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tedgale Apr 22nd, 2014 11:01 AM

Tedgale Trip Report: Portugal in April 2014 (with Easter in Amsterdam)
 
We traveled to Portugal this April, to get away from the last of the worst Canadian winter in a decade. Though we travel to Europe twice a year on average, it was a first visit to Portugal for us.

Since we arrived home only yesterday afternoon, I am still coping with jet lag. Therefore, this report will be written in instalments. I will start with tombstone information – how we flew, how we got around inside the country and where we stayed.

After a high-level overview of our trip, I plan to provide some specific advice and insights about travel in Portugal, based on our experience.

Depending on how much interest there is and how energetic I feel, I may continue with write-ups on specific sites and towns.

I will tell you the best things we saw, did and ate. This is not meant to be a blog and I will spare you the granular detail on what we did hour-by-hour.

Before I get deep into the dull facts on flights and room rates, I will give you a taste of the pleasures we uncovered in Portugal. I hope this will motivate you to stick with the preliminary throat clearing about logistics:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=938fb6b1b0

tedgale Apr 22nd, 2014 11:08 AM

FLIGHT INFO:

Mon 07APR
Ottawa to Toronto on Westjet
Toronto to Paris on Air France

Tue 08APR
Paris CDG to Lisbon on Air France
Pick up car at Lisbon airport – Europcar rental, booked through AutoEurope

Sat 19APR
Late morning flight from Lisbon to Amsterdam on KLM

Mon 21APR
We took the KLM 9:35 morning flight from Amsterdam to Toronto. We cleared customs and immigration in Toronto airport, then rechecked our luggage for our onward Westjet flight to Ottawa, arriving home at 2:58 PM.

Bottom lines on flights:
With one reservation, which I outline below, we were happy with all our flights.

Flights were generally on time and went smoothly. We had a one-hour delay in departing AMS because of a problem with water pressure in the onboard restrooms. The pilot was able to make up most, not all, of the time. The resulting delay was immaterial to us anyway: We had abundant time to catch our onward connection from Toronto to Ottawa.

I am increasingly tempted back to Air Canada because of their much improved service performance and the convenience of their direct flights from Ottawa to Frankfurt and London. But for most destinations in continental Europe, KLM/ AF is hard to beat for price (including free “open jaws” bookings and a free stopover in Paris or Amsterdam) and for convenient routing options.

On one of KLM/ AF’s frequent seat sales, we got tickets Ottawa Toronto CDG Lisbon and Lisbon AMS (2 night stopover at an AMS airport hotel) and AMS Toronto Ottawa for about $825 Canadian. That is less than $750 US.

We generally take a one-night stopover in Amsterdam on the way home. This allows us to spend a few hours in a city we enjoy, then take the 9:35 morning flight AMS to Toronto. We are home in Ottawa by 3 PM local time. A big selling point for us.

tedgale Apr 22nd, 2014 11:10 AM

MY CAVEAT ABOUT OUR FLIGHTS:

Something to be wary of when dealing with regional code-share partners: We were able to check in online for our Westjet flight on the WJ website but were unable to check in there for the Air France flight. Nor could we check in online on the AF website.

We went straight to the WJ counter when we got to Ottawa airport but were chagrined to find that the seats we had chosen months in advance for our outbound flight YYZ-CDG had somehow been arbitrarily changed. We were seated further back and a couple of rows apart.

The Westjet agent in Ottawa airport was able to print the boarding passes but was unable to get into the AF system to try to reclaim our seats. We knew that AF would be unable to do anything by the time we got to Toronto, since we’d have only 90 minutes before flight time – by that hour, only random middle seats are available.

In the end it all worked out once we got into the plane. With some rearranging of seats with nearby passengers - members of a family that wanted to sit together but had been separated – we ended up with three seats for the two of us. And I found I actually preferred being in the rear of the plane – much quieter at night.

We have not had this problem, as far as I can recall, when flying out of Toronto with KLM. Seat choice (in Economy/Coach class) is a big enough deal for us that we may have to avoid flying AF out of Toronto in future.

Nikki Apr 22nd, 2014 11:25 AM

Hi Ted, looking forward to hearing about Portugal, which I really enjoyed.

Elizabeth_S Apr 22nd, 2014 11:56 AM

Looking forward to this!

tedgale Apr 22nd, 2014 12:49 PM

CAR RENTAL:

We always rent through AutoEurope, generally by researching online and then calling their 1-800 number in Portland ME to deal with a real person. Their agents are very well informed - in our experience, anyway - and have lots more information at their fingertips than I can find online. For example, they were able to confirm that Europcar has a desk in the main terminal and stores its cars in the parking garage next door. Some of the smaller rental firms are located off-site, requiring some shuttle arrangement.

Dealing with an on-site agency was a great plus, especially when returning the car before we headed into Lisbon. From the garage, we were literally steps from the entrance to the Metro, which we took downtown with all our luggage – a deceptively convenient entry point to a subterranean adventure that I would not repeat.

