwich, England. When we disembarked we got into busses to transfer to London Heathrow.

Upon our arrival at Heathrow, the bus driver was unloading the luggage. I had no Pounds, but since he had handled the Misses Kitchen Sink, I handed him a $10 dollar bill. He looked at me with a sincere "Thank you very much." He knew what he was getting.

Now, he was probably used to that since he had driven for other cruise ships (cruise ships use $$$ as their standard currency).

Other than the above type of circumstance, I would agree to use local currency.

Michele12 -

As you've probably gathered from all the previous posts, you should use the currency of the country you're visiting.

There are a few exceptions however...

If you ever visit the Maldives, you'll find that US dollars are not only welcomed, but expected. You'll be charged for everything in US dollars and your tips will also be in dollars.

I had to look far and wide to find any Maldivian Rufiyaa, but I finally scored a few notes to keep as a souvenir.

I'm afraid that all of you misunderstood Michele12. She didn't ask if it is alright to tip in US dollars in AUSTRIA but in AUSTIRA! You can clearly read Austira in the headline of her posting. And as you well expericenced travelers should now, Austira is a country on the northwestsoutheast border of Schengen with no currency at all! They use shells instead and would be very very happy to see some real money. So go ahead and tip them to the extreme - they will be thankful!

Do they have kangaroos in Austira too?

>Ira, you sure they weren't stockings?<

Nylons were only for special services.

>...I had been given a 20 cent Euro coin instead of a 20 Pence coin. Is that common?<

It might not be common, but you lost about 40% on the exchange.

>There are several web sites that right now list the US debt at $7,139,046,417,891.00<

Which, to put it in perspective, is 57% of the annual GDP. Germany's national debt is now over 60% of its GDP, in violation of EU regulations.

PS, just love the precision of 13 significant figures. :)

This must be your first trip to Europe. Americans who have never travelled outside of North America always think that the US dollar is a universal currency, then they are shocked when they go overseas and the people there won't accept the US dollar. While it is true that there are some third world countries where they welcome the dollar, that's hardly the case in Austria. Get euros, and don't expect to use your dollars until you get home.

While I am disappointed that so many Americans still think this way, I must give you credit for asking the question instead of just going over there and getting mad when they don't take your dollars. I am ashamed to tell you that I have travelled in groups with a few Ugly Americans who complained constantly that the locals wanted euros instead of dollars. It was wise of you to ask first, that's what these boards are for. Have a great trip.

Ira - thanks for pointing out the exchange difference. I wonder if this is a new scam aimed at tourists. If he pulls that trick 20 times a day, that's 1.60 Pounds in his pocket. It would be 11.20 for the week, and 582.40 for the year. Hmmm.

I have an Austrian friend who has a t-shirt that asks (in English)"Please don't ask where are the kangaroos"

The reason why there are no kangaroos in Austira is that they traded them for Lipizzaner stallions. Perhaps a little tipping would help to collect the money needed to get those kangaroos back? Seems that Australia won't accept shells...

Perhaps President Klestil can trade some of his animal gifts for kangaroos.
The dogs won't bring much, but the horses and camels must be worth some kangaroos.

Molker,
seems the two of us share the same sense of humour! Your replies are great, thank you for making me laugh! Next time an American tourist will tip me in US$, I will spend that money for buying you a drink at the Reiss bar.

Can NEVER understand why some people want to take US dollars to tip in foreign lands. The only exception would be countries with currency controls. This seems like an extremely arrogant gesture to me.

Stop and think why so many airposts have a bin for charitable organizations in which to deposit small amounts of foregn currency...it is becuase the cost of conversion is higher that the value of the currency.

Message for Viennese:
Thank you for the kind words. If you refer to the Reiss Bar by Neuer Markt( I do not know any other) I hope that the next person is a big tipper. The dollar at todays exchange rate will not buy much there.
It is the only place for a Sekt Cocktail.
I enjoy your posts about Vienna,

It is a law in Austria that you can only use US dollars in restaurants that have a menu in English. You can use them in Vienna to tip the U-Bahn drivers as well. You could also go to McDonald's or Starbucks, I'm sure since they are US corporations they will gladly honor the sacred US currency. Above all, don't drink the water!

I just finished watching the Third Man for the umpteenth time. I have concluded that those Viennese sure crave American cigarettes, especially in the Russian sector. There is also a cottage industry in fake passports.

Yes we trade the above for a tour of the our sewers.

To my experience, glass pearls of various colors are a smash hit with the locals in those Old Europe countries! The taxi drivers will most likely be willing to kill for them.

Um - Michele12 starts all these threads and never comes back to ANY of them? I can understand being too embarrased to post back on this one. But she has gotten a TON of responses on all her other threads w/o so much as a peep to show she's even read any of them.

So, are you thinking this is a troll? To me, it doesn;t have the flavor. Or merely that Michele12 is ill-mannered? Or just very confused - doesn;t know how to use the board?

No, I personally don't think she's a troll. THIS thread would make one wonder for sure - but her other ones seem pretty straight forward. Time will tell whch she is -- A newbie confused about how to use the forum, Ill mannered, Or a troll . . . . .

I'm hoping for "newbie" . . . .