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Weebles Sep 9th, 2007 01:26 PM

Searching for the George V of apartments in Paris
 
Hi All,

This is my first post so please be kind. I've been scouring this website as well as many others for months looking for a high end apartment. I'm not having much luck so I'm going to bite the bullet and post my question. I'm looking for a very high end apartment in Paris for one week. The problem is, I'm really looking for something ultra luxurious. The place I'm looking for would be a 5 star type apartment however, I haven't found any. Yes, that could mean there is no such thing but I'm still hopeful!

I know lots of people on this board seem to love ParisPerfect. Sadly, I don't look at those apartments and think they're all that terrific. I'd say they look more like 3 or 4 star at best. Yes, I'm picky and I do admit it!

In addition, I've also looked at many other websites that supposedly offer luxury apartments but even those don't look all that special. For the record, I've searched websites such as:

chezvous
haveninparis
vrbo
timeandplace
parisattitude
guestapartment
goin2travel
parisluxuryrentals

etc etc etc. Just wanted to list a few so you knew I was doing my homework. In any case, this really is for a very special occasion and yes, we could stay at the George V or the Ritz but, I really wanted to stay at an apartment. Ideally it would be in the 4th, 5th, 6th or 7th but we'd even consider the 1st, 2nd, or 16th!

So, my question is, does such a place exist. I feel as though I've exhausted all my options but, I'm hoping someone here might have rented a place or even saw a place that you feel is really special. If you have, please let me know. Our budget is up to about $7K per week and it's for 2 people.

Thanks so much for your suggestions!

kerouac Sep 9th, 2007 01:34 PM

Here's something in your price range:
http://www.homelidays.com/paris-03/a...t114192fr1.htm

travelbunny Sep 9th, 2007 01:36 PM

you missed Paris Perfect...remember though, what makes George V a luxurious isnt just the room but the service so no apt can match that.

Weebles Sep 9th, 2007 01:40 PM

Hi TB--no I haven't missed ParisPerfect. I've seen all their apartments and sadly, they're just not what I'm looking for.

I only mentioned the George V so folks would know that I meant very high end. Yes, I do realize that an apartment isn't going to come with a concierge desk---and that's okay!

jody Sep 9th, 2007 02:01 PM

Maybe I'm missing something here, but in apt. no matter how luxurious someone is going to have to make the beds and clean up the bathroom. Me I'd book a suite at the George Cig and forget abou housekeeping!

elsiejune Sep 9th, 2007 04:36 PM

Weebles: Jody may be right, you might be best served in a luxurious suite at one of the 5 star hotels. If you're really serious about finding an apartment, however, you really need to ask yourself what it is you're looking for. Here are a few places that you haven't mentioned: OurParisHome.com, Ville et Village, Just France (rue du Bac, and others), and Perfect Places #3952. Oh, and the Brangilina flat that's been advertised on VRBO. With your budget, I would insist on a high floor, luxurious flat with balcony and view in the location of your choice. Otherwise, give your money to the hotel of your choice. P.S. ParisPerfect really does provide excellent service, accomodations, and views. You might want to take a second look. Happy shopping, EJ ((#))

amamax2 Sep 9th, 2007 05:07 PM

On Samantha Brown's travel show, she stayed in a gorgeous apt through this agency:

http://www.parisluxeapt.com/

She said it was expensive and very luxurious.

janisj Sep 9th, 2007 05:09 PM

have you checked out ParisLuxe?

http://www.parisluxeapt.com/category.htm

But the ones that have the the amenities you seem to require will be over your budget. My thought is you won't find a flat w/ the quality of the Ritz/George V from much under $8000-$12000 a week.

Reason being - really deluxe townhouses/apartments are REALLY deluxe, where as really deluxe hotels have a certain economy of scale. There are many rooms rented for $1000 a night more or less - partly subsidized by the restaurants/bars/services. A equal private property would cost a LOT more

Squeak Sep 9th, 2007 05:29 PM

I want to first start off by thanking those who have tried to help the picky Fodorite!