Some bottom lines about our car rental:

1. I had read online that Europcar should be avoided because of the long lineup to pick up the rental. The line was a bit long – but I have seen worse.

2. We rented a compact Fiat Punto – manual, 4 door. It lacked pick up but was otherwise more than adequate. We two adults travel with one 23 inch suitcase apiece, plus a shoulder bag each. The trunk was spacious and we never felt cramped.

3. The barebones price for a week’s rental was low, about $200 Canadian. I had read that CDW charges on Portuguese rentals can be usurious. Wisely or not, we relied instead on the insurance coverage on the driver’s credit card.

4. I had also been warned to check the car for any damage and to record it minutely, as allegations of minor damage are a frequent source of disputes in Portugal. I could see that they do indeed focus on minor scrapes and mars: the newly cleaned car had loads of tiny marks made with a yellow grease pencil to highlight existing damage.

The man who conveyed the car to us went over it very carefully and recorded every blemish. I started out photographing the blemishes he noted on his printed form. Most were barely visible. After he reached 20 or so, I gave up.

When we returned the car, a different man went through the same process but in a very speedy, even offhand manner. He pronounced the car to be just as delivered to us and congratulated us on our stewardship of their property!

5. I knew that we would need a transponder in the car, to record our use of toll roads. Europcar charges 1.50 E per day for transponder rental and does not impose any administrative charge of its own for its role in remitting the charges to the national government. (The company charges the tolls to your credit card.)

We have not seen a bill so I cannot say how onerous the tolls are. But on some toll roads, the charge is signposted at the end of each segment of road and the charges we saw were moderate, given the distances traveled.

In theory, you can drive without a transponder. Your licence number is recorded by a camera when you enter and leave a motorway. You then have five days to go to a public office (or perhaps a post office) to pay what you owe. But there is a lag time of 48 hours before your information is logged into their computer system. So you must present yourself, probably on multiple occasions if you rent for a week or more, and always with very strict timeframes: no sooner than 48 hours but before five working days.

No thanks.

6. We drove cross-country a lot and stayed in some out-of-the-way places. I am the navigator. Another poster here has said he felt he really needed GPS in Portugal.

I am not a GPS fan: I don’t need or want someone whispering commands at me. And I think over-reliance on GPS is robbing some people – some, not all – of any ability to navigate from maps and their natural environment. But I did find it very useful to upload on a tablet a (Google) map for the roads we’d use that day. Even without WiFi access, the map can be enlarged and shrunk and the GPS location function (generally) continued to pinpoint our location on the map throughout the day.

I only wish I had brought our charging cord, which plugs into the car’s cigarette lighter.

7. I found a very useful website with information on car rental pick up and drop off at airports and train stations throughout Europe. Here is their entry on car rental return at Lisbon airport. It describes how to reach the airport from the south and west – i.e. from the downtown side. The approach would be somewhat different if you were driving to the airport from the north, as we were:
http://www.carjet.com/blog/returning...lisbon-airport

I found the signs on the airport property quite confusing. When returning the car, we needed the help of a local squad car, which stopped when it saw us pulled over in an odd spot. What confused me further is that there are actually two facades to the airport. One is primarily for departures; around the corner is the one for arrivals. I was only familiar with the arrivals façade; when we drove in from the north on the A1, I found myself facing a vaguely familiar building – but no garage, no metro entrance and so on. Disorienting.

BTW, the nearest petrol station is a BP station at the last roundabout before the airport when arriving from downtown – which, logically, is the first roundabout you’ll see when exiting the airport from the airport garage. I saw this BP station had the dismaying words “24/7” posted outside. This often means that the station is not manned and requires you to use European bank cards – but will not, IME, accept North American credit cards, even those with a chip. Happily, this BP station is also a bar-café, so it was staffed even during the hours of lunch and the siesta and presumably late into the evening. And they do take cash.

8. Finally, a word on Portuguese roads and drivers. The toll motorways are beautiful, superbly maintained – and empty. There are many second-level roads that are motorways in all but name. The average highway – even national (N) roads – will be frustratingly slow, however, if it comes anywhere near a town. We tried to take backroad shortcuts for variety but finally gave it up – driving twice as far on the motorway was actually faster and probably safer, too.

