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Melnq8 Jan 24th, 2024 06:59 AM

Dec 6 - St Nicholas Day

It’d snowed again overnight, we woke to a wall of white fog. We’d hoped to take a bus to Hintertux at the end of the Tux Valley, but we knew we’d need a good weather day to make the cable car excursion worthwhile, and today wasn’t that day (48 each for a pedestrian ticket).

The Hintertux Glacier has the longest skiing season in Austria, and rises some 3,250 meters above sea level. It’s home to the highest double cable car in the world, and is said to offer spectacular views - on an ideal day.

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We’d hemmed and hawed about taking the bus into the valley anyway and walking along the river instead of going to the top, but we couldn’t get excited about taking a bus some 40 minutes to a river walk that might or might not be accessible, so instead we decided to walk along the Ziller River towards Hippach via the mostly cleared, completely flat river trail.

So we set out on the walk from our apartment, soon finding ourselves on the Der Skulptureweg am der Zillerpromenade, a path alongside the river with an assortment of sculptures on display.

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Mayrhofen
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Der Skulptureweg am der Zillerpromenade

We walked as far as Ramsau (surprised to discover that Hippach and Ramsau are just across the river from each other), crossed the river and then returned to Mayrhofen on the opposite side. The walk took about two hours and wasn’t particularly interesting, but we got some fresh air and exercise.

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Ziller River

Then we walked back to the tourist office to ask about our guest cards, which we’d read online will cover transport back to Jenbach upon departure. Nope. The same helpful woman from the previous day was manning the desk.

Evidently, this perk is only good with the digital guest card which not all accommodation owners provide. The paper card - which we’d been given - is basically of no use this time of year, as most businesses that offer discounts with the card are closed and the buses run so infrequently. So we just confirmed what we’d already discovered, that our card wasn’t worth the paper it was printed on.

Our new friend told us that the town is transitioning between the two cards, but it will take a while to get it all up and running. We also learned that neighboring towns in the Zillertal are part of different resorts, so they have different bus systems, etc. These towns don’t play well with each other.

She gave us a very short list of open restaurants (there are approximately 80 in the area). We sought out Pane & Vino, which was open, but nothing appealed, so we went back to the busy Ellie’s for an encore hamburger for Bill, chicken burger for me, shared fries, Guinness and white wine - 35.20, different waiter, but he too was an English speaker from Brazil.

We’d been told Café Kostner was open until 7 pm and recommended for their cake; and as it was my birthday, I was looking forward to a treat. But, alas, they were closed!

Mayrhofen was very quiet, even more so than the past two days. We picked up a few things at Billa and Spar and walked back towards the apartment, stopping in the Mayrhofen Parish Church en route.

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Mayrhofen Parish Church
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Mayrhofen

I’d noticed another bakery during our many walks to and from the apartment over the past few days, and knew they were open from 2 pm onwards, so we popped in. I was hoping for a nice slice of cake, but no, just bread and limited sweets, none of which appealed. There would be no cake for me today.

To be continued…

Melnq8 Jan 24th, 2024 10:20 AM

Dec 7 -

Today we were leaving sleepy Mayrhofen for S. Cristina, Italy. Bill had discovered that there was a transport strike, but fortunately there was guaranteed transport within certain hours; we were good to go.

He booked the train from Mayrhofen to Brennero/Brenner - the border station between Austria and Italy - on the ÖBB site (12 for him, 18.80 for me).

Because we didn’t meet the resident qualification, we were ineligible for a Sud Tirol number on their transport app, and were therefore unable to purchase tickets within Sud Tirol online.

It took us about an hour to reach Jenbach, where we connected to an EC train to Brennero/Brenner.

We’d wrongly assumed that Brenner would be a big station; but it was just a few platforms, a broken ticket machine and stairs, no elevator. As we stood at the broken ticket machine wondering how we’d get a ticket, a worker passed by and told us to go upstairs to platform 6 to find a working machine. So, we dragged our luggage up a second set of stairs. He followed us and waited while we purchased tickets to Waidbruck Bahnhof - a journey of about an hour (20 for both) and then directed us to the correct platform (TRNS?) for the train to Merano, which we might have never found without his help, bless him.

The train was empty at first, but progressively became more and more busy. En route we passed through Chiusa/Klausen, the town overlooked by what I now know is Sabiona Monastery/Kloster Säben/Monastero di Sabiona, piquing our interest for a future visit.

