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bellastarr Apr 25th, 2006 09:44 AM

Standing-Room-Only "seats" on Airlines
 
I just read this article in the New York Times today about a proposal (So far it's proposed in Asian carriers only) to have a "standing-room-only" section where passengers would fly propped against a padded backboard and strpped in with a harness. Apparently this is intended as a way to fit more passengers in. The illustration showed this backboard thing that included arm rests and a food tray. The passenger is in what amounts to a standing position.

My question is, given all the debates about leg room, would any of you want to fly strapped to one of these backboards? Any thoughts?

Statia Apr 25th, 2006 09:47 AM

Not no, but heck no.

Maire Apr 25th, 2006 09:49 AM

No way, not ever.

Maire Apr 25th, 2006 09:50 AM

P.S. And we thought coach was bad?

FainaAgain Apr 25th, 2006 09:51 AM

I will fly standing only if they wrap me up like a mummy. Then I can start my own "the mummy returns" series.

P_M Apr 25th, 2006 09:51 AM

There's another thread about this in the Airlines forum.

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34794215

nytraveler Apr 25th, 2006 10:01 AM

How long are the flights? If it's a shuttle - lke NYC to Boston - why not? Tons of people have subway or bus commutes of 45 minutes or more where they stand the whole time. This couldn't be worse - at least no one is leaning on you or hitting you with their briefcase or backpack.

FainaAgain Apr 25th, 2006 10:10 AM

If seriously, I've heard they want to do it for Hawaii island hopping. (This was on TV, don't hold me responsible!)

GreenDragon Apr 25th, 2006 10:17 AM

Sorry, no. I can't stand for more than 5 minutes without my feet going numb *(very poor circulation), and 10 minutes or longer becomes agony. Walking, no problem -- but not standing.

I'll take the uncomfortable sardine can seats, thanks.

grantop Apr 25th, 2006 10:27 AM

I saw this on the Today Show this morning. I think I'll pass, thanks.

Curt Apr 25th, 2006 10:36 AM

Maybe they will supply pee tubes so they can just strap them in for the duration - no trips to the loo required!

JackOneill Apr 25th, 2006 10:40 AM



I don't know. I've flown on planes that had live chickens on board. Uncaged live chickens.
Standing up doesn't sound so bad.

Ziana Apr 25th, 2006 10:42 AM

I haven't laugh this hard sinse Faina gifted me with Vikings finding...OMGoodness Gracious!!! It is not one of those Tip The Pilot threads, is it? Pee tube? and poo bags? Awesome...but think about not having fat one sitting next to you...now he'll be probably squizzed next to you. I need a fresh air...thanks for the histerical laugh!!!

SeaUrchin Apr 25th, 2006 10:45 AM

hmmm not so bad. I was on a few planes in China where we had to walk between cartons of coke cans to get to our seats. I used one carton which was in the aisle next to my seat to rest my can of coke on. If I were strapped to a board it wouldn't have made much difference.

TexasAggie Apr 25th, 2006 10:47 AM

Perhaps for a short trip but I can't imagine doing this for more than an hour. I don't "sit still" well (never did even in grade school, LOL!) and at least you can wiggle around a lot in the seats. If you're strapped to a backboard I'd assume your mobility would be quite limited.

Ziana Apr 25th, 2006 10:48 AM

Unless you strapped with your feet off the floor...have they thought of that? HA?

Maire Apr 25th, 2006 10:49 AM

Heaven help us if this catches on--then coach seats will be considered first class and cost even more :)

Dayle Apr 25th, 2006 10:52 AM

How about if they just hang us from a noose around the neck? Then we could just swing "freely about the cabin."

gb944 Apr 25th, 2006 10:52 AM

You would have to go to the bathroom to sit down!

Poohgirl Apr 25th, 2006 11:13 AM

Not only heck no but hell no. Although as previously mentioned, if the price was right and it was a short flight (say Minneapolis to Chicago) I would consider it. But it would have to be a truly jaw-dropping price.

bennyb Apr 25th, 2006 11:17 AM

I would do it, if the flight wasn't too long. I don't like sitting in coach seats anyway, and I immediately get up and stand in the aisle whenever I'm allowed.

But if they cram so much more people onto the plane, where will their luggage go? Is there a weight problem, with more people and more luggage? I don't know about the logistics of doing it.

ilovetotravel29 Apr 25th, 2006 11:19 AM

Well, it was only proposed for short trips (not 8 hour trips across huge oceans), but if the price were right, I would go for it.

