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tower May 10th, 2012 12:46 PM

the "young kipper" joke..damn, I just got it and put on my yarmulke out of respect! Let's get "Other" into the fray..it'll go to 600!

Aduchamp1 May 10th, 2012 12:52 PM

It is not about Turkey, Other does not care. And Andrea is working on her art, she is above such pettifoggery.

annhig May 10th, 2012 01:11 PM

Hey Tower, you know you liked my young kipper joke.>>

i bet they were rolling in the aisles in Whitby!

where are you off to next, Adu?

Have they been warned?

Aduchamp1 May 10th, 2012 01:23 PM

I will be in Whitby all week at the Brilliant!Club.

We are in Edinburgh until Monday and then to Dublin for four days before heading home.

Today we went to Edinburgh Castle, which highlights the military history of the Scots by themslves and with the English. There was not one tourist group that they had not killed at one time or another.

We got this medal for killing the Germans, and the one for the French, and the Japanese, and that one the Americans.

It was a perfect day. It was in the 40's, windy, with unrelenting rain. We would have gone to the National Museum of Scotland but it was closed due to a wildcat strike.

annhig May 10th, 2012 01:51 PM

It was a perfect day. It was in the 40's, windy, with unrelenting rain. We would have gone to the National Museum of Scotland but it was closed due to a wildcat strike.>>

lucky you. sounds like a typical summer's day in Scotland.

nukesafe May 10th, 2012 01:51 PM

Being doubly cursed, i.e., both American and not Jewish, I confess to not getting the "young kipper" joke, either. Care to explain?

annhig May 10th, 2012 02:04 PM

Yom Kippur, nuke.

it took me a while too!

nukesafe May 10th, 2012 02:33 PM

Oooooooo--K.

Aduchamp1 May 10th, 2012 05:34 PM

Exactly Ann. Yom Kippor is the day of atonement, when Jews fast and spend the entire day in temple. It is one of the most impotant religious days of the year.

HappyTrvlr May 10th, 2012 05:43 PM

Has Dublin been alerted about your arrival next week?

Aduchamp1 May 10th, 2012 06:08 PM

Has Dublin been alerted about your arrival next week?

No, I did not tell my American friend about it who is a member of every Irish Catholic organization ever created and those about to be created and gets stopped by English immigration as the palest terrorist on their list. Besides I am on the No Drinking List.

cynthia_booker May 10th, 2012 06:16 PM

Not a wildcat strike - a worker's action. Even made the national news in the U.S.

Morgana May 11th, 2012 03:19 AM

I'm surprised at your comment on Robin Hood's Bay - did you park up, admire the view and then take the very steep walk down to the sea? All those little ginnels, snickets and winding lanes to explore? And the old houses clinging to the ravine as it leads down to the beach slipway? The small museum with its history of smuggling and shipwrecks?
RHB is normally considered one of the most picturesque and interesting places to visit on the North Yorkshire coast!
Rock Candy is known here just as 'rock' or a 'stick of rock' and you can get it at any seaside resort with the name running through it. It's not famous in Whitby any more than any other resort, however fudge is and there are some very good fudge shops in the town.
Whitby jet is famous too.
http://www.yorkshirecoastfossils.co....itby%20jet.htm

Morgana May 11th, 2012 03:28 AM

Meant to add - I really like the odd buildings dotted around the Castle Howard estate, and many have great architectural value.
The Pyramid is a Nicholas Hawksmoor building. Another 'folly' DOES have a use as it's the family Mausoleum (a Vanburgh and Hawksmoor design). It is still used as the family burial place.

Aduchamp1 May 11th, 2012 07:50 AM

I'm surprised at your comment on Robin Hood's Bay - did you park up, admire the view and then take the very steep walk down to the sea.

Yes, that is exactly what we did. Maybe we were a little tired by then. We did walk through some of the ginnels as well. There were some spectacular panoramas.

