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nouran Apr 2nd, 2017 03:35 AM

UK visa holders
 
Which countries allow UK visa holders to enter it?
Like for example Montenegro allows UK visa holders to enter without any special visa!

ribeirasacra Apr 2nd, 2017 05:20 AM

nothing to do with your visa it is all about your passport.
What country has issued that?
And which counties do you wish to specifically want to enter.

hetismij2 Apr 2nd, 2017 05:32 AM

Actually ribeirasacra it is to do with the visa - Montengro allows holders of a Schengen, Irish, US or UK visa, or those with permanent residency in any of those, visa free entry for 30 days, regardless of nationality.

WoinParis Apr 2nd, 2017 05:38 AM

I hope nobody allows UK passport holders in EU.
UK voted Brexit, now they should stay away.
Or at least go to a lengthy and painful procedure like in the past to get a visa.
Ah, and costly.

annhig Apr 2nd, 2017 07:54 AM

bitter, WoinP? - actually so am I but I'd still like to come and visit you one day.

And so far as I know there was never a lengthy and painful visa procedure between the UK and Europe. The biggest problem was the pitifully small amount of money that we were allowed to take out of the UK - there used to be a special form in the back of the UK passport where they recorded how much currency you were taking with you; I think that the limit was £50 or the equivalent thereof, which was then raised to £100. This led at least in part to the popularity of the package holiday where you paid in sterling for all your transport, accommodation and food before you travelled, so that your currency could be spent on the thing that matters - cheap booze.

They were discussing the re-introduction of the old-style dark blue British passport this morning on the radio, but no-one mentioned the dreaded currency limits - hopefully those won't be coming back.

thursdaysd Apr 2nd, 2017 08:02 AM

I hope they are not going back to the SIZE and hardness of the old passports! Would definitely not fit in my money belt.

I remember the currency restrictions, but hadn't they been lifted before the UK joined the EU?

hetismij2 Apr 2nd, 2017 08:14 AM

I qualify as Wo's most hated person being a British/Dutch dual national ;).

It will be another eight years before I trade in my lovely burgundy EU British passport for something else, if I even bother.
Currency restrictions probably can't be a problem any more with ATMs on every corner. Taking boxes of cheap French booze back to the UK could be more of a problem, as could taking animals on holiday.

However we are getting way of topic here. The only way to know if your UK visa qualifies you for visa free travel to a particular country is to look at that country's visa rules.

annhig Apr 2nd, 2017 09:24 AM

I remember the currency restrictions, but hadn't they been lifted before the UK joined the EU?>>

I think that they had, thursdaysd, but not for that long - I can remember its still applying when my dad went abroad for business in the 1960s. But I was joking really - I can't see them trying to put that genie back in the bottle.

WoinParis Apr 2nd, 2017 09:46 AM

'bitter, WoinP? - actually so am I but I'd still like to come and visit you one day. '

Yes I am. Brits are among the people I love the most. And I am convinced Brexit was voted for the wrong reasons : these being that people vote for international topics with a very local reasoning.

So YES you are welcome Ann, I live close to Waterloo, everything is in English here : Wellington museum, Urqhuart street etc.

'I qualify as Wo's most hated person being a British/Dutch dual national ;).'

Nah. I am like every racist : I need to be able to say 'I have a xxx friend' In my case dutch friend would be you !
But you'd be wise to check me thoroughly... Never trust a Belgian if you are Dutch : true since 1830 and even before.

(just to be 2 min serious, I remember learning the political and economical aspects of the 'dutch domination' in Belgium after the Napoleonic wars and had to adhere with my teacher's opinion : we were really well treated and the Dutch launched a series of really good reforms and works in Belgium at the time - but shhh this message will self-destruct after reading).

thursdaysd Apr 2nd, 2017 09:50 AM

Turns out I have Exchange Control stamps from as late as 1975. Then I moved to the US. Don't know what happened after that but the passport issued by the UK consulate in 1980 still has a couple of pages for the entries. The one from 1990 doesn't.

mjdh1957 Apr 3rd, 2017 03:33 AM

I think the Blessed Margaret abolished exchange controls sometime after 1979. But then unlike her current replacement she was in favour of joining the EU. Surprising really given her general xenophobia.