We found roadway manners were less of an issue than we had expected. The drivers are fast but – on the motorways at least – they are very consistent and quite courteous.. On smaller roads, the main problem is truck drivers, who can be bullies and daredevils. And no one gives way, on narrow village streets.

opaldog Apr 22nd, 2014 02:45 PM

Looking forward to reading about Lisbon

tedgale Apr 22nd, 2014 02:46 PM

WHERE WE STAYED:

Our accommodations were a high point of the trip. After picking up our rental car, we spent a week in four rural zones: the Alentejo region SE of Lisbon, Ribatejo region and the closely related (and adjacent) Douro and Minho regions. I will describe them in turn but here is the tombstone info:

Nights 1-2:
Imani Country House hotel
Quinta de Montemuro
7000-223 (Nossa Senhora de) Guadalupe, near Evora
Tel : (35) 1 266 782 021

For luxurious country living (donkeys in residence) with a distinctly hip, modern vibe, you can’t do much better than this inn just outside Evora, one of the little architectural jewels of the Alentejo region:
http://www.imani.pt/index.php?option...emid=4&lang=en

Night 3:
Hotel Villa Batalha
Rua D. Duarte I, 248
2440-415 Batalha - Portugal
Tel : (35) 1 244 240 400

As a base for exploring the big-three monastic sites of Alcobaca, Batalha and Tomar, we chose this brand new and very comfortable “design” hotel just moments away from the Batalha monastery:
http://www.hotelvillabatalha.com/en/

Nights 4-5:
Quinta da Pacheca
Cambres, 5100-424 Lamego
Tel : (35) 1 254 313 228

Also known as The Wine House hotel, this property is a luxurious combination of wine estate, fine restaurant and sumptuous accommodation - with views across the Douro River:
http://www.quintadapacheca.com/en/Qu...The-Hotel.aspx

Nights 6-7 :
Pousada de Guimarães/ Pousada de Santa Marinha
Largo Domingos Leite de Castro
Lugar da Costa 4810-011 Guimarães
Tel: (35) 1 253 511 249

This pousada, now managed by the Pestana Group, is a magnificent former monastery perched high above the pretty, moderate-sized city of Guimaraes:
http://www.pousadas.pt/historic-hote...ages/home.aspx

For our four nights in Lisbon, we rented a spacious ground-floor studio at Travessa Joao de Deus, 10. This is in the Chiado district but right on the edge of the Bairro Alto neighbourhood. Its nearest neighbour of note is the church of Sao Roque; the landmark Igreja do Carmo is a few minutes' walk away.

The rental agency was Fado Flats, whose office is directly across from the apartment. Here is the link to a page of photos of the studio:
http://www.fadoflats.pt/index.php?la...=detalhe&id=16

misha2 Apr 22nd, 2014 03:14 PM

Love the hotels you chose!! Just starting to plan a trip and look forward to more.

tedgale Apr 22nd, 2014 03:30 PM

They all were nice but the Imani was the hands-down winner as best bargain. In April, which is often a rainy month, they offered a 2 for 1 deal: Stay two nights, pay their one-night "rack rate".

We had a glorious room with private terrace, a fine buffet breakfast, fluffy robes, attentive service and no interruption but birdsong.

For 75 Euros a night.

yestravel Apr 22nd, 2014 03:45 PM

Looking forward to reading your TR. We leave for Portugal in a couple weeks. How far from Evora was the Imani?

tedgale Apr 22nd, 2014 05:46 PM

It is about 10 minutes by road. Very close to an interesting site of prehistoric cromlechs (erect stones, like a mini Stonehenge). There are cromlechs and menhirs in abundance across the region. This seems to have something to do with the latitude and the angle of the moon in those latitudes:

"The countryside around Evora is rich with megaliths of all kinds. This region of Portugal offers some of the biggest and the best sites in Iberia.

"There are only two latitudes in which the Moon's maximum declination is the same as the latitude, meaning that at its maximum elongation it goes through the zenith (directly overhead). These two latitudes are 38˚ 331 N (Almendres), and 51° 10' N (Stonehenge).

"Recent discoveries of astronomical alignments between sites, support the idea that the Evora was important in prehistory..."

In the pool area at the Imani, they have erected rocks in imitation of the nearby cromlech. Sounds cheesy but it is quite appealing. As everything is, in this very well run property.

I don't want to anticipate my fuller description, which I will write tomorrow, but here is a shot of our room at this lovely place:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...8&l=aceba2d769

tedgale Apr 22nd, 2014 06:17 PM

Jumping totally out of sequence ....

I just posted to another thread (started by yestravel) about Lisbon restaurants. So I figured I might as well post my Lisbon restaurant list now.

Then I will revert to my discussion of where we stayed.
_______________

On the level of pure cuisine, I was quite impressed by Cantinho do Alvillez ( I can see how he earned a Michelin star for his main restaurant) though the atmosphere seemed a little anxious and dull -- as though Lisbon residents had saved up their Euros and were trying to make them stretch (at what to us N Americans did not seem like an expensive place at all)

A food blogger recently declared their battered and fried haricot beans were one of the "must eat" dishes of Lisbon. I had them and they are just that good!

Another place we enjoyed was the newly opened tapas bar at the "iconic" Tagide, very close to C do A. From 7 to 8 PM weekdays, order one dish of tapas for 4 Euros and get a free glass of wine, with a killer view over the city.