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Sabiona Monastery/Kloster Säben/Monastero di Sabiona

Our tickets weren’t checked until minutes before we were due to get off. Bill pointed out a wine bar near Waidbruck Bahnhof but we didn’t stop to investigate.

We walked to the nearest bus stop, waited a bit, and then boarded the 350 bus to Val Gardena, paying the driver 3 each. When we arrived in Orteisi, loads of people got on; it was now standing room only.

We got off at S. Cristina Rathaus, took a minute to get our bearings, and then walked about three minutes uphill to our accommodation, Ariston Garni Apartments. The owner was surprised we didn’t have a car (there’s a skinny garage under the building) and intimated that the buses could be an issue. She was also surprised to learn we were American, and told us she gets many American visitors in the summer, but very few in the winter.

We’d booked a two bedroom, two bathroom apartment on the first floor; the owner took one look at our luggage and told us she’d put us in a nice apartment…on the top floor, and there was no elevator (we counted 54 steps, memories of Coimbra, Portugal). Best laid plans.

She gave me a quick tour of the building while Bill took the luggage up a few floors; then this tiny wisp of a woman grabbed my rather heavy suitcase and took it up the remaining stairs to the top floor. She told us that tomorrow was a public holiday - Feast of the Immaculate Conception, but the grocery store and bakery would be open. She also told us that S. Cristina was gearing up for a World Cup ski race that weekend.

As there were only two of us, she’d locked the second bedroom, but gave us the key when we asked if we could use the floor space of that room to lay out our luggage; we promised we’d not use the bedroom or the second bathroom. It would have been quite a squish had she not let us do this. The apartment was small, but clean, comfortable, well equipped and not too hot. It worked well for us.

We got settled and took in the views of the tip of the 3,000 meter Sassolungo poking out across from our balcony and of the Tervela waterfall (which is lit up at night).

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Sassolungo

After a quick run to the nearby Despar, we Googled ‘open restaurants’ near us, and then walked up several hills to the Plaza Pizzeria Restaurant; we’d not eaten and were starving. Here we had pizza, ½ liter of house wine, and sparkling water €48.10; good, but too much food. When will I learn?

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In addition to a slew of ski and ski clothing shops, we saw several wood sculpting shops. Google later told me that “wood carving in Val Gardena boasts a rich tradition and dates back to the beginning of the 17th century” and that it was also home to the world’s largest hand carved nativity scene.

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Wood sculpting shop

It’d been a full day, three trains, one bus and lots of hills, but I was looking forward to exploring Val Gardena.

To be continued...

Ingo Jan 24th, 2024 12:29 PM

Mel, overrun in both winter and summer. Another comment on summer hiking - while there are lots and lots of trails I found them not well connected for loops (or quite long/strenuous), especially if you want to use the cable cars. These cable cars were obviously built for skiing, not for hiking (different from many Swiss resorts, think Engadine or Bernese Oberland.)

Adelaidean Jan 24th, 2024 12:33 PM

Mel, I had the same trouble, couldn’t buy tickets on the South Tyrol App, but at least got all the routing. Sometimes the drivers couldn’t be bothered with ticket sales, if running late, so we travelled without tickets a few times.

We have been to Chiusa/Klausen on 2 trips - it’s really charming. We walked to that monastery last June (sweaty walk!)

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Loving your report!

Melnq8 Jan 24th, 2024 02:46 PM

Ingo - interesting about the hiking trails - we found the area disjointed and were surprised that the resorts don't work well together. I thought it might be better in season, but perhaps not.

Adelaidean - good to know - we might have to check it out. Funny how one trip can lead to another, and another and another...

dreamon Jan 24th, 2024 08:21 PM

Mel, I would go back to Europe in winter in a heartbeat if I could. Your photos are wonderful and sounds like another brilliant holiday. Thanks for sharing. Our daughter and her boyfriend just returned from 3 months swanning around central Europe in winter and they had the best time ever (even better than when she went with me - now how could that be?!).

Melnq8 Jan 25th, 2024 05:18 AM

dreamon - in the four years since our last winter trip, we'd forgotten about some of the challenges of traveling in winter (or perhaps we're just getting old). All the winter gear, traction devices, the short days, etc, it was a bit more cumbersome than we'd remembered (and we live in a cold climate). We travel in winter here too of course, but for much shorter lengths of time.