I've got dual Irish/British nationality so will be giving up the British one and only using the Irish one in future. And I am seriously considering moving to Ireland

thursdaysd Apr 3rd, 2017 04:20 AM

Lucky you, mjdh1957. I have dual UK-US citizenship and have been thinking of moving back to the UK or Europe (probably France or Portugal).

BigRuss Apr 3rd, 2017 07:01 AM

<<I hope nobody allows UK passport holders in EU.
UK voted Brexit, now they should stay away. >>

I love how the continentals are anti-UK now. Of course, Woin would be a native German speaker, not French speaker, if not for the Brits . . .

Hooameye Apr 3rd, 2017 07:11 AM

"I love how the continentals are anti-UK now."

I've traveled in Europe since the mid 70's, they've always been anti-UK.

annhig Apr 3rd, 2017 08:13 AM

I've traveled in Europe since the mid 70's, they've always been anti-UK.>>

So have I and I have rarely encountered any antagonism towards me because of my nationality. or if I did, I didn't notice!

WoinParis Apr 3rd, 2017 09:33 AM

BigRuss - great answer. No surprise coming from you.

Who is anti brits or anti something ?
Somebody cannot say that brexit is a stupidity without automatically being anti Brit ?
By the same token I am anti US anti Turks anti Russian (but true if they are big).

And German is a nice language by the way. Now the fascists speak another language though.

PatrickLondon Apr 3rd, 2017 10:05 AM

>>I remember the currency restrictions, but hadn't they been lifted before the UK joined the EU?<<

They weren't really related to the European question: they were a function of the controlled exchange rates of the postwar Bretton Woods system.

Of course, there was a concern over the extent to which members of the European single market might try to manipulate the uncontrolled or floating rates that followed as a way of trying to get unfair trading advantage, which was one of the arguments for having first the ERM and then the common currency within the EU.

I'm keeping my grandfather's birth certificate in a safe place, by the way. He was born in Edinburgh. It might become important.

annhig Apr 3rd, 2017 12:19 PM

I'm keeping my grandfather's birth certificate in a safe place, by the way. He was born in Edinburgh. It might become important.>>

My granny was born in India. [so was my mum if it comes to that.]

will that help me?

WoinParis Apr 3rd, 2017 03:42 PM

All these guys whose families come from around the world.
We located my ancestor living about 250 kms max from where I was born in 1600 something.

flanneruk Apr 3rd, 2017 11:07 PM

<i>"Who is anti brits or anti something ?
Somebody cannot say that brexit is a stupidity without automatically being anti Brit ? " </i>

You chose to say "I hope nobody allows UK passport holders in EU.
UK voted Brexit, now they should stay away. "

That's not a comment about a political decision: it's an offensive remark about 60 million of us.

Are you simply incapable of telling the difference? Or just unable to remember what you said?

Either way: you're making an extraordinarily persuasive case for the Brexiteers.

WoinParis Apr 3rd, 2017 11:53 PM

Too bad ... if Brits lost common sense voting for something plain stupid and now they lose their famed sense of humor...

I know I write at second or third degree, but you should know me by now.

If I am the reason to justify the Brexit afterwards because I find it stupid, we live in the best of worlds !

WoinParis Apr 3rd, 2017 11:54 PM

And it was just offensive towards 31 millions of idiots who don't know better but still vote.

Hooameye Apr 4th, 2017 01:13 AM

"And it was just offensive towards 31 millions of idiots who don't know better but still vote."

In YOUR opinion.

WoinParis Apr 4th, 2017 02:30 AM

Yes, imo.
But these 31 millions who voted told me to go to hell basically.
So either they don't like me as European or they voted for the wrong reasons.
In all cases, they are idiots - imo. Tur idiots or temporary ones. And they will see/feel it soon actually.
In the long run, countries/civilizations have fared better when they installed roads, removed barriers with their neighbours.
Recentering on oneself has never been a winning strategy but ok for me if it suits you.