For deft service and quite nice cooking at moderate prices, we would recommend Sacramento, near the Igreja do Carmo.

Here is my full list, which comprises ONLY places near our Chiado rental apartment:

1. Cantinho do Alvillez: Rua Duques de Bragança 7, Phone:+351 21 199 2369 Hours: •12:30 – 3:00 pm, 7:30 pm – 12:00 am http://cantinhodoavillez.pt/?lang=en

2. Tagide: Largo da Academia Nacional de Belas Artes 18 e 20, Phone 213 404 010
E-mail [email protected] Site http://www.restaurantetagide.com

Tágide occupies an aristocratic building. Its main dining room exudes a certain charm with its delightful Portuguese tiling. Traditional cuisine with a modern touch. Meal prices Menu: 18€/ 42€ - Carte: 23€/39€

Tágide, one of the most emblematic restaurants in Lisbon, have recently opened a new outlet – Tágide Wine & Tapas Bar – Enjoy a wide selection of tapas and appetizers, typically Portuguese but with a gourmet touch, having prices ranging between € 4.50 and € 9.00.

From Tuesday to Friday, the Tágide Wine & Tapas Bar offers a Lunch Menu at € 12.50 which includes a soup, a tapas selection chosen by the chef, one drink (glass of red or white wine, mineral water or soda), custard tart and coffee. View over Lisbon! http://restaurantetagide.com/download/MenuTapasBar.pdf

3. Restaurante Carmo: Largo do Carmo, 11, Phone: 213 460 088
Small plates meal in chic atmosphere very near the flat - useful in case of rain or fatigue

4. Lisboa Carmo Hotel: Rua da Oliveira ao Carmo (Largo do Carmo)
Phone 21 326 47 10 Site http://www.lisboacarmohotel.com

In very same area is this small, simple restaurant. Meal prices Menu: 10€/ 17€ Carte approx.: 25€ Cuisine: Traditional

5. Sacramento. Calcada do Sacramento 40-46, Ph. 21 342 05 72

Trip Advisor rates it #28 in the city. Tourists rave. Very near our flat. Medium-pricey. Same owner as Restaurant Carmo. We liked it quite a bit.

6. Jardim das Cerejas Calcada Sacramento 36, (Baixa) Phone: +351 213469308

A cheap vegetarian place to keep in reserve, it is near Baixa\Chiado metro station: (Take Calçada Sacramento, northwest of the station)
http://www.jardimdascerejas.com/

7. Taberna da Rua das Flores Rua das Flores 103 Open weekdays 11:00 am – 12:00 midnight Phone 351 21 347 9418 No reservations. Well reviewed. Copious and inexpensive.

Hip friends also recommended:
8. Restaurante 560 (www.restaurante560.com) Rua das Gáveas 78 +351 21 346 8317
9. In Belem is Descobre, http://www.descobre.com.pt/ 65/69 rua Bartolomeu Dias Belem
10. The Old Pharmacy Wine Inn, www,theoldpharmacy.pt is on Rua Diario de Noticias 73 - 83, Bairro Alto

di2315 Apr 22nd, 2014 11:46 PM

Very interesting, tedgale - I look forward to following the rest of your report. We are off to Lisbon for the first time in August.
Di

sandralist Apr 23rd, 2014 12:10 AM

Hi Ted,

Did you eat at every place on the full list or was this the list you took with you and only ate at those you recommended?

The atmosphere at most Michelin star restaurants is anxious and dull -- at best! It is rare to find an exception, and the dour atmosphere of these places happens in flush countries as well as those suffering austerity.

Micheline Apr 23rd, 2014 04:01 AM

Welcome home Tedgale. Sorry about the weather. Should be better today. Always love your reports.

tedgale Apr 23rd, 2014 05:55 AM

Snadralist: The list is what I researched and drew up before we went.

We ate only at Cantinho do Alvillez, Tagide's tapas bar (next door to the main restaurant) and Sacramento.

By that point in the trip, I was getting fatigued with dining out every night, so a couple of nights we ate in the apartment, whose kitchen was quite well equipped.

My favourite Portuguese dish, unobtainable in Ottawa, is morcela (like boudin noir or blood sausage) cooked with Delicious apples and onions. We had that with a salad of arugula, cherry tomatoes and poached salmon. Served an Alentejo red, I think, and white port over ice as a cocktail.

The salmon was overkill - I was stuffed.

Cantinho do Alvillez is supposed to be the bistro version of Alvillez's signature starred restaurant. So I was surprised at how subdued it seemed.

The only people who seemed fully to be enjoying themselves were two very pretty young women from NYC (as the whole room learned) who, like, swapped complaints about, like, men, life and work in a nasal Quackspeak.