I'm glad your daughter and BF had a good time though - no doubt a memorable trip - three months sounds fantastic.

Melnq8 Jan 25th, 2024 09:12 AM

Dec 8 -

We had such a quiet night that we wondered if we were the only guests. The first glimpse outside the window showed a black and white landscape, no sun today, -3c.

We studied the map over coffee trying to get our bearings.

We’d been given the Sud Tirol guest card which covers transport throughout Sud Tirol; a wonderful thing, we’d get much use from it over the next 10 days.

We set out in the gloom to explore, pleased to find the tourist office open on this public holiday. We asked if there was a trail to the Tervela waterfall, were told yes; it would give us a good overview of S. Cristina, but we’d need our traction cleats.

So it was back to the apartment to get our cleats and then out again to find the trail. We walked up the steep hill to the church, popped inside, then located the trail, soon sidetracked by the Val Gardena Railway tunnel, which we walked through and back before resuming the trail to the waterfall.

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S. Cristina Church
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Val Gardena Railway tunnel

We followed the signs for the Raia dl luesch - Dorfrungweg Village tour, putting on our much needed traction cleats partway through. We walked up to and under the mostly frozen Tervela waterfall, and then worked our way back down to town.

It was an excellent introduction to S. Cristina with nice views over the village. It took us about 90 minutes.

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Tervela Waterfall
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Views over S. Cristina

We next sought out lunch - choosing Ristorante Pizzeria L’Fudle because it was busy - whether because it was good, or because it was the only place open we had no idea.

Nice place this; white tablecloths, great service and lovely pizza. Bill went for the Diavola, I chose the Popey (spinach, ricotta and pine nuts) bringing a smile from the waiter at my mispronunciation. I liked it better than the pizza from the Plaza Pizzeria Restaurant, although I could have done with a bit less spinach, Bill preferred the thinner crust from the Plaza Pizzeria Restaurant.

It was still too much food; we’d considered sharing a salad and a pizza, but couldn’t find a salad that appealed, so…
€42.40 including €4 coperto, sparkling water and a ½ liter of house red (a bargain at €9).

It was cold and snowing; Bill wasn’t feeling great, so we went back to the apartment.

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S. Cristina

Later, we took the bus to Ortisei, free with Sud Tirol guest card. We poked around and stumbled upon St Jacob’s Church, where we watched a men’s choir practice, and then went out to explore the Christmas Markets.

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Ortisei

Ortisei was hopping and decked out for the holidays; making S. Cristina look like a ghost town. We took a wine break at the warm and cozy La Cercia Enoteca, Bill loving the Riesling, me trying two reds, both of us admiring the stemware (€23.90).

The tiny wine bar was heaving and loud by 5:30, an exuberant Italian man seated next to us breaking a glass during an animated, arm waving conversation with his tablemates.

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La Cercia Enoteca

Afterwards we wandered a bit more, now cold and snowing, then took a bus back to S. Cristina. The bus display screen wasn’t working (which turned out to be a common theme), and it was dark, so we had to really pay attention to avoid missing our stop.

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We were beginning to understand our host’s comment about the buses, so far the 350 bus had been absolutely heaving every time we used it.

To be continued...

zebec Jan 25th, 2024 10:03 AM

Wow, such an ethereal glow from that Ortesi church above. Mel, Rick Steves one had an episode wherein his family was hosted by pals in Gimmewald. His then-teen son Andy paired with those host's similarly-aged boy to portray Kramper and his associate.
I am done. the Mel TR

Melnq8 Jan 25th, 2024 11:07 AM

zebec - I didn't know Krampus was a Swiss thing, never experienced it there in all our Christmas trips to Switzerland.

Adelaidean Jan 25th, 2024 01:57 PM

That frozen waterfall, Mel!!! 🥶🥶🥶 Incredible.

I had to look up traction cleats. Hmmm, so much stuff needed for a winter holiday.