Hooameye Apr 4th, 2017 03:39 AM

What would be the "wrong" reasons.......In your opinion? Most people I know voted with regard to reasons that mattered to them and we all agreed that the EU was a "slight annoyance" until 2004, then the attitude changed considerably.

WoinParis Apr 4th, 2017 04:46 AM

Wrong reasons are that for a referendum people vote in the light of current problems not for the questoin at stake.
And as far as the wrong reasons were, I noted that UK brexiters campaigned in the sense that leaving Europe would mean saving money and limiting immigration.

If I wanted to quote my all time favourite politician : they had the choice between dishonour and immigration, they voted dishonour and will have immigration.

Europe is the only way to survice in a global mondial economy. Those who think that having had an empire and taking shelter in a small island will protect them are fools... And all the fools sailed away.

Anyway these converstations are best done at 2 am with a glass of good beer. In the meantime, if UK citizens are to endure a long and nasty visa procedure, that serves them right !

'Bien fait pour leur pomme !' (well done for their apple).

thursdaysd Apr 4th, 2017 05:42 AM

"But these 31 millions who voted told me to go to hell basically.
So either they don't like me as European or they voted for the wrong reasons."

Wow, talk about taking things personally. No, a vote for Brexit doesn't mean someone is telling WoinParis to go to hell. Or even that they don't like Europe or Europeans. My elder sister lived in Germany for several years and loves the place, plus she visits Europe three or four times a year, but she voted for Brexit. I think she was wrong, but she didn't didn't do it because she hates Europeans.

Hooameye Apr 4th, 2017 06:28 AM

"Those who think that having had an empire and taking shelter in a small island will protect them are fools."

I was wondering when you'd bring that up, people usually do when they're losing the argument. So the Spanish, German, Belgians etc didn't have empires in the past?? Sounds like a bit of jealousy that we were better at it than the other countries (at least we didn't wipe out a whole nation like the Spanish)!! Nobody thinks we will be "protected" on a small island (why don't you do what the Germans do and just call us island apes :-) )
Doesn't the fact that millions of people voted to go on our own tell you how much the EU NOT Europe is despised.

WoinParis Apr 4th, 2017 06:40 AM

' people usually do when they're losing the argument.'

Ah ?

Ok you win.

But as far as I am concerned you cannot despised EU and love Europe. That is a little bit how we perceive things here : Theresa wants to divorce, but she wants to keep living in the house, with a full fridge and access to TV.

Anyway. Enough said, you have won the argumetn. And I hope you'll live happily without EU. I will live less well without UK, but that is really not something you care for.

WoinParis Apr 4th, 2017 06:41 AM

Et d'abord, la perfide Albion, ca date pas d'hier, hein ?

Et Fachoda, hein ?

Et le Zaire, c'état pas un empire, c'était le parc privé du roi Léopold 1er.

thursdaysd Apr 4th, 2017 07:36 AM

"you cannot despised EU and love Europe"

Nonsense. Arguments in support of that assertion, please.

annhig Apr 4th, 2017 12:12 PM

Doesn't the fact that millions of people voted to go on our own tell you how much the EU NOT Europe is despised.>>

speak for yourself please Hooameye. I'll grant you that many [not necessarily all] Brexiteers may despise the EU but statistically speaking that does not mean that a majority of Brits do. Sadly I don't think that the Remain campaign made a sufficiently strong case for staying in by emphasising the non-economic benefits of remaining in, [eg in respect of culture and security not to mention peace] but given that many so called remainers turned out to be closet leavers that's hardly surprising.

As for WoinP losing the argument, I can't think of one argument on Brexit that Mrs May and her merry band of Brexiteers have won so far. No leaving on single market terms, no discussion of trade until we've sorted out the money we'll have to pay to leave [anyone remember those who were so keen to leave mentioning that it would cost us billions to do so?] no deal yet on the rights of UK citizens who live in the EU, Gibraltar being sold down the river - I could go on.

Hooameye Apr 4th, 2017 11:44 PM

"speak for yourself please Hooameye."

I was and for millions of others apparently.


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