But our meal of small plates was of a remarkable subtlety, invention and flavour. And not expensive, in NA terms. I would certainly like to explore C do A again another time.

tedgale Apr 23rd, 2014 06:01 AM

Here are some photos from Cantinho do Alvillez:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...1&l=a05e020957

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...2&l=74f2987548

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...0&l=e58361bc3b

tedgale Apr 23rd, 2014 06:05 AM

...And some photos of food and drinks at Happy Hour at Tagide's tapas bar. My notes read:

Happy Hour at hip Tagide. Everyone goes for the view.
In characteristic fashion, Happy Hour doesn't start until 7 PM. White wine and tapas: Chicken liver terrine w/ 4 kinds of bread for R, 2 dozen small clams in broth for me.

Wine and food for two with a good tip, an incredible 10 Euros

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...0&l=96b0c959ba

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...7&l=9d8f0f2fa6

tedgale Apr 23rd, 2014 07:13 AM

NOTES ON THE PLACES WE STAYED:

Imani Country House: This is a seven-room inn, a conversion of farm outbuildings from circa 1900. It stands in open, hilly grounds up a rutted dirt road from the tiny, featureless village of Guadalupe. You park in the orange grove next to the house – I regularly plucked oranges to nibble. The owner, whom we never saw, lives on-site in the original farm house.

Each room is different and is a combination of hip modern décor and funky relics from the past. In our huge bathroom, there were three old sewing machines displayed on a series of shelves. High ceilings, exposed beams, a woodstove with wood supplied, if you want it. Access to the rooms is from your screened-off terrace, where there are comfortable chairs and a table.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...0&l=0a3600d7fc

For some reason, we never did get the WiFi to work – I ended up using the free hotspot maintained by the local government outside their office in Evora.

We did not use the pool, though it was open. Lovely, well groomed grounds – there was much we left unexplored in this extensive property.

The breakfast is served in a huge, renovated hangar-like space, which also has a sitting area with fireplace, a billiard table (I think) and a grand piano. The copious if not overly original breakfast is normally served from 9:30 am, though they brought someone in to serve us earlier, at my request.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...0&l=c8c3a161a9

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...0&l=38fb48bf6d

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...2&l=e022387cbf

In season, they operate a restaurant on site. In the off season, it is closed, though we were offered snacks or a light meal if we wanted it.

Service is of a high standard. The few staff we dealt with were young, very deferential but still friendly. We both felt quite spoiled. It was a very good choice for jetlagged travelers who wanted to recuperate. And the off-season price of 75 Euros was an exceptional bargain.

When researching, I looked into two nearby pousadas, at Estremoz and at Vila Vicosa. We also considered staying our first night close to the Lisbon airport, at the magnificently located pousada at Palmela.

By coincidence we walked by both the Estremoz and Vila Vicosa pousadas during our rambles through the towns east of Evora. We peeked into their grand and well maintained gardens and even spoke to the very eager young man at the front desk in Estremoz. Any of these would be an interesting choice for someone looking for a historic property in or close to a town.

Hotel Villa Batalha: As I mentioned above, we needed a place for one night in the middle of our visit to the big three monasteries – Alcobaca, Batalha and Tomar. I had seen Leiria recommended as a good launch pad for this itinerary but we did not want to stay in a large town or city. Batalha was a good choice: a small, well-serviced town with a large, brand new hotel in a quiet setting facing a main street.

Apart from the monastery, which dominates the town, there is little of note in Batalha but it provides a pleasant, open setting.

The hotel, which has spa facilities but seems more of a businessman’s hotel, is spotless. Our bathroom was very large and quite luxurious. Our room was a bit characterless but had some nice touches, including a small glass-walled balcony. Our room was perfectly quiet but next time, I might ask for a room at the back, just to have a view of their garden.
There were very few other people staying there and the sound-proofing is very good (no sound in the room of the rather loud jazz that was playing in the hallways)

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=b9b27ae49f

The breakfast, served in a large room overlooking the garden, was much like the one at Imani – copious, nicely presented but not overly original. Decaf coffee, in particular, seems to be unknown in Portuguese hotels, so I went without until we were able to buy some in a Lisbon supermarket.

This hotel room with breakfast was a good bargain, at 78 Euros. Had we stayed the next night, when occupancy was presumably even lower, we could have had a junior suite for the same price!

tedgale Apr 23rd, 2014 09:31 AM

There seems to be some problem with opening those individual photos I posted above. I don't know what I can do to fix that. I think it may be related to the fact that they are officially part of a larger album of Mobile Uploads, to which Facebook does not want to give the general public access.

I just added some shots to the Batalha album -- which DOES open, it seems -- to show you the dinner we had at a local road-house restaurant, called Perola do Fetal. That link, once again, is:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=b9b27ae49f

Nikki Apr 23rd, 2014 09:34 AM

Sounds great.

I can not get your photos, the links say, "This content is currently unavailable."

tedgale Apr 23rd, 2014 07:44 PM

Nikki, is that also true for the link that appears juin my 1:31 PM post, ie right above your last post?