We had a summer week in Ortisei when the boys were teens, and we all loved it, our first taster of the Dolomites.
I know it’s very ‘touristy’ but for good reason, access to cablecars, good trails that are well connected, convenient bus, lots of restaurant and lodging options.

love_travel_Aus Jan 25th, 2024 02:23 PM

Wonderful photos Mel!! Thank you.
We have had a number of stays n Ortisei and whilst it is very much a tourist centre our stays have been mostly in Autumn and not all that busy.
We have often wondered what it is like during the Christmas season, knowing that it is not a time of year we can ever visit, so again thank you.
And that frozen waterfall is wow!!

ms_go Jan 25th, 2024 04:20 PM

Great report and photos! We almost went to Austria over winter a couple of years ago, starting with Vienna at New Year's and then beyond - but there were still quite a few covid restrictions. Maybe an idea for next winter :?

Love your view of the Sassolungo. Lots of memories of that from our first trip to the Dolomites. We've hiked much of the way around it, and also down the trail (partly scree slope) between it and the Sassopiatto to the Monte Pana station, which is probably near where you stayed.

Melnq8 Jan 25th, 2024 04:50 PM

I had to look up traction cleats. Hmmm, so much stuff needed for a winter holiday.

Well, more than for a summer holiday, but not a problem for those of us with a closet full of winter gear:)

The secret is layers.

Our traction cleats don't take up much space, but are a pain to put on. They're lifesavers on packed snow and ice.


Leely2 Jan 25th, 2024 05:53 PM

Loving this report! After a New Year's visit to Yellowstone for wolf watching (which was amazing but I've never been so miserably cold), I sorta swore off winter travel. Maybe I should reconsider.


Originally Posted by Adelaidean (Post 17529384)
We had a summer week in Ortisei when the boys were teens, and we all loved it, our first taster of the Dolomites.
I know it’s very ‘touristy’ but for good reason, access to cablecars, good trails that are well connected, convenient bus, lots of restaurant and lodging options.

It might be more touristy now--seems as if post-Covid, everywhere in Italy is mobbed. I stayed in Ortisei too, at the beginning of the summer season I believe a yea or two after your trip, Adelaidean, and it was far from crowded. First few days I, a daily jogger, would get up early each morning and run from my hotel to Santa Cristina and back. After a few days of that plus all-day hikes, I stopped the a.m. jog. My shins, ai ai ai!

Melnq8 Jan 26th, 2024 08:16 AM

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Any idea on how to fix this? It only happens on first paragragh.

Leely2 Jan 26th, 2024 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Melnq8 (Post 17529572)

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Hit source in the menu above the text box and delete the [ h1 ] and [/ h1 ] before and after your words.

Melnq8 Jan 26th, 2024 09:09 AM

Thanks Leely I'll try again.

neckervd Jan 26th, 2024 09:15 AM

In addition to post 42:
https://www.suedtirolmobil.info/en/t...urocity-ticket

Melnq8 Jan 26th, 2024 09:40 AM

Dec 9 -

It’d been a rather noisy night, our neighbors speaking in loud rapid-fire Italian; it sounded like there were 10 people staying next door.

The Sassolungo was back in view, the day promising; it was time to check out the Puez Odle Nature Park.

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We’d decided to take the Col Raiser cableway and then walk the trail down to Selva, my knees wary of the 500 meter descent.

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We walked up the hill to the Dosses Plaza bus stop, encountering a rather hectic scene; a lot of cars and a bus trying to turn in the roundabout, while ski toting pedestrians tried to cross the street - all made for a bit of chaos.

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We took bus 358 to the Col Raiser cable station, where we bought a one way ticket to the top after confirming with the attendant that the trail down to Selva was in good condition (€19 each). We were told it was open and groomed, but we’d need good boots. No problem.

So, we went up…

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...and it was absolutely breathtaking at the top - I couldn’t stop taking photos.

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Col Raiser

Before locating the trail, we popped into the Almhotel restaurant for lattes and a shared piece of cake, the queue for coffee long, the wait even longer but…coffee is an art, no? 13.20.

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Almhotel restaurant

We then compared the paper map we’d been given by the S. Cristina tourist office and the informational map posted near the various trails and ski pistes - discovering that none of the numbers on our map matched the numbers on the trail signs. Huh.

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Col Raiser

Eventually, we figured out that the trail we’d planned to take to Selva - the same trail we’d asked about before buying our one way tickets to the top, was closed. Well crap.

So, on to Plan B.

We set out on another trail, not knowing how long it was, or where it went. This turned out to be a gorgeous hike surrounded by those spectacular peaks. We followed the trail to an overlook, and then past a gate, where the trail disappeared and left us sinking into the snow up to our knees, so we turned back.

