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yk2004 Jan 31st, 2009 10:49 AM

Can someone tell me anything about the <b>Banqueting Hall</b> in London? Is there any tudor remains (ie York Place that belonged to Cardinal Wolsey) within the Banqueting Hall complex?

Also, does Lambeth Palace in London count?
http://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/1510

crdtny Jan 31st, 2009 01:47 PM

For YK
As a child I played games in Bishops Park just by Putney Bridge where the annual boat race starts.
Later in life I acquired an allotment adjoining the palace so I would be visiting there with friends on cycle trips very often.
I used to reach the palace from Putney Bridge just near the underground and cycle on a path just next to the Thames At the entrance to the grounds there are pillers on either side and a quaint small lodge on your left.Directly in front is the entrance to the palace courtyard with a fountain in the middle.Rumour has it from the workers.... the fountain was built on the site where witches were burnt.One day whilst sitting in the courtyard enjoying the peace and tranquility I got into conversation with one of the caretakers and he told me of a ghostly event both himself and another collegue witnessed.He also informed me of some Bishop of old who used to take girls there and do strange things to them.
The entrance to the courtyard has a very old wooden entrance and the brickwork of the building consists of smallish bricks.The courtyard has cobbled stones.
At the side of the palace is a small museum which has various items from the past.
I seem to recall reading somewhere Henry eight stayed there.
Around to the front of the palace is a lawn with benchs where one can sit and enjoy viewing the many different types of trees.
My favourite part of the palace grounds is the herb garden next to the original tudor wall with a beautiful arched entrance to the lawn in front of the palace.The herb garden was planted I believe by William of Orange.There is a plaque nearby with details.If ever I had roast lamb for Sunday dinner I always got my &quot;rosemary&quot; from the garden.Most locals did the same.
I have never seen a foreign tourist at Fulham Palace in all the times I have been there.
The church near the entrance to Bisops Park was where the film &quot;The Omen&quot; was filmed.Also again an old rumour about the church every year at a certain date a ghostly figure circles the church three times.
Many places nearby have names relevant to the Palace
The Mitre Public House
Bishops Road
Fulham Palace Road
Bishops Park etc
Coming from Hampton Court in days of old you would pass Fulham Palace on the way to Thomas Mores house fairly nearby further up the Thames towards Battersea Bridge and of course if you were on your way to the TOWER.???????????
http://www.touruk.co.uk/london_house...ace_house1.htm
http://www.ahsoc.fsnet.co.uk/royal-ley/fulpal.htm
http://www.qype.co.uk/place/38594-Fulham-Palace-London
http://www.aboutbritain.com/museumoffulhampalace.htm

yk2004 Jan 31st, 2009 06:54 PM

crdtny - Thank you for all the information. I'll definitely put Fulham Palace on the list for my next visit to London. Based on the Weir's book I'm reading, Katherine of Aragon also stayed at Fulham Palace for quite some time during the years of her widowhood - when she was betrothed to marry Prince Henry but King Henry VII was still wishy-washy about going forward with the marriage.

I think you were the one who brought by Prince Henry's room as well as St Etheldreda's in another thread some time last year???

crdtny Feb 1st, 2009 01:27 AM

yk
Worked in Lincolns Inn for over twenty years and lived in Fulham a long time.Another interesting story abouy the Fulham Palace area...Putney Bridge was where the mass murderer CHRISTIE was arrested.A policeman on river patrol on his boat saw a man on the bridge and thought he looked like Christie.He stopped the boat went up to the bridge and said &quot;are you Christie&quot;..it was him he was arrested and later hanged... several films were made of his life.
Whilst Fulham Palace is no Hampton Court it appealed to me because most of the time I was sitting in the courtyard I was the only person there.Hope you find it and let me know what you think.
Regards from UK.
crd

yk2004 Feb 2nd, 2009 05:40 AM

Two more:

<b>Kimbolton Castle</b> in Cambridgeshire; now part of Kimbolton School. This is where Katherine of Aragon spent the last days of her life after Henry VIII divorced her. She died here.
Some remains of the Tudor-era rooms survive.
http://www.kimbolton.cambs.sch.uk/thecastle.htm

<b>Peterborough Cathedral</b>
http://www.peterborough-cathedral.org.uk
Katherine of Aragon was buried here, her tomb can still be visited today. The Cathedral was not sacked during the dissolution of the monasteries due to Katherine's tomb there.

yk2004 Feb 2nd, 2009 05:47 AM

Leicester Abbey in Leicester Abbey Park. The abbey is in ruins but can still be seen. The abbey is where Cardinal Wolsey died, during his trip from York to London (likely to face death penalty there anyway).
http://www.leicester.gov.uk/index.asp?pgid=1944

flanneruk Feb 2nd, 2009 06:10 AM

On the other side of the nave at Peterborough cathedral from KofA's tomb (itself these days the centre of a kind of Aragonese nationalism minicult) is the tomb of Mary Queen of Scots. Oddly, whereas the plaque at Smithfield to William Wallace has become a sort of ScotNat shrine, Mary Stuart's tomb hasn't.

yk2004 Feb 2nd, 2009 06:27 AM

My understanding is that while Mary Queen of Scots was buried at Peterborough Cathedral, her remains have been moved to Westminster Abbey? So her tomb at Peterborough Cathedral is empty.

bilboburgler Feb 2nd, 2009 06:27 AM

tower of london seems a bit odd (ok for all the royal families since 1060 but... might be worth checking if the armour you may want to see is still there as loads has been moved up the armories museum in Leeds, West Yorkshire.

flanneruk Feb 2nd, 2009 06:35 AM

&quot; her remains have been moved to Westminster Abbey? So her tomb at Peterborough Cathedral is empty.&quot;

Could be. The tomb's still interesting as a tomb, and there's a ton of stuff about her

JP Feb 2nd, 2009 09:30 AM

The Vyne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vyne is a National Trust property that was the home of Lord Sandys, who was Lord Chamberlain to Henry VIII. It's one of our favorite English historic houses.

laurie_ann Feb 2nd, 2009 10:17 AM

If you are interested in Tudor sites you might like these two books I had while I was in London. They are about both the history and how to visit them.