It opens for me, even when I am logged out of Facebook.

tedgale Apr 23rd, 2014 07:45 PM

Sorry, shd read: "appears in my 1:31 PM post"

Nikki Apr 24th, 2014 03:20 AM

That last one does open.

I was posting the same time as you were, didn't see your post about the problem opening photos.

tedgale Apr 24th, 2014 05:22 AM

Nikki: it should be fixed now with the other photos too -- I changed the privacy settings and that seemed to work.

From now on, I will set up separate, dedicated "Public" FB albums for groups of photos I want to share here.

sandy_b Apr 24th, 2014 01:06 PM

My two friends and I stayed in that exact same apartment when we went to Lisbon in mid-March . . . we loved it, the location, and our landlord, Mario. We stayed there four days and then picked up a car and went to Tomar, Fatima, and Porto. We also stayed in a great apartment in Porto for three nights. We had a fantastic trip and never had a bad (or even mediocre) meal. Our weather was great, too.

Can't wait for you to post more about your trip.

Sandy (in Denton)

tedgale Apr 24th, 2014 02:58 PM

I had to head up to our lake house to check it out after the Cdn winter, so I have been remiss in posting. I will move quickly to my "Top Ten Things to Do in Portugal". But first a friend is coming to dinner, an invitation I had forgot I had issued.

sandy: Mario is a great representative of Fado Flats -- very obliging, very relaxed yet completely reliable.

We did not visit Porto because we decided to confine ourselves to smaller centres. Just a personal preference.

Tomar was one of the most astonishing and enriching experiences of our whole trip and perhaps of any recent trip to Europe.

With Alcobaca and Batalha, we had the architectural Trifecta of Portuguese monasteries. Superb.

tedgale Apr 25th, 2014 08:20 AM

Quinta da Pacheca: A wine estate, with tastings and tours, now offers luxurious accommodation in a recent addition to the original historic building complex. The public areas are extremely stylish, the bedrooms well fitted with all conveniences. We had a standard room and breakfast, for 100 Euros/ night. Sitting space was in short supply but there was no reason to stay in the room when the public sitting areas were so lovely and so empty. Superior rooms are much bigger and have views over the vineyards. Buffet breakfasts in the airy, apple-green restaurant were as good as any we had on this trip. We had dinner one night and were not disappointed: good food and service at a surprisingly fair price.

The quinta is located on the south side of the Douro River, close to the river itself. It is formally part of Lamego, the town about 8 or so miles away. Much nearer, though, is Peso da Regua (usually just called Regua) on the opposite bank of the Douro. Numerous good restaurants there, too, including a couple of quite chic and pricey ones. Overall, a very convenient and attractive centre for touring the Douro Valley.

Here is an album showing the Quinta da Pacheca, including our meals there, and the nearby Pousada Santa Marinha in Guimaraes, to which we moved for our final two nights before hitting Lisbon:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=e279cc214a

Pousada de Guimaraes: An 18th century monastery, taken over by the state and turned into a pousada in 1985. It sits in large grounds on a very hilly site high above the charming small city of Guimaraes. This 30 year old reno lacked the hip edge of the Quinta and the Imani, but the grand scale of the building, the beautifully maintained original details and the pleasantness of the staff made up for the slightly old-fashioned style. We were checked in my a very young male intern who told us that his dream was to land a permanent job in the pousada, once his training period was over. He seemed too tiny to lug our two suitcases up to our room but that is just what he did: we took the elevator and he sprinted the stairs.

The rooms are in a wing of what were once the individual cells of the residents. Our room was large enough and well equipped. The bathroom was fitted out in granite: the countertop of the large vanity was a piece of solid granite roughly 2.5 inches thick.
Our room looked out over the hillside garden but those across the hall had a downhill view – a panorama of the entire city.

Breakfasts were fine – the breakfast buffets are pretty standard in all the places we stayed. Fatigued, we had dinner in the hotel restaurant one night. The food was good, though not remarkable. The place clearly has certain pretensions to excellence, which meant rather more hovering by staff than I prefer. The bill for the dinner, partly because of the pricey wine list, was much higher than we normally paid – about 95 Euros with tip.

We had a more memorable meal the next night at Historico in Guimaraes: the album shows what we ate. What it does not capture is the lively bustle of the full-up restaurant, the speed and skill of the very capable waiters and the overall feeling of being in the hippest spot in this stylish northern city.

tedgale Apr 25th, 2014 08:44 AM

OK, after a lot of throat-clearing I can finally start to tell you about our trip. Rather than give you a day-by-day account, I thought I'd give you my Top Ten items from our trip.

After that -- if anyone is still reading -- I may provide a few final insights and recommendations drawn from our experience.