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We backtracked to Col Raiser and then followed a wide easy walking trail that led to Rufugio-Hutte Fermeda, which I’ve since learned is on the Seceda Alp. The trail was fairly busy with lots of walkers and even a stroller or two, which must have been fun in the snow.

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Trail to Rufugio-Hutte Fermeda

Here we had a nice lunch on the terrace while soaking up those fabulous views. Bill went for the steak tartare, I chose the polenta with mountain cheese which came adorned with flowers (I asked Bill later if I had flowers in my teeth, why yes, I did), washed down with 5dl of house red, €50.50; the food very good, the views spectacular.

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Inside the restaurant was heaving, the poor wait staff running their tails off. It was quite pleasant on the terrace, but the minute the sun dipped, it got cold in a hurry.

We returned the way we’d come, and then had to buy tickets to go back down (19 each one way, 28 each return), as we hadn’t bought return tickets planning to walk down to Selva. Best laid plans. We’d spent about four hours at the top on this glorious day.

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Walk back to Col Raiser

Back at the base of Col Raiser, we took bus 358 back down to Dosses Plaza, and then waited for a bus to Selva. We were finding the bus situation a bit confusing. Fortunately there was a bus for skiers and a bus for non-skiers, otherwise it would have been a scrum.

Once in Selva we got off at the Nives bus stop, walked through town and the Christmas Market, and visited a church. Selva was quiet when we arrived around 4:30 pm, but rather busy by the time we left. I really liked Selva, which was pretty and lively, but not as hectic as Ortisei.

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Selva church

We popped into the cozy Nives wine bar for a drop (13.50) before heading for the bus stop, where we had to wait about 20 minutes, alongside a lot of skiers. So far, the buses here hadn’t been on time, but there’d been a lot of traffic. We weren’t sure if this was due to the long holiday weekend, or if it was just normal for early ski season.

Fortunately, a bus for non-skiers turned up and we got on and returned to Dosses Plaza. We then walked down to Despar to pick up a few things before returning to our apartment, the store well stocked for the holiday.

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Despar, S. Cristina

Mariah Carey had followed us to Italy; her Christmas music was everywhere.

To be continued...

ms_go Jan 26th, 2024 02:23 PM

Loving the photos! The views on the walk from Seceda to Col Raiser are just amazing. One of my favorite areas. I now want to see it in the winter!

We spent a week in Selva on that trip - tried to go back for a visit when we were in the area in 2019, but it was pouring rain.

tripplanner001 Jan 26th, 2024 03:35 PM

The mountains and the Christmas markets - Italian Tyrol is definitely my type of place. Only if it is not so hard to reach.

Ingo Jan 26th, 2024 11:48 PM

Gorgeous photos, Mel! Seceda Alm really looks pretty in the snow, too. Ah, the torrone and panettone ... yummy!

Melnq8 Jan 27th, 2024 06:24 AM

tripplanner - we didn't find Sud Tirol hard to reach...we'd not been before so there was the usual first trip bumbling, but one figures it out pretty quickly on the ground. I'd love to see the area in summer, but crowds and hot weather puts us both off.

Melnq8 Jan 27th, 2024 06:59 AM

Dec 10 -

More sun was predicted for today, so we walked to the S. Cristina - Monte Pana chairlift and bought tickets to Monte Pana (18 each return). It had snowed overnight, the streets of S. Cristina were a bit icy and fully shaded; it’d be awhile before the sun would reach the valley.

There was only one other person using the chairlift; I think most skiers drive.

We were in the shade the entire slow crawl up the mountain; it was damn cold, -2c and windy.

I’m not a fan of chairlifts in general, but even less so of this one, which was open and exposed (no bubble). I found myself wishing I’d worn taller socks as the wind whipped up my pant legs.

Once at the top we popped into Sporthotel Monte Pana to warm up with a hot chocolate - 6.60 for both, and nothing special. The hotel café was busy with likeminded skiers and visitors.

We then tried to locate the easy SunPana circular path, drawn in by the ‘sun’ in the name, and the promise of nice views of the Puez-Odle Nature Park, but we found no signs. It was cold and shady up here too (this at 11 am) so we decided to look for it later in the day, hoping the sun would find it by the time we did.