The Amateur Historian's Guide to Medieval and Tudor London (Capital Travels) by Sarah Valente Kettler and Carole Trimble (2001)

The Amateur Historians' Guide to Medieval and Tudor England: Day Trips South of London - Dover, Canterbury, Rochester (Capital Travels) by Sarah Valente Kettler and Carole Trimble (2002)



sallyky Feb 2nd, 2009 05:30 PM

There is a plaque in Greenwich at the remains of Greenwich Palace. Henry VIII, Mary I, and Elizabeth ! were born there.

St. Alfege Church, where Henry VIII was baptized, is also in Greenwich.

And I think I read there are some things in the Greenwich Maritime Museum.

See http://tudorswiki.sho.com/page/Greenwich+Palace?t=anon

PatrickLondon Feb 3rd, 2009 09:51 AM

&gt;&gt;Oddly, whereas the plaque at Smithfield to William Wallace has become a sort of ScotNat shrine, Mary Stuart's tomb hasn't.&lt;&lt;

There was a reason why she took refuge from Scotland in England....

Mamaw Feb 3rd, 2009 12:11 PM

yk I just read online yesterday that there would be a exhibit of King Henry VIII at the Tower starting in April. I caught an article (in the daily mail) about it. They showed Henry's armor suits. One from the age of about 20 or so and the other from the age of 40, it's estimated that his waist at 40 was about 52 inches.

I have read every piece of material about Henry and his wives I could get my hands on. Phillipa Gregory books too. And ain't wikipedia FANTASTIC?

I don't know how I missed this thread, but thanks for starting it.

yk2004 Feb 3rd, 2009 12:23 PM

Mamaw - thanks for the heads-up. I looked up the Tower of London website and found the info:

<u>Henry VIII Dressed to Kill</u> exhibition opens April 3rd
http://www.hrp.org.uk/TowerOfLondon/...sedtokill.aspx

The British Library will also host a Henry VIII exhibition soon:

<u>Henry VIII Man and Monarch</u>
Opens April 23
http://www.bl.uk/henry

2009 is the 500th anniversary of Henry VIII's ascension to the throne, hence the numerous exhibitions.

I should start thinking about a trip to London. :?

Londonres Feb 3rd, 2009 12:58 PM

The Banqueting House is the only building that remains of Whitehall Palace although there are bits visible inside the Cabinet Office (not open to the public). The present Banqueting House dates from 1619, so it's not Tudor. York Place was the Archbishop of York's town house, and it was the basis of Whitehall palace when Henry VIII confiscated it from Cardinal Wolsey.

You might like Sherborne Castle in Dorset, built by Sir Walter Raleigh in 1594.

Londonres Feb 3rd, 2009 01:34 PM

Arundel Castle is also very interesting. Seat of the Dukes of Norfolk and their ancestors for over 850 years, who were major figures in Tudor times. The 3rd Duke was uncle to Anne Boleyn and Catherine Howard, and the 4th Duke was beheaded for plotting to marry Mary, Queen of Scots and depose Elizabeth I. Exhibits include some of Mary, Queen of Scots' personal possessions.

A former hunting lodge of Henry VIII stands near Bromley-by-Bow tube station, on the Blackwall Tunnel Approach Road. It's the oldest brick house in London, but it's not open to the public.

Queen Elizabeth's Hunting Lodge is open (built for Henry VIII in 1543).
It's on the edge of Epping Forest, near Chingford Railway Station.

crdtny Feb 4th, 2009 09:24 AM

You need to hurry to get a good view of Hampton Courthttp://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23605392-details/Hampton+Court+hotel+and+flats+get+go-ahead/article.do

About 16 years ago I was invited to a wedding at a mansion in Nonsuch Park.The building was of Tudor style but alas not original.After the wedding I made enquiries and discovered it was built on the site of Henry V111 hunting lodghttp://www.answers.com/topic/nonsuch-palacee.http://www.answers.com/topic/nonsuch-palace

I lived in Battersea Bridge Road which leads to Chelsea Bridge and every morning on the way to work I would pass the site of the home of St Thomas More.Nearby in Cheyne Walk was a plaque relating to a garden with mention of HenryV111.It was also near a club called the Sketch Club (very interesting place with great history and beautiful interior and very old fashioned at least when I was there last..it is in Dilke Street) where I was the first barman.Just next to Tite Street where Oscar Wilde lived prior to his stay at Reading Gaol.http://knowledgeoflondon.com/famous.html

yk2004 Feb 5th, 2009 06:03 AM

Has anyone mentioned <b>Syon Park</b>? It was the site of Syon Abbey which was dissolved by Henry VIII, and given to Duke of Somerset, Lord Protector of Edward VI.

Katherine Howard was taken during the investigation period, before she was sent to the Tower.

Later in history, it was where Lady Jane Grey was offered the Crown.

From the website, it's hard to tell if any of the original building still survives. Plenty of movies were filmed there
http://www.syonpark.co.uk/index.asp


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