So in my original post, when I listed the sites I've checked out, that was not meant to be an inclusive list. I have a HUGE folder in my favorites. I just couldn't see listing them all. I have looked at all that have been mentioned the the exception of the Brangelina apartment (which I couldn't find easily on VRBO) and I hadn't heard of OurParisHome so thank you!!

For those who have asked, yes, I have stayed at some very nice hotels but I would just like to experience the same in an apartment. I do realize that it's alot of money to spend when you have to make your own bed, etc. Still, it's an experience I'd like to have.

Rue de Bac on JustFrance looks very cold and waaay too minimalistic for my taste. There's nothing Parisean about it, it just looks ultra comtemporary to me. I would choose 23, RUE DU CHERCHE-MIDI over Rue De Bac.

My favorite apartment that I found, is just way out of our range. I'm hoping that I can find something just as nice for a lot less.

http://www.parisluxeapt.com/apt_chanel2.htm

I feel like I'm completely in the minority here but, I just don't get the ParisPerfect thing. I look at some of those bathrooms and think they look like the low end of Home Depot and some of their furniture looks like something I'd see at Ikea. Really! And I know we're not buying the place, just renting--but still!! To me, they don't have the look of high end although I admit that I've read nothing but glowing reviews about their service.

I really can be pleased in spite of what you may think. I was just hoping there would be a website or place to go that specializes in high end rentals.






mclaurie Sep 9th, 2007 05:52 PM

A vacation rental for $1,000/night will likely be more about space than luxury. People who want luxury also want service and for service you need a hotel or a home staffed with cook/maid/butler etc. Perhaps that's possible to find through a concierge service or through personal contacts. It would be interesting to hear what it is you want (or don't want) that an apt. will offer that a hotel cannot.

Perhaps these people can help you.
http://www.fly-you-to-the-moon.com/

janisj Sep 9th, 2007 06:05 PM

&quot;<i>I'm hoping that I can find something just as nice for a lot less.</i>&quot;

I just don't think you are being realistic. That kind of quality comes w/ a price, but it seems you aren't willing to pay it. My guess is a $1000 a night hotel room will be about comparable to a $1500-$2000+ a night apartment. Plus staff.

janisj Sep 9th, 2007 06:10 PM

oh - and what is the deal w/ the different screen name???

You say it is &quot;Weebles&quot; first post - but then come back as &quot;squeak&quot;. So you just re-registered and claimed to be a newbie?

lemidi Sep 9th, 2007 06:23 PM

Weebles, are you Squeak? I thought this was your first post?
Anyway, you're asking for a reason, so have you tried La Cure who specializes in high end rentals worldwide (mostly villas) that usually include housekeeping and sometimes a cook.They have a few places in PAris. Here's one but is probably out of the price range
http://www.lacurevillas.com/villaDet...p?VillaID=7132 .

Iwan2go Sep 9th, 2007 10:05 PM

I'm noticing that on the parisluxeapt website, some of the apartments are actually from parisvacationapartments, but the prices are about double. (The 3 bedroom &quot;Anouck&quot;, for example, is $8000/week on parisluxe, while on pva it's closer to $5000).

Perhaps you could discover which is the original website for the apartment you love - Chanel? (which is gorgeous!!!) and it will be less.

Good luck.

travel_buzzing Sep 10th, 2007 12:25 AM

I'm assuming that you are going as a couple (2 persons)? There's an apartment on the Champs Elys&eacute;es with a little garden which is well under your budget for the week. there's actually a 35% discount for week stays: http://www.way2stay.com/Paris-apartm...n-109-1853.htm

The bathroom, the location and the garden make it luxury.

chicagolori Sep 10th, 2007 05:48 AM

Will she come back as Squeak or Weebles? ... stay tuned.

Weebles Sep 10th, 2007 06:15 AM

I'm Weebles, my sister is Squeak and I didn't log her out. I screwed up and she's not happy with me. AAARRGGH, sorry.


I noticed that many of the Paris Lux Apartments were also available on many other websites as well and you're right, they're about twice the price. In any case, they are just way over my range anyway.

