Fodor's Travel Talk Forums

Fodor's Travel Talk Forums (https://www.fodors.com/community/)
-   Europe (https://www.fodors.com/community/europe/)
-   -   Secret Paris (https://www.fodors.com/community/europe/secret-paris-686124/)

cigalechanta Mar 18th, 2007 08:05 AM

Lisette, while in Giverny, be sure to visit the gardens of the American Museum, just down the road,

http://giverny.org/museums/american/gardens/index.htm

And also the Antiente Hotel Baudy, no longer a hotel(where the American artists stayed who visited Monet)
It's a charming restaurant and garden in back with a preserved artist studio.

cigalechanta Mar 18th, 2007 08:07 AM

http://www.giverny.fr/Gardens-of-the-HOTEL-BAUDY.html

lisette75 Mar 18th, 2007 08:29 AM

Thanks for your suggestions cigalechanta and for the restaurant as I was looking for a restaurant with garden to have lunch.

cigalechanta Mar 18th, 2007 08:51 AM

A more expensive but charming spot we also tried:

http://giverny.org/restos/jardegiv/jardegiv.htm

Cameron Mar 18th, 2007 07:32 PM

I've not been able to open the site that Lisette posted. Anyone else have trouble with it?

robjame Mar 18th, 2007 07:50 PM

<<I've not been able to open the site that Lisette posted. Anyone else have trouble with it?>>
yes

lisette75 Mar 18th, 2007 10:50 PM

it works on my side. If anyone wants a copy by email, please, send me your address to [email protected]

Janeda Mar 21st, 2007 12:46 PM

Lovely places to discover, thanks for sharing!!!

mahya Mar 21st, 2007 08:39 PM

Kherman & Linnette -
I spent 10 days in Paris last April and it was so cold there were no flowers...but 10 days in Paris is just enough to wet your appetite.

Kherman, this year I'm going to Paris from the 25 to 29 of May and leaving on the 30th. Wonder if we'll be on the same plane? (smile)

Is anybody who will be in Paris at the last week of May interested in a "get-together" ?

Mahya

lisette75 Mar 22nd, 2007 04:25 AM

Hi! being in Paris (it is sunny today) I can arrange a get-together in a secret place!

tod Mar 26th, 2007 07:44 AM

Hi again lisette75,
I came across this when I was re-reading something:
"SQUARE DES BATIGNOLES, the gem of the neighborhood, is one of the lovely gardens scattered about by Napoleon III's gardener Alphand.
Like all Alphand's gardens Square des Batignolles has lovely rolling lawns, shady trees flower-beds, winding paths and a lake. A magnificent Belle-Epoc carousel has been st up here of late, complete with nostalgic music, providing pleasure to successive loads of the neighborhoods children, seated astride wooden horses, while elderly residents rest on benches in the sun"
Maybe you would like to add this to you ever-growing list of secrets!
It's not a tourist hangout, so those of us who love to wander further afield will really appreciate this find.

mahya Mar 26th, 2007 11:17 AM

Hi Lisette,

That would be great - I'm just making my final hotel and plane arrangements and now it looks like I'll be in Paris from the evening of the 5th to the evening of the 9th. Finding "Secret Paris" would be marvelous :)

lisette75 Mar 26th, 2007 01:25 PM

Hi Tod,
Square des Batignolles is the square where I go jogging sometimes early in the morning. I like it very much together with the lovely church facing the entrance. I took a nice picture last week with the ducks that I should post

lisette75 Mar 26th, 2007 01:27 PM

Mahya are you talking about May ? as if it is April, I will be in Giverny the dates you mentionned

tod Mar 27th, 2007 10:18 AM

lisette - You lucky girl! What a life.
The Church of course is the white provincial Church Of Sainte-Marie-des-Batignolles (so called because during its construction a 25cm bronze statuette of the Virgin and Child was unearthed on the site).
It was built in 1828 by Eugene Lequeux, when the church of Saint Charles at 22 rue Legendre could no longer contain the growing number of parishioners of Batignolles. This was not an easy venture, for Batignolles was not a rich man's haven, and although Charles X and the Duchesse d'Angouleme helped raise the funds for the venture, for several years it only had a simple nave. Worse - it did not even have a bell tower, of which the locals were thoroughly ashamed. And so on.........
As it turned out the bell now installed happens to have a prestigious pedigree, having been cast in 1851 in the foundry of Hildebrand, purveyor to the Emperor.
In 1888 the statuette of Mary was stolen and never retrieved. Another Mary now rises above the alter, gloriously illuminated by the rays of the sun.

