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SKPKCP11 Sep 26th, 2011 08:19 PM

St. Wolfgang v/s Zell Am See
 
Dear All,

We are in the midst of planning our first trip to Austria in May 2012. We are 2 adults and 2 children below 10 years. We will have no car and will use public transport - bus & train.

We plan to be in Austria for 12 - 14 days and are looking at spending time in these areas -
St. Wolfgang
Zell Am See
Seefeld

Can anyone recommend budget and conveniently located accomodations in these areas. We would like to stay on a farm too if it can be done. We are foodies and would like a place which is conveniently located to restaurants. Not anything touristy.

Please give your recommendations on the number of days we should keep for each area. Is it worth visiting St. Wolfgang and Zell Am See or should we give St. Wolfgang a miss?

Kindly critique our itinerary.

Kind regards,
SKPKCP11

swandav2000 Sep 26th, 2011 09:25 PM

Hi SKPKCP11,

I spent one afternoon in Zell some years ago and four nights in St. Gilgen near St. Wolfgang. I liked St. Gilgen more because the lake is larger -- one day, I rented a bike and cycled to Strobl and back. I love cycling days! You can also cruise the lake on ferries.

If you would consider staying in the smaller St. Gilgen, I stayed at the Pension Ferstl, which was perfect for me. It was right in the center of town, so convenient for shopping or touring.

http://www.ferstl.at/index_e.htm

I don't think that staying on a farm would be a great idea when using public transport. The farms really are out in the middle of nowhere; I don't think you'll find a farm that will be convenient to restaurants! You'd probably have to hop a bus for a 10 minute ride every time you went into town.

Have fun as you plan!

s

molker Sep 27th, 2011 12:07 AM

Agree with the above - St. Gilgen and Strobl by Wolfgangsee make for a great destination , fine scenery, things to do and as a base to explore city of Salzburg, Bad Ischl, Hallstatt etc.

bobthenavigator Sep 27th, 2011 06:19 AM

We loved this place in St. Gilgen---very family oriented.

http://www.hotel-schernthaner.at/

scatcat Sep 27th, 2011 07:31 AM

I also can recommend the Hotel Schernthaner in St. Gilgen. Very nice people, nice room, and good breakfast. There is a charge for wifi in your room, but there is a computer available for free use.

I also highly recommend Hallstatt. I have stayed several times at Hotel Simony.

flygirl Sep 27th, 2011 07:39 AM

I have only been to Zell am See, and that was briefly. So I cannot compare to your other choice.

However, one good thing to consider with Zell is that you are at the top of the Grossglockner alpine road, which is beautiful. You can see a glacier while you visit it, and you can visit Heiligenblut which is stunningly situated in a valley. You can do the drive, turn around and go back to Zell, and consider going to St Gilgen too (unless they are vastly far apart, I haven't looked at a map).

Some photos of Zell/Grossglockner/Heiligenblut:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skywalkerbeth/2537218998/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skywalkerbeth/2763422481/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skywalk...57606734518803

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skywalk...57606734518803

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skywalk...57606734518803

scatcat Sep 27th, 2011 07:44 AM

flygirl, I love your photos! I have never been to Zell. Do you think it is possible to take public transportation and see the wonderful sights? I travel solo, so I never rent a car.

swandav2000 Sep 27th, 2011 07:58 AM

For scatcat --

Yes, it's quite easy to get to Zell am See by public transport. I also never rent a car, and get everywhere by public transport -- or bicycle or walking!

I took the train there from Salzburg -- you can get all the transportation options and schedules at the German rail site (very comprehensive):

www.bahn.de

good luck as you plan!

s

ira Sep 27th, 2011 07:59 AM

Hi SK,

From whence are you starting?

St. Wolfgang to Zell am See by train is 4-5 hr with 3-2 train changes. Seefeld is about 3 train changes and 5 hr from Zell.

>We would like to stay on a farm too if it can be done.<
Without a car?