I thought $7000 per week would certainly allow us to stay in an exceptional apartment but apparently I'm wrong.






smarty Sep 10th, 2007 09:31 AM

The Small &amp; Elegant Hotels agency also represents a range of apartments in Paris, offered by arr. on their web site. The Suffern Ave apt in the 7th is extremely lovely and well within your budget. Perhaps they can arranged maid service for an additional fee?

http://www.smallandeleganthotels.com

Happy Hunting!

Guenmai Sep 10th, 2007 04:57 PM

In Paris, you pay for space and location. The furnishings might not be all that great. Happy Travels!

NeoPatrick Sep 10th, 2007 05:40 PM

I'm more than a little confused myself here. Yes, I understand luxury, but after you, yourself, and others listed about a dozen very high end rental websites you say &quot;I was just hoping there would be a website or place to go that specializes in high end rentals.&quot; Huh? There are and you're looking at them.

I'm also confused that you said you'd expect to pay $1000 a night, but you found one you really like but it &quot;is just way out of our range&quot; at $1275 a night. You want to find something like that but for less? Well on that same site are quite a number of really beautiful apartments for around $1000, but as you certainly know -- if an apartment is worth $1275 -- no one's going to let it go for $1000. Either you have to come up with more money, or lower your sights just a bit.

Now I'm even more confused by the comment that says the apartments on Paris Luxe can be gotten for as little as half the price on some other websites, (like $500 to $650 a night apparently?), but you say &quot;In any case, they are just way over my range anyway.&quot;

I never knew I was so math challenged, but how is $500 to $650 a night &quot;way over&quot; your price range which was supposedly $1000 per night? Or if you could find that one you really like that lists on parisluxe for $1275 for less -- like $1000 per night -- would that now still be way out of your price range?

You said, &quot;I thought $7000 per week would certainly allow us to stay in an exceptional apartment but apparently I'm wrong.&quot; HUH?????????


Meanwhile, what are we to make out of the idea that you registered here just to post this question on your sister's computer? Also that she signed in today between your posts, but she didn't make any posts -- you did, under her name. Really confusing. So you are brand new to Fodors, and you are not Squeak who has been posting here for quite a while -- she's your sister whose computer you're using?

NeoPatrick Sep 10th, 2007 05:45 PM

Oh, by the way. Here's a good thread you might want to read. It was one started by your sister, Squeak 2 years ago and is almost identical to this one. Have you talked with your sister? Maybe she's the one who could help you, since she's already been down this same road.

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...amp;dirtyBit=1

NeoPatrick Sep 10th, 2007 06:03 PM

You might also ask her about the beautiful apartment they stayed in on Ile St. Louis that she felt was wonderful but they probably paid too much for. Sounded wonderful.

It sounds like you and your sister's taste run very similar since she voiced the exact same distaste for the Paris Perfect apartments that you did. So you might like their Ile St. Louis apt.

janisj Sep 10th, 2007 06:39 PM

maybe we have sisters w/ just a bit too much time on their hands ;)

lemidi Sep 11th, 2007 04:16 AM

NeoPatrick, you took the words right out of my mouth. Couldn't have said it/asked it better myself.
Wonder what the motivation was for this post?

NeoPatrick Sep 11th, 2007 05:20 AM

Of course now I'll probably be accused of &quot;attacking&quot; an innocent first time poster who was sincerely looking for information. Please note I have not suggested anything so &quot;horrible&quot; as the idea that these two sisters could actually be one person or that we have been &quot;played a fool&quot; by either (both?) of them. I'm only suggesting that since the two sisters seem to have identical tastes and have posted virtually identical requests that perhaps they talk to each other about what the other has found out. Especially since the other sister did once mention that they had found a fantastic but expensive place on Ile St. Louis, that sounds like it might be just what the other sister is looking for. That post wasn't really a report, only a side commment when Squeak posted a question about why people prefer apartments to hotels. So it seems one of the best sources of information might be from the sister herself. That is if the one isn't too upset at the other for &quot;not signing her out&quot; on her own computer and posting under the wrong name!