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Monte Pana views

We then took the next chairlift up to Mont de Sëura, a high plateau at the bottom of the Sassolungo, after asking the operator if the trail down to Sporthotel Monte Pana was accessible and groomed. We were told ‘all is good’.

This chairlift moved quite a bit faster and had a bubble so I felt more comfortable (€15 each one way). There were plenty of skiers up here despite the lack of sun.

Once at the top, we couldn’t find any trail signs, so we asked the zipline operator for assistance. We were finding winter hike/walk trails at Italian ski areas a bit short on information.

He pointed out the trail, telling us to cross the ski piste; so we dodged the skiers, worked our way down the far edge of the very steep ski slope, and then set out on the trail back down to Sporthotel Monte Pana, estimated at 90 minutes. Crossing pistes as a pedestrian always makes me nervous, but it’s very common in the many ski areas we’ve visited in Europe.

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Mont de Sëura
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Mont de Sëura

Most of the walk was in the shade. I got very excited when we reached a slice of sunshine here and there; I was freezing and desperately needed some sun.

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Mont de Sëura to Monte Pana trail

The trail led right past the Sassolungo, offering some nice views. There were quite a few backcountry skiers, going uphill as we went down, and crossing over to an area closer to the Sassolungo that we were unable to reach due to the very deep snow.

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Mont de Sëura to Monte Pana trail
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Mont de Sëura to Monte Pana trail

About 15 minutes from Monte Pana, the trail became a sheet of thick ice; it appeared to have been driven on, perhaps by logging trucks; there were a lot of cut logs stacked through here.

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We were wearing our traction cleats, but were still leery of all that ice. We tried to cut through the forest to avoid some of it. We finally reached the Sporthotel Monte Pana; it had taken us 1:45 due to the ice, our attempted diversions and photo stops. It was a nice enough trail, but it was definitely not ‘all is good’ towards the end. Great views though.

We had lunch at the hotel, which was very busy. Bill had the polenta with cheese, I had spaghetti with buffalo mozzarella and basil cream - both good, but not outstanding (€56 with wine and a slice of near frozen Black Forest cake).

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Polenta with cheese
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Spaghetti with buffalo mozzarella and basil cream
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Black forest cake
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Busy place

After our autumn visit to Chiavenna and Domodossola I’d been looking forward to the food in Italy, but so far it wasn’t knocking my socks off.

After lunch we located and walked the partially sunny SunPana circular path and then watched some littlies get ski lessons; it was hilarious, free entertainment. The instructors had the patience of Job.

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Views from SunPana trail
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Free entertainment

Then it was back down to S. Cristina on the Monte Pana chairlift - just us again; in the shade again, cold again.

To be continued...

goingthere2 Jan 27th, 2024 03:48 PM

This a great report. Can’t wait to read more.

Sorry you had trouble finding the trails. We did some similar winter trekking in Alta Badia a few years back with no problems.

I’m interested in what kind of clothes you took if you’re willing to share, particularly your boots, pants and base layer.

Melnq8 Jan 28th, 2024 07:08 AM

goingthere2 -

Our usual winter packing consists of the following:

Fleece lined hiking pants (LL Bean, unfortunately they no longer carry the style I like)
Silk long underwear bottoms that can be worn under the fleece lined pants (or unlined pants) if necessary (neither of us used them)
Waterproof hiking boots
Wool socks (and silk sock liners for me so I could layer)
Traction cleats - we took two pairs each
Winter jackets - mine is water resistant, Bill's is Gortex, so his also served as a waterproof layer. Both have hoods which can be worn over winter hats as a second layer or extra wind protection
Gortex jacket (waterproof shell that can be worn over a fleece jacket, didn't use it this time).
Fleece jacket that can be worn separately or under the winter jacket (or Gortex jacket) as a second layer
Fleece neck gaitors
Fleece winter hats
Mittens/gloves
Hiking poles (seldom used this trip as our hiking was somewhat limited).

Bill had a long sleeve base layer or two, but I'm a year round short sleeve person; I tend to wear a fleece instead of long sleeves if I get a chill.

We both own nice big down coats, but they take up so much room in our luggage that we never take them. They'd have been nice a few times on this trip, but they'd also have been overkill for walking, so it's a balancing act.

We wore our winter hats pretty much all day every day, so we discovered they tend to slide up and expose the bottoms of our ears; I've ordered winter hats with ear flaps for next time.