The mausoleum was a bit of intrusion on the countryside. It could be seen as some beacon from many different angles.

bilboburgler May 11th, 2012 01:19 PM

some of these follies, but not all, were used as "make work" during recessions. A sort of QE de nos jours.

Morgana May 11th, 2012 11:56 PM

Yes, we have a 'Druid's Temple' in the Dales close to where I live, built 200 years ago like a mini Stonehenge. Made as you say to generate work for the local population during a recession.
However, the Castle Howard ones are statement pieces of their times - built with no expensive spared and designed by THE leading architects of the day.
And as for being an intrusion on the countryside - they were placed on hills exactly so they could be seen by locals and visitors as a 'look at us, we've arrived and we're not going anywhere' message. No point in placing them where they wouldn't be seen!

Aduchamp1 May 12th, 2012 06:47 AM

However, the Castle Howard ones are statement pieces of their times - built with no expensive spared and designed by THE leading architects of the day.

That is called excess and is the stuff of revolutuons. Of course, only THE leading architect will do, as if there is such a thing. Didn't THE leading architect totally raze the previous structure and build the present one north and south so, that little sunlight would permeate the rooms?

Morgana May 12th, 2012 07:12 AM

I seem to recall they razed an entire village (Henderskelfe??)when they built the house, as the village spoilt the view!

sassy_cat May 12th, 2012 03:15 PM

Yes, I'm also a little surprised you didn't like Robin Hood's Bay. Did you skip Flamborough Head?

Weather does sound typical for Edinburgh. That castle would look menacing and dour in brilliant sunlight. Just looked at a friend's photos of a recent trip to Edinburgh and there were more than 50 shades of grey (no nothing to do with that book but he did get engaged).

Aduchamp1 May 12th, 2012 04:14 PM

Optimist n. Someone who brings sunglasses to Edinburgh.

The Scots are incredibly nice people even though all the men including the university professors look like football hooligans and the women like to show their legs when it isn't raining.

Details to follow including a visit to the Falkirk Wheel, our best meal so far was a mistake, and Mrs Adu is trying all the different alochol available to her and I take advantage of her-I steal the remote.

annhig May 13th, 2012 05:13 AM

Optimist n. Someone who brings sunglasses to Edinburgh.>>

my DH swears that every time i wear my sunglasses the sun goes in.

I think it's something to do with living in Cornwall, which is not dissimilar from Edinburgh when it comes to the amount of rain they get.

Aduchamp1 May 13th, 2012 08:28 PM

Treacle Part Whatever

The wind is howling as I write prepare these somnambulistic observations. The rain is pounding sideways. It is not an accident that your grandmother put Scotchguard on her sofa.

We are staying in Edinburgh very near the Castle, in a neighborhood that must have literate perverts. There are three strip joints nearby and as many bookstores. It is nice live among those with diverse interests.

The Castle itself is dedicated to the military history of Scotland and there was not one group of tourists with whom the Scots alone or in conjunction with the British have fought some sort of war.

The curators at the National Museum of Scotland have a fine sense of design and space. The original section finished in 1866 soars with light and white painted railings and arches, emitting a salubrious aura like in a very old hospital. This is contrasted with often dimly lit exhibitions just on the other side of the wall. A new section built in 1998 has passage ways and turns to break up long corridors of exhibits. The selection of relics and pieces is highly eclectic and but regard to industry Scotscentric. Among the more interesting things is Dolly the first cloned sheep. She looks well as she revolves on a pedestal with what I think is fake hay at her real fake cloven hooves. The millennium clock is on display but that only rings every thousand years.

The inexpensive food is better in Edinburgh than in London. We have had fresh and tasty soups at pubs and restaurants. Mrs. Adu ordered haggis which was pretty good as long as you do not think about what you are eating. We had our best meal by accident. We wanted to go to Howie’s as recommended in Frommer’s for its local food, but when the menu came it was much more expensive and French Mediterranean. Both were on Victoria Street and both boasted blue facades. In fact we were eating in Maison Blue. I had that traditional Lothian dish Lamb tagine. Mrs. Adu had a perfectly prepared and locally killed venison, which did not taste gamey in the least. For dessert we shared a Bailey Cream Brulee. Today we are off to the real Howie’s otherwise it will give Mrs. Adu fuel for years as to my knowledge of restaurants and sense of direction as if she needed some..