Meanwhile perhaps Squeak is mad at us all? For the past couple of years she has asked dozens of good questions -- often with a lot of discussion back and forth -- looking for high end places in a couple of countries. She has posted about numerous wonderful upcoming trips and sought out places to stay and things to do, but try as I might I can't find a single trip report or a single return after any of those trips to tell us how our help turned out.

kerouac Sep 11th, 2007 05:22 AM

Squeak and Weebles sound like a sideshow attraction anyway. Perhaps they are Siamese twins? ;)

lemidi Sep 11th, 2007 06:15 AM

Still, I am wondering why this post from &quot;Weebles&quot; who obviously had all the resources neccessary to answer his or her own question.

If the real Squeak is around somewhere can you enlighten us as to your sibling's post. For your future credibility you may want to come forward.

Now, I also wonder how many &quot;other&quot; siblings Squeak may have.

NeoPatrick Sep 11th, 2007 07:25 AM

According to the thread where they were looking for a similar very luxurious Paris apartment for their parents, Squeak has two brothers and one sister, but since Weebles accidentally didn't sign out Squeak (her sister) yesterday when posting and the one post came up as Squeak's rather than Weebles', they must share a computer, so I'd think they'd be close enough to talk -- right?
And although this was Weebles' first post ever on Fodor's (as she told us), she is obviously very familiar with Fodor's because she even mentioned that she realizes she is the &quot;minority&quot; here regarding ParisPerfect -- so although she is posting for the first time, it seems she has spent considerable time &quot;lurking&quot; here (as some people call it).

Squeak Sep 11th, 2007 09:42 AM

Wow---chill people. Talk about trying to stir the pot NeoPatrick! You make it sound as if we’ve committed the ultimate deception against everyone here and we’re never to be trusted again! Keep in mind, this is a travel website so there’s no conspiracy going on! We’re not leaking secrets to government agencies here. Sheesh! My sister posted a question and then looked on my computer to see if anyone had answered. I don’t log out of Fodor’s when I’m on my home computer, do most of you? Doesn’t anyone have 2 people in their home who both have multiple accounts on this website? If so, do you share a computer? Maybe your spouse, SO or room-mate forgot to log you out? OMG—I can’t even believe I’m dignifying this post with a response! Geez, even if we were the same person, which is a scary thought, please tell me what harm has been done for goodness sake?

NeoPatrick, I hate your accusatory tone but, I’ll answer. My sister travels a lot for work. She also stays in some very nice hotels but, apparently she feels she’s missing something by not staying in an apartment in Paris. People do glamorize the whole thing so she wants to have the experience. Yes, personally I think she and her SO should stay in a hotel but, she doesn’t want to. So who am I to argue? And finally, given the research I’ve previously done on apartments in Paris, I can attest to the fact that many rental websites offer the same apartment at different prices and some are substantially higher than others!

Here’s an example:
http://www.vrbo.com/19351 this apartment is listed for $200EU per night for 6+ nights and on http://www.parisluxeapt.com/apt_vangogh.htm it’s $2899 USD per week. The apartment thru VRBO is over $900 less per week.

NeoPatrick, I read thru your many posts in this thread and you haven’t offered one helpful suggestion. If you’re not inspired to help, what use is your post other than to get others all wound up over nothing? Your tone is clearly accusatory so if you have nothing of value to offer the OP, then don’t bother to post! If you’re so skeptical of the person who’s asking the question, then don’t answer. Move on! You certainly didn’t help anyone—that’s for sure!

NeoPatrick Sep 11th, 2007 11:24 AM

Wow. Talk about chill, Squeak. There was nothing accusatory about my tone -- whatever are YOU talking about? Name one thing I've said which isn't factual information taken directly from either your sister's or your own posts? Please -- I'll wait for your reply.

When I got ready to post helpful information, I did a search for high end apartments, which I assumed a new poster wouldn't have done. The very first thing I found was your post from 2 years ago, filled with perfect information for your sister. My main goal was to suggest that you've already been down this road so perhaps you could help. You originally said the same thing about staying in luxury hotels and you wanted a high end one instead -- now I THINK you've done that, so what about that apt. you did on Ile St. Louis. Have you suggested it to Weebles? I AM trying to be helpful, but I was surprised when my search for more high end rental sites led to YOU. You should be as much an expert as anyone else here, after your searches both for your parents and for yourself.

