Great post...thanks for taking the time

Hi Elvira! Do you remember me? You gave me lots of tips before our trip to Morocco. I loved reading your report. We've been to the Nissim museum as well....what a gem! Now I'm reading these boards again because we're off the Nice and Aix in May. Have you been? Any tips?<BR><BR>P.S. My son put in a request for Couscous...just yesterday...what a coincidence....I have to find the recipe you gave me!!!<BR><BR>Tade care, have fun...Arlene

My point exactly, whoever you are. You cannot say anything negative without receiving puerile jibes from someone hiding in the e-world.<BR><BR>Thing is, I dont mind you saying my travelogue is boring (although as there is no travelogue on my website, merely an outline of where we went, I'm a little amazed at how you've managed to read what I've written so far). I did the trip, though, and Elvira did hers just as Rex does his so what's your problem?<BR><BR>It's your opinion so that's cool.<BR><BR>Love you all

Boo, Betty! (Not you, BCarver). Another interesting, entertaining post, Elvira. I love reading about Paris from your perspective. Keep up the good work.

Tony<BR>Your comments were pretty mature right up to the crawly-bum-lick rubbish. Then you started to sound a little childish to say the least.<BR><BR>Opinions are fine, and everyone is allowed to disagree.<BR><BR>But most of the people who post positive comments are those who also use the site, contribute to it themselves and enjoy reading others comments, whether in their own personal style or not.<BR><BR>The negative comments always seem to be anonymous, people who have likely not contributed anything themselves.<BR><BR>Surely if someone doesn't enjoy a particular trip report or the style of writing of a particular poster they need to do no more than skip it and move on, what is the need to post nasty little digs on the thread itself?<BR><BR>To turn around with some sad little comment about how Elvira is trying to be too cute or whatever is not just an expression of opinion about her trip report, it's a personal dig, and unpleasant and uneccessary.<BR><BR>If that anonymous poster had simply said, I personally have not enjoyed this report because I dont enjoy the humourous style of it, I prefer dryer more factual, serious trip reports, I would have much more respect.<BR><BR>That would be expressing their opinion without nastiness or crawlybumlicking as you put it.<BR><BR>Kavey<BR><BR>

Well said, kavey-that is the way I feel about it.It isn't enough for some people to read a report and like it or not, they feel they must pick it apart and let the writer know exactly what it was that they didn't like about it...and going on to say what they don't like about the writer...as if they even knew the writer! Do these critics also write to the Times or whatever newspaper they might read, and let the editor know what a bore the paper is? to the magazine to complain about it going on too long? I think not!<BR>And is bum licky an expression that adults in the UK use?

Elvira, thanks a bunch for your "report." Now you've done it--I'm going in April and am going to have to add Nissim and Pantheon (I'm sure I saw it in my youth, but all those memory brain cells have died by now). My "to-see" list is overflowing with ideas, most gleaned from the Sally Fowler thread a while back, but if I run out of time, not to worry--good reason to go back.<BR><BR>I really do wish the nay-sayers would go away. I loved Kavey's and Elvira's accounts—like hearing from a friend. My writing is so dull that I am jealous, but that doesn't make me feel the need to put down people who manage to breathe a little life into their posts.<BR>

Are all of these negative comments really necessary? Elvira is writing for herself and is generous enough to post her trip report here and share it with you. She is not writing to be critiqued. None of you are book reviewers. <BR><BR>I'm amazed that people bother to post their trip reports here anymore. Even if you have a thick skin, the negative remarks are hurtful. I know that I will only send out my travelogue by email. If people make the effort to email me, I have to believe that they are genuinely interested in what I have to write and that they are mature enough not to write mean and nasty things about my experiences. <BR><BR>Writers that post their travel reports here are generous enough to share information with you. Don't insult them for doing that, whether you like the content or the writing style. No one here is claiming to be the next Pulitzer Prize winner. <BR><BR>For the people that have nothing nice to say, I can only assume that you are seething with jealousy, please do the others a favor and take your hostility somewhere else. Your negative contributions are not worthy enough to be read. For that matter, you don't deserve to share in the information that is provided here. So, instead of getting first hand experience and usually very recent experience, invest in a travel book with information that is at least a year old.<BR><BR>And Elvira, I enjoyed reading your trip report. Thanks for brightening my day. <BR>

Bobbie; Consider some etiquette here. Obviously r thought she was being accused by you of calling Elvira a tramp when in fact she was praising Elvira in every way. Can't you just say you are sorry for the misunderstanding instead of becoming defensive?