((I))

flygirl Sep 27th, 2011 08:07 AM

I don't know if you can visit the Grossglockner via a bus/guided tour. I had my own car (just bought a BMW).

scatcat Sep 27th, 2011 08:42 AM

Thanks swandav and flygirl. I like to add one new place each time I visit a country. Zell am See is the one for my next trip.

pja1 Sep 27th, 2011 04:43 PM

Hi scatcat,

Just thought I'd add that we also liked Zell am See. We visited for a day in '07 and stayed in '09. We loved the old town and walking along the lakeside. Renting an electric boat for an hour (about 20 Euro) and touring the lake on our own was a highlight. If you can find a day trip on the Grossglockner Hochalpenstrasse, it's well worth seeing.

www.worldisround.com/articles/355540/index.html

www.worldisround.com/articles/338868/index.html

www.worldisround.com/articles/324599/index.html

Paul

scatcat Sep 27th, 2011 04:50 PM

pja1 Beautiful pics! Can't wait to go there, but I will have to wait until June of next year. I hope I can find a bus tour to Grossglockner.

pja1 Sep 27th, 2011 05:00 PM

Check the 7th post down:

http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel...ee-TG-C-1.html

You could always write to the Zell am See Tourist Board:

http://www.zellamsee-kaprun.com/summ...st_service/en/

Paul

scatcat Sep 27th, 2011 05:09 PM

Thanks pja1. I am happy there is a bus! I will email the Tourist Office and get times. I read a lot of useful info on some of the other posts also. Now I'm excited to go. I would almost change my October trip to Italy and France just to go there. But I'm sure it will be warmer in June. I do not like cold weather at all.

mangiacrauti Sep 29th, 2011 12:02 PM

hi, some hotels might be still closed in may in zell am see or seefeld... in zell am see I can recommend schloss prielau, which has the haute cuisine restaurant Mayer'S next door. There is also some other good restaurants in the area, such as steinerwirt, much more affordable and still very good. 3 days is enough for every location, as they are small villages. check out the website of the area http://www.salzburgerland.com/ for farm-stays, which are called Urlaub am Bauernhof.
Very convenient for the area is a card which gives you many reductions or free admission on sights,cable cars, museums, trains, etc...
http://www.salzburgerlandcard.com/en/

SKPKCP11 Sep 30th, 2011 02:29 AM

Dear Fodorites,

Thanks for the lovely info. Swandav2000 please confirm if the german rail site also gives the oebb (Austrian train) connections as I felt the bahn.de was more user friendly? We are planning to use Eifach Raus tickets. Is ER valid for any where in Austrian or is it valid for individual Austrian states?

Mangiacrauti - Is the Salzburgerland card valid for St. Wolfgang and Zell Am See? Kindly advise.

Kind regards,
SKPKCP11

mangiacrauti Oct 2nd, 2011 06:55 AM

yes it is valid for all the Salzburg area, including st.wolfgang and zell am see.
see here:
http://salzburg.intermaps.com/v9/ind...Sommer&Lang=en
we saved lot's of money with it, doing some really nice things for free...
about the traintickets, bahn.de is more user friendly, but has all connections for austria. einfach raus tickets should work in all austria, but only for the slow trains!!

swandav2000 Oct 2nd, 2011 07:03 AM

Hi again,

Yes, the DB site also gives the schedule for Austrian (and Swiss and French) trains. It gives the schedules for trains in all of continental Europe, I think, with maybe some small problems with Italian trains.

Good luck as you plan!

s

SKPKCP11 Oct 5th, 2011 06:53 AM

Dear All,

Thanks for your valuable feedback. Please advise conveniently located budget accomodations in Zell Am See and St. Wolfgang in the range of Euro 60-80 per night as we will not have a car and will rely heavily on public transport. Currently what is available is on the higher side.

Also, advise if we can do Ice Caves if we are based in Zell Am See.

What are the must do attractions from St. Wolfgang and from Zell Am See besides doing day trips to Salzburg.

Kind regards,
SKPKCP11


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