We travel with 24" luggage, so packing winter gear can be a challenge, but smaller is better when using trains and buses.

I wish someone would make 4x4 luggage wheels.

Melnq8 Jan 28th, 2024 08:14 AM

Dec 11 -

Rain, snow and gloom were predicted for today; it was a good day for laundry.

My early research for this trip had revealed a lavanderia near the Hotel Oswald in Selva, so we loaded up the laundry, got on a bus and headed that way.

We found the place, clearly a laundromat in a previous life, but now deserted. I asked the desk attendant at the Hotel Oswald if they’d moved, but alas, they’d closed permanently.

I asked him if there was another lavanderia in the area; he looked online and referred us to Dolomiti Wash at Strada Johann Baptist Purger 30...in Ortisei. Well crap: no idea how I’d missed this, right there online, plain as day.

So, it was back to the bus stop, where we waited quite a while for a bus to Ortisei - two buses were due minutes apart, but neither came - and then both appeared at the same time. We were seeing a trend with the buses; late, all at once, or none at all. But free! We’d also encountered many non-working ticket scanners and non-working display screens on buses. Fortunately, we were now familiar with the landmarks around some of the bus stops.

We got off at the St. Antonius stop in Ortisei, and then followed my phone GPS, which took us on quite the convoluted meander via a busy road and through an underpass, but we found Dolomiti Wash - and better yet - it was open.

After figuring out the payment system, we spent the next 90 minutes washing and drying one load of laundry; 8.50 to wash, 3.50 per 15 minutes to dry (took 30 minutes). Success.

Laundry is often a challenge on long trips. I try to find accommodation with washing machines, but I’m not always successful.

Note: Dolomiti Wash is situated mere steps from the Sarteur bus stop.

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We found our way back to the town center without walking those busy streets; it was quiet on this Monday - a lot of places were closed and it was too early for the Christmas markets, so it felt entirely different than before.

We wandered through town looking for lunch, choosing Vedl Mulin very near the St. Antonius bus stop - one of the few open restaurants. It was busy, which was either a good sign, or a sign that nothing else was open. We both chose the risotto - with mushrooms for Bill, with veg for me.

We were presented with plates of risotto that looked a bit like cat sick. A bowl would have been more appropriate - and possibly more appealing. It was okay, but a smallish serving and nothing special (€64.50 with ½ liter of house red, sparkling water, 2.50 each coperto and a beer for Bill while I wandered the shops...only to find all were closed between 12-3). It was our most expensive meal so far, and the most disappointing.

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Vedl Mulin
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Wandering quiet Ortisei
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Ortisei

We briefly considered going to Bolzano for the Christmas market, but figured that between waiting for the bus, the one hour each way journey and the cold ick weather, it wasn’t worth the effort. As we stood waiting for our bus back to S. Cristina, an employee was telling many of those waiting that their bus wasn’t coming due to technical issues.

Our adventure on Italian trains and buses will resume tomorrow as we head for San Candido in the Tre Cime Natural Park, on the border with Austria.

To be continued...

goingthere2 Jan 28th, 2024 10:29 AM

Thanks for the packing info Mel. Very helpful.

Melnq8 Jan 28th, 2024 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by goingthere2 (Post 17530258)
Thanks for the packing info Mel. Very helpful.

I forgot to mention that we also take sun hats.

Ingo Jan 28th, 2024 12:17 PM

It is quite a surprise to me that the food in South Tyrol (Italy!) was only ok mostly. Somehow I had the idea of delicious meals there ...

And the bus system ... well, no surprise there!

Melnq8 Jan 28th, 2024 12:29 PM

I was surprised about the food too Ingo. Maybe my expectations were too high.

Melnq8 Jan 28th, 2024 01:34 PM

Dec 12 -

We said arrivederci to our hostess, and took the 9:19 am bus (360) from S. Cristina towards Brixen to Waidbruck, a journey of about 40 minutes, the bus blissfully quiet. In Waidbruck we hunkered down in the small shelter on the train platform, hiding from the cold wind, while we awaited our tardy train to Franzensfeste, so named for the Franzensfeste Fortress.

Once in Franzensfeste we caught a train to San Candido/Innichen. The train practically empty; our entire journey free with the Sud Tirol Mobil card, which was never checked.