As usual, wonderful report.<BR>I agree with Leslie, the attitudes are running rampart, this is Elvira's report, like it or not.

Elvira.. wonderful post as always... goodness the riposte! I personally happen to like Elvira, Kavey and Tony..many people take this email posting thing very seriously... thanks for all of the wonderful trip posts from all of you. I don't think I want to get... ummm bumlicky crawly with anyone but I still enjoy your posts and wish happy future travels to all!

Elvira, thank you for sharing your report ... I've filed it away for "some day".<BR><BR>Also, love the tip o' the hat to Frank and one of my favorite songs! "She loves the cool, cool wind in her hair ... life without care. She's broke, but it's OK-ay."

Elvira, thanks for posting the report, I really enjoyed it. My only complaint was that it was too short ;-)<BR><BR>I know I would'a loved that d'Orsay exhibit, l'art de table. I love to cook (I've been working on French recipes lately--my sponge cakes esp.). I've read great things about the Nissim. We're going for the first time in May. Originally planned it for Sept 01, but that didn't work out.<BR><BR>a studio with a washer/dryer sounds fantastic, I'm keeping that idea in my head for a future visit. re: the pantheon--you've changed my mind about it. wow, how is it I already want a second trip before I've had my first??<BR><BR>Marge

Dear Heather, <BR>Frank sang, "She's broke...that's OK", making "OK", in this case, rhyme with "broke"; it ain't "OK-ay". AND he also sang, "She likes that cool, FRESH wind in her hair". Just helping out with the lyrics of one of your favourites. I am pedantic. Some of us have to be. Ho hum...here come the complaints.

Thanks so much for the trip report. We leave in 2 weeks for London, Paris and Prague. I recently read about Le Nissim and now definitely will visit along with Hotel Soubise. They sound wonderful. Also, my husband loves raw oysters. La Barcarola sounds like a special treat for him. He deserves one after enduring shopping. I have a question which I will probably get flack for, but do they use any kind of hot sauce or a dressing on the raw oysters. Again thanks, I really enjoy fun and informative trip reports

Elvira, I really enjoyed your trip report. When i read the part about the yellow star, my throat closed up - it created a vivid picture in my head. Thanks for sharing, as I travel vicariously in the European trip reports of others (for now, anyway).<BR>ja

Arlene: I like Nice - it's centrally located for day trips to Monte Carlo, the hill towns like St Paul de Vence, and the pretty towns (and beaches) along the coast; it's got a wonderful old town for markets and shops and several good museums and lovely churches. Glad you liked Morocco; it's an enchanting country with even more enchanting people. Definitely a do-over.<BR><BR>ggrant: the oysters were served just plain with a bowl of spicy vinegar on the side which was quite good. After one with the vinegar, though, I went with just the plain oysters. They tasted like the sea. Georges said they made him think of Brittany; they reminded me of the Cape and Maine when I was a kid.<BR><BR>I write like I think and talk with little editing except to clean up typos and redundancy. I've never before been accused of being cute; I'm more a Laverne than a Shirley. I'm a regular person who wants everyone to know that travel can be done and enjoyed by everybody, so my reports are written for regular people. It's too bad the reports offend some people, but you can please some of the people all of the time...(stovepipe) hats off to Abe.<BR><BR>And as for the tune from Pal Joey, Frank's version is the quintessential Frank, but my favorite version is by Buddy Greco. You don't grow up in a household with a jazz musician without learning a few things. Like standing in line at the d'Orsay listening to a street musician play Satin Doll and snapping my fingers on the downbeat while singing "cigarette holder, she wigs me, over her shoulder, she digs me, out cattin', my satin dooooll". <BR><BR>I'm not a big fan of California, 'cause it IS cold and damp. Only been to Harlem on a through bus, sans ermine and pearls. Are any of the players at Vegas craptables barons and earls? If so, then I'm guilty.

Wonderful report following another wonderful report I loved by Kavey (which I just read yesterday with great joy).<BR>As my first visit to France is scheduled for this summer, I am always surprised at the never ending supply of things to see and do which our fodorites list. I guess this is also true about the city I live in-NY and hope that other New Yorkers appreciate living here. With only 5 days in Paris I will doubtless only scratch the surface (if that), but love hearing about all the places I can look forward to on other trips.<BR>I anxiously await your next post.<BR>

I don't know elvira at all, but I'll bet a sizeable sum that if any of the negative people were to travel with/get to know her, they would think:<BR>a. She's a good person<BR>b. She's a blast to travel with

A toast to Elvira from another jazz fan.