And yes anyone who remembers one of my previous parts of the trip report, it is the name of my useless cousin. The food was pretty good at Howie’s. I had pork that was little tough that was accompanied by a ceramic cup of substance that bounced back when touched with a fork. It was their gelatinous version of apple sauce. Mrs. Adu’s salmon was atop a pile of pasta. As is the wont in Edinburgh, service was pleasant and helpful.

As a bread cuckoo, I am always looking to taste what is available. We had the perfect scone at of all places the café at the Falkirk wheel. Otherwise the bread is just so-so.
The local Sainsbury, a grocery chain, sells what they call packaged Scottish pancakes, which are these little spongy discs that are surprisingly satisfying. Since we are in an apartment we bought some proper butter at ¼ of the cost in the US. A nice cholesterol laden diversion.

We stopped in a Waterstone’s and I asked the clerk if she could recommend a Scottish writer that is well-regarded and contemporary. I told her while British writers are easily accessible in the US, Scottish writers are not. She said that is also true in Scotland and that if you were in 30’s or older, that little of the Scottish writers, besides Bobby Burns and Robert Louis Stevenson, were taught in the schools and you had to wait until university to read the later and serious writers. She recommended and I bought So I Am Glad by A.L. Kennedy which is supposed to be witty and dark and How Late It Was James Kelman.

Princes Street is nothing more than the world’s longest strip mall. George Street has the better stores. This morning we went to Leith. There you go into a mall in order to gain entrance to the retired Her Majesty’s Yacht Britannia. Go past the underwear sale, make a left at the food court, buy a ticket and enter the world of the Royals.

The Falkirk Wheel is probably the most wondrous, if not, the most purposeless invention I have seen. It is used on the smallest of canals in lieu of a lock system. But the boats it transforms must be recreational and not commercial. It moves a boat skyward in a gondola like a Ferris wheel until it slowly reaches it destination 80 feet in the air. There it meets another section of the canal where a watertight seal is somehow formed and the boat continues on its journey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkirk_Wheel


Helpful Edinburgh Travel Hints

1. If this is summer, go in winter and save the money.
2. Bring anti-fungal cream for the outside of your shoes.
3. Be sure to use a laminated map.
4. Umbrellas are useless. Bring waterproof things including light gloves.
5. Bring you kilts, this is probably the only place you can wear them without your bagpipes.
6. Who the hell knows what the people are saying, and there is no Scottish-English translation book, but it is fookin freezin.
7. If you have arthritis or have trouble with hills and stairs, send someone you do not like in your stead.
8. If you are a young single woman and you go on a date with a young Scottish man, be hopeful he will wear his cleanest t-shirt.

And that is why Fodor’s will never ask me to write for them.

Tomorrow we have an early flight to Dublin on Ryanair. There is little chance of a terrorist because not even a suicide killer would risk his life on Ryan.

bilboburgler May 14th, 2012 12:29 AM

For my first job I worked in Scotland on the West coast. The HR director showed me round and talked about the business. Being a young man I grinned and nodded at everything he said but I admit that one thing he did say was "you may not be able to understand what the people were saying", this would have been useful if I had understood it.

Fortunatly the people on the shop floor did not have broad accents and this town and my English town had been trading (in Newfoundland) for centuries so I understood them but the HR director (from the East coast) was beyond me.

annhig May 14th, 2012 02:58 AM

adu - try Ian Rankin - contemporary writer of crime stories set in Edinburgh - if you want to understand what people have been saying [but not if you want to sleep at nights].

my abiding memory of a family holiday in Edinburgh when i was 12 is pain, as it turned out that whilst toiling up and down all those hills, i had a verruca.

enjoy Dublin.

tower May 14th, 2012 06:32 AM

Adieu! Why do I bother sending you email after email of suggestions for your trips...you never follow even one. Now lets see what happens in Oyerland. Say hello to Molly Malone...merely a statue...and kvell at the Book of Kvells.