As long, of course, that I was able to unlock the harness and move about after the seatbelt light was turned off.

I liken it to standing up on a plane ride to Vegas or LA....if it makes the price of my ticket go to half, then I would go for it....

bob_brown Apr 25th, 2006 11:20 AM

Hmm. How much will they pay me?

A friend of mine flew Bulgarian airlines a few years ago. He swears he rode next to a pig.

Compared to some of the seat mates I have had, I think I would prefer the pig.


FainaAgain Apr 25th, 2006 11:20 AM

What about childrens' seats? Babies in lap? Now it will be more "babes in lap" ;)

Will they make 2 levels of standing children places? I hope not upside down!!

Monkey seats :))

JAGIRL Apr 25th, 2006 11:36 AM

Here's the link to the NY Times article by the way.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/25/bu...mp;oref=slogin

JAGIRL Apr 25th, 2006 11:43 AM

And of course the infamous "Vikings" post. Hilarious.

http://fodors.com/forums/threadselec...amp;dirtyBit=1

laclaire Apr 25th, 2006 11:51 AM

I have been wondering for a while when this would be proposed. I think that airlines (actually, transportation in general) have really degenerated due to changes in market demand. it used to be that everyone was comfortable. Then they started to take away leg room, meaning that if you wanted comfort, you had to pay up the nose. It seems to be headed towards masochism. If you don't want to be in pain, you have to pay. The fact that they are even presenting the option is just ludicrous.

I am going to invent a fetal position chair and stack people on my planes.

P_M Apr 25th, 2006 12:22 PM

Where would a standing passenger put his/her carry-on luggage? Would I have to stand on it?

FainaAgain Apr 25th, 2006 03:27 PM

ZIANA!!! Want to read something really funny? I mean REALLY funny, you'll laugh till you cry

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34753901

Madison Apr 25th, 2006 03:39 PM

I was watching the news this morning and they showed an illustration of the new "standing room only seat. What is reminds me of is a baby strapped into a car seat. They have stooped to an all-time low to even think of doing something like this.

Do you think the CEO's of the airlines would fly in a standing-room-only seat? I highy doubt it. Maybe if they were squeezed into the cattle call section once in awhile they would see what they are forcing us to do.

mcnyc Apr 25th, 2006 03:40 PM

Wonder if ambien will help us sleep standing up?

And will leg room still be an issue? Gives airbus a whole new meaning.

petertherabbitt Apr 25th, 2006 05:05 PM

they can take that idea and place it where the sun does not shine

JAGIRL Apr 25th, 2006 05:28 PM

Well...gas prices are going up which means that more frills are going to be cut.
We'll probably soon hear that they're going to stop landing at all destinations : we'll have to bring our own parachutes and jump out at the announcement over the big speakers that we've arrived at __________"

Next thing you'll know is that they'll just strap us to a huge rubber band and fling us in the direction of where we wanna go!

Maire Apr 25th, 2006 05:36 PM

good one, JAGIRL!

Underhill Apr 25th, 2006 05:38 PM

Absolutely outrageous. How many bodies can be safely carried on a plane, or is that a dumb question to ask?

mcnyc Apr 25th, 2006 05:44 PM

JAGirl, we think alike. On my weekly shuttle run LGA-DCA, I've always had a joke that due to our short flights, we should 1-be slingshot to our destination or 2-be allowed to parachute out the plane upon reaching the DC area so the plane can continue on to a real destination.

The landings would certainly be better than some I've experienced on these rides!

mcnyc Apr 25th, 2006 05:47 PM

Oh, my fine print to the shuttle airlines:

I'm kidding about the parachutes and slingshots. Don't get any wise ideas!

Your devoted frequent flyer.

Robespierre Apr 25th, 2006 05:48 PM

[Sigh.]

Why <i>didn't</i> that AAL leg room thing work?
Bad timing (9/11)?
Didn't get the anticipated load factors?
Greed?

rex Apr 25th, 2006 05:53 PM

I would stand up, on a flight of 55 minutes or under... if I could arrive at the airport at 12 minutes or less before departure - - like I used to be able to do.

Best wishes,

Rex

whitey Apr 25th, 2006 06:57 PM

I would do it, just for the experience; if you had a travel companion, you could switch off every now and then. What if you had a 6 hour flight and you could save $600 off regular coach ? I'd stand around for $100 an hour anytime!


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