But I'm still very much confused especially since you also confirm that the apartment Weebles really likes might be available for her price of $7000 instead of the &quot;way out of her range&quot; $8900. So is that the direction to pursue or not -- especially since there seems to be a consensus that the ParisLuxe site is way overpriced?

As to &quot;stirring the pot&quot;, how can I do that if there is no pot to stir? Read my posts -- I haven't accused anyone of anything, but now it seems someone has a guilty conscience? Whatever for? And I cannot imagine why suggesting that Weebles check with her own sister with whom she shares a computer about the apartment her sister (you) has rented in the past isn't helpful, I sure don't know what is! What on earth about that suggestion is NOT helpful?

Now read carefully once again since you said I haven't offered any helpful suggestion:

Weebles loves an apartment listed on the ParisLuxe site for $8900. Her price limit is $7000. I suggest she look for that apartment on other sites and if she is able to find it for the same type of savings you and others are suggesting can often be found -- or even just for the original $7000 then -- perfection. Is that helpful enough? That's what I suggested before.

NeoPatrick Sep 11th, 2007 11:28 AM


Scarlett Sep 11th, 2007 01:20 PM

Is there another sister named Eve or Sybil?

Neo was not stirring any pots that I noticed...maybe a nest of little hornets but no pots.

As someone who has enjoyed staying in a ParisPerfect Apartment..I can say that they are definitely not 3 star, doubt they would be 4 star and you might be happier in the George V or Plaza Athenee if this is your problem.

kerouac Sep 11th, 2007 01:24 PM

I still do not understand why the troll sisters think they would prefer an apartment. Do they really want to run the vacuum cleaner, put clothes in the washer and go shopping in 1-star supermarkets?

Scarlett Sep 11th, 2007 01:26 PM

No no no, kerouac!! :)
You get maid service with your apt ( ParisPerfect ) and who cooks ?? My shopping was for wine, dessert and handbags :D

NeoPatrick Sep 11th, 2007 01:37 PM

It all becomes more confusing. Squeak, previously (a year or more ago) you mentioned how you wanted to stay in a luxury apartment rather than a hotel, and then you did and you posted that you loved it (when you were asking the reasons others preferred apts. to hotels). So now I'm curious why you think your sister shouldn't do that? Is that why you're keeping your luxury apartment you stayed in a secret from her? And did you ever find one for your parents? You ask these questions and get a lot of help, but we never hear about the results.

Meanwhile I'm waiting to hear what I said that was accusatory, and why my suggestion of trying to get the apartment Weebles really likes for less money (which seems to be a distinct possibility according to Squeak) is NOT being regarded as a helpful suggestion?

kerouac Sep 11th, 2007 01:44 PM

I think we might be headed for a remake of &quot;Qu'est-il arriv&eacute; &agrave; Baby Jane?&quot;

Scarlett Sep 11th, 2007 01:45 PM

Be patient, Neo, the Sisters are conferring..Squeak has to talk to Bubble and then Weebles, but I heard she fell down.

janisj Sep 11th, 2007 01:57 PM

squeak, honey: I don't see anything NP said or did to rile you up so much. Sure, he posted a few pretty detailed entries about the various searches you and your &quot;sister&quot; have run past the forum.

I think, if you take a peek you will see I was the first one to mention the screen name switcheroo.

So just calm yourself(s) down. And there probably won't be ANY flats in Paris that will fulfill &quot;Weebles&quot; fantasy of the George V amenities/quality/service in her price range. Like I tried to explain, a $1000 per night hotel room is one thing, but the same quality for a whole flat will cost substantially more.

fbc34 Sep 11th, 2007 04:39 PM

I'd really like to hear about the trip for their parents? Did they love Paris? Where did they stay?

L4C Sep 11th, 2007 04:47 PM

Bkm, as this is better than any soap opera.


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