TOP TEN THINGS ABOUT PORTUGAL:

In no particular order, here they are:

1. The amazing motorway system

2. The peaceful agricultural plains and pretty towns of the Alentejo region

3., 4. and 5. The medieval-and-Manueline monastery sites of Alcobaca, Batalha and Tomar -- Tomar being easily the most amazing of all, for its combination of setting, gardens, architecture and huge scale.

6. The upper Douro Valley, home of Port production, a visually stunning landscape with a new delight at every turn

7. The Bom Jesus church outside Braga, a short drive from pretty Guimaraes

8. Sintra, just 40 minutes from Lisbon: Though we actually skipped the Pena Palace (just not my period) we had a full, full day seeing the Palacio Nacional and the Moorish castle

9. Belem, in suburban Lisbon: The monastery of the Jeronimos was a great as I could have hoped and the Torre de Belem far more interesting; the local Cultural Centre's art museum was an amazing and unexpected last-minute addition to our program

10. The national Tile Museum (Museu do Azulejo) on the east side of Lisbon was a mind-blower that deserves to be as well known as the very overcrowded Belem sites.

I'll start now to describe them:

taconictraveler Apr 26th, 2014 06:12 PM

So glad to see this, Ted. We first went to Portugal in 1984, and had our photo taken at Bom Jesu on our Anniversary: May 1.

It was the first of many trips to Portugal, when we were so glad that we took the advice of our friend then living in Lisbon. He said to go north, so we went to Tomar, Lamego, Guinarais, and all the way to Valenca do Minho, then back thru to see Alcobaca and Batalha.

Very rewarding, lovely country.... Haven't been back in over 5 years - so you are giving me a real treat. (And the motorways have certainly improved tremendously!)

tedgale Apr 27th, 2014 04:47 AM

Thanks for your kind comments. Here's the 1st of my Top Ten:

1. The motorway system:
I have a 1971 Michelin map, 1:1000000 scale, that shows the main roads of Portugal and Spain. When you look at this artifact, you are looking at the road system of 500 or more years ago – the links between important towns of the Middle Ages; and the roads leading to and from Spain, the dominant regional economy, historic enemy and frequent invader.

In 1971, there was about 30 miles of motorway in the entire country – all of it around Lisbon and Porto. Today, there are motorways everywhere – even in places where you cannot imagine anyone wanting or needing a motorway. When we took the A1 from Porto to Lisbon, we realized (when traversing a peaceful rural region) that there was another parallel motorway only two or three miles away.

It doesn’t take long to see how Portugal got itself into its present economic mess: their infrastructure spending could bankrupt a much larger country.

(Portugal has a dwindling population of somewhere between 10 and 11 million. Apart from the two big cities of Lisbon and Porto, there is no city larger than 200,000 people.)

Aside from the motorway system itself, there is a network of limited-access semi-motorways, marked on maps as IP roads, that are free. And in flatter areas such as the Alentejo, some of the N roads are very straight, empty and fast. These are a direct competition to the toll-based motorway system, which many Portuguese now cannot afford to use. Small wonder then that the motorways we drove on were virtually empty. Sometimes the nearest car was a mile ahead of us or behind us.

Some of these motorways traverse landscapes that – especially in the mountainous North – can only be described as “thrilling”. Viaducts cut straight across vertiginous chasms and span broad rivers. Mountainsides have been pared away. Where that was not feasible, tunnels have been poked through the mountains. All of this looks brand new and all of it is being maintained in pristine condition. I’ve never seen anything like it, except in Turkey (and there the motorway system is far less extensive). Outside our Maritime provinces (where road construction has served a political and economic purpose similar to Portugal’s) Canadian roads look quite third-world by comparison.

The consequence was that driving, instead of being a chore, was often a highpoint of our day. I even got attached to our transponder, which identified our car to the toll machinery. On some (not all) motorways, the tolls are registered periodically as you drive, not just on entry and exit. The toll is signposted. As you pass under recording machinery, you hear your transponder sound a “ping”. I was as excited as a kid, waiting for that ping.

tedgale Apr 27th, 2014 06:57 AM

2. The Alentejo region:
Due east of Lisbon lies the predominantly rural Alentejo, which – as you proceed away from the coast – shifts from flat plains to rolling farmland and finally the mountains of the border with Spain.

We spent two nights outside Evora, the region’s major tourist centre. I wish now that we had budgeted twice that for this region. In particular, there are a number of outlying towns: Elvas, Monsaraz, Marvao – that we never had a hope of reaching.

We decided to focus on the main sites, Evora and Vila Vicosa, where I wanted to see the monmumental Palacio dos Duques de Braganca. Even in that narrow compass, we stumbled on little gems unknown to us through my research, such as the ruined castle at the heart of sleepy Alandroal. We were absolutely alone as we walked its ramparts.

Estremoz, a “white town” of this marble-rich region, was another surprise. Above a rather dull modern sprawl is a pristine historic centre. An open square is shared by the grand Pousada de Estremoz, a high, square marble tower, a magnificent cathedral, an open-fronted chapel with carved loggia. Apart from the man at the front desk of the pousada and some women arranging Easter flowers in the church, we were alone.