When you see a sign that says "Bienvenido..Tijuana"..boy, have you taken the wrong turn. Listen to Andrea.

tower May 14th, 2012 06:34 AM

That's <u>Tiajuana</u>, of course..can't win 'em all.

tower May 14th, 2012 06:41 AM

...still arguing over the correct spelling here in California..so take yer pick.

Aduchamp1 May 14th, 2012 09:18 AM

We ate twice on Victoria Street which is used for filming for the Kate Atkinson Case Histories Jackson Brodie mysteries.

Tower-The last time you were in Ireland was during the potato famine. And in Turkey we looked for a restaurant you recommended that closed during the Ottoman Empire.

We will kvell at the Book of Kells and kvetch at the ketches in the Irish Sea.

tower May 14th, 2012 01:21 PM

adieu...ain't nothing quite like the good old days.
Met Mel Brooks in a toga at one of the ruins in Turkey. Even funny speaking that weird Latin lingo. Love, MCLXII

dorfan2 May 14th, 2012 04:14 PM

I also was going to suggest Ian Rankin as a Scottish author, and you can easily access his books here in the states. Best if read in order of publication.

Your Edinburgh Travel Tips were awesome!

Aduchamp1 May 14th, 2012 07:08 PM

Thank you all.

Tower

We were watching the Beeb the other night and Jackie Mason is doing his show in London. They did a 10 minute piece on him. We don't understand him, how will the Brits?

annhig May 15th, 2012 09:04 AM

funny, whenever I've seen Jackie mason on the telly [and he's very popular here] I've had no difficulty understanding him at all!

tower May 15th, 2012 09:16 AM

ann...still giggle at Benny Hill's shenaningans on reruns...Mason is much more cerebral as is Mel Brooks...when you feel like going low brow, Benny is the slap-stick answer.

tower May 15th, 2012 09:19 AM

Hey Adu...you in Dublin now?

Aduchamp1 May 15th, 2012 09:36 AM

Yes, we just returned from seeing Trinity College. And they did not have the bobble-head doll of Beckett, I was looking for.

There are certain things that make you feel like a child:

First, when you pay for something with money that you just exchanged, you hold it out like like a child and hope the merchant takes the right amount, so you can bring the rest back to Mommy. You really feel like an idiot reading the coins, flipping it over and ove to see how much it is worth.

Two, crossing the street in the UK. In Dublin there is a ditinct sound that goes off when the light turns green. This is to alert blind people and tourists. In NYC jaywalking is an Olympic sport and I am pernenial favorite. But here, I am like a little child looking every which way including up for traffic.

annhig May 15th, 2012 02:25 PM

tower - i never got benny hill when i was a child and I still don't. sorry!

tower May 16th, 2012 06:45 AM

<i>and I still don't</i>

Ann, then you must be watching the old reruns. Aha!

Aduchamp1 May 16th, 2012 08:19 AM

At 62, I am the last to any party. We stopped for a bite and there were two men as old as Dublin itself playing Irish tunes. They were wonderful and played songs that everyone knew but us. One was the Irish Ship The Rover and the other was Tommy Sands's Your Daughters and Sons.

Today we went to buy the sheet music. One music store had The Irish Ship but sent us to the Sinn Fein Shop for the other. Since there are CCTV all over the place, I am sure I will labeled a terrorist and will be frisked in perpetuity by the TSA now and they did not carry any sheet music.

I stll do not like Irish dancing. The dancers seem to stricken by a rare disease, they are paralyzed from the waist up.

annhig May 16th, 2012 11:15 AM

Ann, then you must be watching the old reruns. Aha!>>

got me there, Tower!


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