Lisette, Is the restaurant Le Clos Sainte-Marie at 1 Place Charles Fillion opposite still doing good business?

khermann Mar 28th, 2007 09:43 AM

Mahya, a Fodorite GTG in Paris near the end of May would be great fun! I will be there from the 19th of May, and like you, leaving on the 30th.
Lisette, I got your email and have had some computer problems, but will respond when I get home. I did get the brochure. THANK YOU! And thank you for introducing us to the secret gardens in Paris through your blog!

tod Mar 29th, 2007 09:34 AM

Lisette - Have you ever been to a tadpole pond in the 20e? I took down the book "Unexplored Paris" from my library shelf and found this charming description:
Jardin Naturel (Nature Garden),
100-120 Rue De La Reunion
Metro: Alexandre Dumas
For information call: 01.43.28.47.63

The book says thus:
"A highly refreshing nature garden stretches northward from the end of Rue de la Reunion which stops at the foot of the massive Pere-Lachaise cemetery.
A small pond graced by reeds and waterlilies is one of the most pleasant places in this garden.
First, circle the pond and appreciate all the diversity of plants, then take a path uphill to reach the park's edge.
Stand very still and quiet - Patience - Look down for your reward.............
In this paradise for birds, you can relax on a bench and enjoy an unending concert of birdsong.

Being an amateur birdwatcher myself, this has to be high on my list for the next trip to Paris!

coldwar27 Mar 29th, 2007 05:45 PM

Lisette:

I can't wait for May! How thoughtful of you. I have been sick and busy lately and have not been on the boards so this was a nice treat to see a potential picture in a month or so. :)

cigalechanta Mar 29th, 2007 06:34 PM

Lisette, thank, thank you for the Paris times!

lisette75 Mar 30th, 2007 02:01 PM

Tod, you know so much about Paris. Have you lived there ? Clos st marie is facing the square and the Church isn't it is not place Charles Fillon I think. I have been there once but I don't think they are doing great business, don't know why when the rest of restaurants are always fully booked.
The Square you have read about is called le square casque d'or but I don't know it. Do not often go in the 20 district. When a few months ago vising the lovely houses of the quartier de la Mouzaia, do you know it ?
Coldwar, for sure you will have your photo on my blog in May!!!

tod Mar 30th, 2007 11:33 PM

Morning Lisette - How I wish to live in Paris! Unfortunately not, but I have made about 10 visits over many years.
I also have a very well stocked library of mostly books on Paris and find good references to questions people ask.
The book I took the information from for Batignolles comes from a great authority on Paris, namely Thirza Vallois. The book is 'Around & About Paris'.
She ends the chapter on the 17e like this:
"Opposite the Square, south-west of the church, at no.1 Place Carles Fillion, the restaurant Le Clos Sainte-Marie will prolong your journey into nostalgia on a warm summer evening, taking you out of Paris altogether"

That's why I was wondering about it and if you may have been there.

lisette75 Mar 31st, 2007 05:01 AM

Hi Tod,
Ok I understand now but you know Paris more than the majority of Parisians.
Please visit http://www.lexpress.fr/voyage/video.asp?idv=14
and you will see their Paris Secret notebooks videos. They show plenty of videos of lovely secret places. It is into french and you should be able to enjoy it! I am so glad to have discovered this.
The link I am sending is a video about a lovely passage in the 17th next door to my home.

tod Apr 1st, 2007 12:30 AM

That was wonderful Lisette! Thanks so much.

lisette75 Apr 1st, 2007 12:59 PM

Tod, I am glad you enjoyed. There was a antique fair and a garden event today at the Batignolles Village and the Clos St Marie you mentionned is called also Jardin d'Isa this is why I was confused http://clos-ste-marie.com/

robjame Apr 2nd, 2007 06:41 AM

Bonjour lisette
Have you been to the gardens in La Vie Romantique Museum
16, rue Chaptal
Hôtel Scheffer-Renan
Paris, 75009 France
I understand that there is a tea room there as well. I was wondering if you thought it worthwhile.

lisette75 Apr 2nd, 2007 10:58 AM

Hi Robjame!
The tea room of the Musée de la Vie Romantique is one of my fist posts on my blog http://lisetteparis.reallifelog.com/archive/38023/
It is such a lovely place to have lunch or tea during spring or summer!

robjame Apr 2nd, 2007 11:20 AM

Ahh yes. How did I miss it. Sorry.

lisette75 Apr 10th, 2007 12:26 PM

Cigalechanta, if you read this message and want to receive lovely photos of Giverny, send me an email address so I can send you some from my lovely week end

cigalechanta Apr 10th, 2007 12:37 PM

That's sweet of you Lisette thank you.
[email protected]

Janeda Apr 14th, 2007 02:07 PM

Hi Lisette, any recommendation about restaurant with garden on ile de la cité or ile st louis. I am going to Paris soon want to stay in this area.

lisette75 Apr 18th, 2007 12:11 PM

Hi! I wish I would know one on St Louis Island that I love, if anyone could recommend one, I would be grateful as fodorites sometimes know Paris much more that Parisians!
Nevertheless, I recommend to have a drink at the Kiosques Flottants on a barge - quai de Montebello, please, check these two websites to have a picture http://www.highonadventure.com/Hoa00oct/Paris/paris.htm and
I have never tried their food.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:59 AM.