We’d booked an apartment at Silvia Residence, which is part of Hotel Post, and they’d told us to call them upon arrival for a free pick up from the bahnhof. We did, and they were there within minutes. Sweet.

We were offered a new Sud Tirol Mobil card which we happily accepted; the card is good for 7 days; our card from S. Cristina would be expiring soon.

Very nice place this. Our apartment was spacious, clean, well equipped and came with an infrared sauna in the bedroom. There was an elevator, a big shower and a bidet. We were offered the services of the Hotel Post should we need them.

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And the best bit - location! Situated right across the street from the tourist office, the pedestrian square and the Christmas Market. We found three grocery stores within a five minute walk, plentiful coffee shops and cafes and a bus stop right in front.

Our apartment was quiet for the most part, but above the Café Silvia, so we would occasionally hear music, but it’d stop early in the evening.

Hungry, we went out looking for lunch, stumbling upon Bar Café Kastro, which turned out to be a very good choice. Bill chose the polenta with cheese and speck, I had a very good spicy salami pizza, washed down with Aperol Spritzes and wine, Bill really liking the Kerner white, 46.

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Polenta with cheese
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Spicy salami pizza

We then walked through town; it was love at first sight. Quiet, calm and pretty with lots of interesting shops, bakeries and a few wine bars that we’d need to check out.

It also seemed to be predominately owned by the Wachtler family, whose name was found on hotels and apartments, (including ours), shops, bistros, cafes and even a museum.

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Hay bale couch, San Candido
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San Candido
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San Candido

I went out later to explore some more while Bill read. I picked up a map at the tourist office, wandered the streets and zeroed in on the cozy looking Bistro Botanic Wachtler, which we returned to later (ridding my coin purse of 19 pieces of shrapnel, €8.50 for one glass of wine each).

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Wandering, San Candido
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Wandering, San Candido
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Wandering, San Candido
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San Candido
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San Candido

Afterwards we poked through a few Wachtler owned Christmas kiosks, then shared a pizza at Theatrecafe Central, which, as the name suggests, is housed in a former theatre. We had a nice chat with our waiter from Belarus, who brought us the wrong pizza - we didn’t mention it to him, we just ate it, not knowing what it was until we got the bill - a Delizia instead of a Diavola - no worries - €24 including €2 coperto each, sparkling water and a shared ¼ liter of wine (€4, wow).

We walked back to the apartment through the quiet streets, nicely decorated for Christmas.

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My soon-to-be favorite place
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San Candido
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San Candido
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San Candido
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San Candido

To be continued...

tripplanner001 Jan 28th, 2024 03:00 PM

San Candido looks like a perfect place, and not on the tourist circuit. How did you land on going there?

Paqngo Jan 28th, 2024 04:51 PM

Just got caught up on your wonderful report. San Candido does look pretty spectacular. We loved the Dolomites and want to return.

Ingo Jan 28th, 2024 11:27 PM

San Candido/Innichen is my kind of town! Wow, an apartment with your own sauna ... :-)

Adelaidean Jan 29th, 2024 12:26 AM

So glad you liked San Candido, Mel.
We had 8 nights there and could easily have stayed longer.
Just walking to nearby Sesto and Moos was a delight.
The lakes, the Drei Zinnen, the villages. I really would like to return.

Melnq8 Jan 29th, 2024 05:29 AM

Of all the places we visited this trip, San Candidio was our hands down favorite.

tripplanner - when this trip was first researched a few years ago, I spent a lot of time waffling on where to base, We were looking for two areas somewhat different from one another. We'd considrered Cortina d'Ampezzo as our second base, but I got the distinct impression that it was the St Mortiz of Italy (not a fan). After Ingo confirmed this, we switched gears.

We landed on San Candido with the help of Ingo and Adelaidean, who both know what we like - quiet and laidback.

We also considered availability of winter public transportation, etc.


If everyone says 'go to Cortina' that usually means it'll be too busy for our tastes, and that we'd probably rather visit as a day trip just to check it out from somewhere else.

In this case everyone said 'go to Orteisi' which told us we'd probably prefer S. Cristina or Selva. Which we did.

neckervd Jan 29th, 2024 11:42 AM

....and people for who Val Gherdeina is too touristy go to neigbouring Vilnoess Valley.

Melnq8 Jan 29th, 2024 12:02 PM

Thanks neckervd, I'll have to look that up.


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