Evora is a hilly town with ancient walls and a disused historic aqueduct. Inside the walls is a tangle of streets, leading to its grand central square, the Praca do Giraldo, as well as a ruined Roman temple, the magnificent medieval cathedral (Se) and cloister and the town’s best known feature, the Chapel of Bones (which the locals do not promote and we did not trouble to visit). The presence of an ancient university ensures a youthful vibe in the town centre. Nearby are numerous prehistoric sites, known as the Megaliths circuit, with dolmens, menhirs and cromlechs; 150 sites have been recorded around Evora.

We ate twice in Evora: For fun, we tried the Taberna Tipica Quarta Feira, which serves a single no-options menu each night for 25 Euros, including wine. It was fine to try once, though we had an unexciting meal. Far better was Dom Joaquim, a handsome, mid-priced restaurant where I had some of the best octopus of the trip. There are many other fine (and some pricey) dining options in this popular town.

The Dukes of Braganca, who owned vast estates in the region, began construction of their Palace at Vila Vicosa in 1501. When a Duke became King in 1640, the town’s importance increased and many courtiers acquired property there. Though it's a small town, the public spaces of Vila Vicosa reflect its regal links and are disproportionately grand.

You must tour the palace with a guide. Incredibly enough, tours are given only in Portuguese and there are no printed materials provided, as is usual elsewhere, to help foreigners cope. We trudged from one magnificent room to another in a bit of a fog, as the guide poured forth a rapid stream of fact and anecdote that we could not follow. My favourite parts were those that needed no explanation, such as the huge kitchen with its 600 (or was it 6000?) burnished copper pots and pans, some of them large enough to bathe in. There is also an ornate private chapel in which young art students were sprawled out on the floor, drawing.

In addition to the palace and its nearby squares and streets, there is a separate hilltop castle precinct (the ducal home before the 1501 construction) with a fine church that is filled with azulejo tilework.

While my research had identified the must-see historic sites, I had not realized how pleasant and how absorbing the open countryside would be. Alentejo is the heartland of cork production. Everywhere we saw groves of the twisted trees, banded where the cork bark had been removed and was regenerating. Olive groves are another mainstay. But the premier Alentejano product is wine and every small village is surrounded, it seems, by vineyards. The full-bodied red wine is very good, by the way.

Alentejo is considered an arid region but after last winter’s endless rains, the fields and forests were all a rich emerald green. Seen in the full flood of Spring, the roadside woods were full of flowers – none of which I could readily identify. There were whole hillsides of what looked like wild roses – large shrubs covered with loose-petalled white blooms. There was a profusion of yellow spikes that looked like a smaller version of our native lupin. There were small pink-flowering shrubs and a pink groundcover. Oddly enough, we saw these only in Alentejo; nowhere in the North did we see anything like this profusion of natural colour.

MrsWally Apr 27th, 2014 11:33 AM

We are planning a trip to Portugal and are looking forward to your trip report!

tedgale Apr 27th, 2014 11:47 AM

Thanks.

I'll do the 3 monasteries next. This is getting a bit wordy and they are well documented elsewhere, so I will lump them together.

WhistlerNorth Apr 27th, 2014 02:42 PM

Great report Ted. I was in Turkey last spring and found your Turkey report very helpful. Just wondering Sandy_b if you can share your info on the Porto apartment you rented.

tedgale Apr 27th, 2014 02:55 PM

Thanks, WhistlerNorth. I was looking at that Turkey trip report yesterday, searching for a specific piece of information, and was surprised at how much we'd done and how self-assuredly expert my writing sounded!!!

The reality is that I felt very under-prepared before that trip. But everything seemed to fall into place once we got there. It was one of our best trips ever.

yestravel Apr 27th, 2014 03:29 PM

Landscape sounds beautiful. Can't wait to see. Having just been in Turkey last Fall I can relate to your comment on the roads.

tedgale Apr 27th, 2014 03:42 PM

I decided to put together quickly a photo album on the Alentejo sites and sights I mentioned in the paragraphs above.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=1b66af6f6d

The weather looks quite menacing in these photos!

In fact, we never got any rain and the temperatures were quite mild, despite overcast skies. And the sun did come out sometimes -- though not to the degree it did in the North and in Lisbon. We were very fortunate in our weather overall. Not one rainy day in our whole trip.

Nikki Apr 28th, 2014 10:25 AM

Great Alentejo pictures, we were in many of the same places.

I loved our dinner at Taberna Tipica Quarta Feira, one of the best of our trip. It was made more fun by the way we became hopelessly lost looking for it and by the chef's after-dinner banter with our Portuguese friends, but I remember the food as being quite good. Of course, since there is no choice and the menu must change every night, it is probably better some nights than others.


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