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amyb Nov 13th, 2007 06:01 AM

Rome Trip Report -- Nov 1-8
 
<b>Where and when:</b> Rome, Italy for 7 days in November

<b>Why: </b> Solo traveler with serious wanderlust looking for wonderful art, tremendous food and a much-needed break from reality

<b>How: </b> Took Lufthansa via Frankfurt to Rome. Found the fare on ITASoftware in May for $549 rt (inc. taxes) and when I couldn't get the fare myself online, I gave the code ITA gives you to a travel agent and they found it for me. Huge score for me. Service on Lufthansa was excellent, especially considering I was in coach! I made the connections coming and going in under 55 minutes (restroom stop included). My only complaint is that I am not a fan of Frankfurt airport due to its tiny waiting areas at the gates (no room for most to sit and wait) and lack of available bottled water (I just couldn't find any! Most places were &quot;out&quot;.)

<b>Pre-trip reading:</b> I re-read Michelangelo and the Pope's Ceiling by Ross King and Basilica: The Splendor and the Scandal: Building St. Peter's by RA Scotti for historical perspective. I also read Roma by Steven Saylor, which is historical fiction covering the time from just before Romulus and Remus through the assassination of Julius Caesar. I highly, highly recommend this is book if you want an entertaining way to learn ancient Roman history. I knew nothing about the Vestals, Romulus and Remus, the Sabine women, etc. This covered it all. And it was great reading to boot!

<b>Guidebooks:</b> I took Rick Steves Rome 2008 with me…there are still places he can get me into and out of succinctly that make me want to use his books (his tour of the Capitoline Museums was just about right for me) and his data (hours, addresses, prices) is usually accurate. I also use Frommers, but this will be the last time for that as I am constantly finding incorrect data in their publications, not just here but in other countries as well. I will be going back to using Cadogan in the future. As always I rely heavily on a Streetwise map.

<b>Weather:</b> The first week in November and it was cool (high 40s, low 50s at night) later in the evening and early mornings, but when the sun was up and it was late morning to late afternoon, it was high 60s and bordered on shirt-sleeves only weather. On narrow streets and piazzas where the sun doesn't reach it was cooler, but on the day in the Forum it was definitely too warm for a coat at all. Light rain on arrival day, otherwise total sunshine except for a bit of overcast in the afternoon of the 6th day. I was thrilled at this weather luck, as it had been driving rain and cold many days leading up to my trip.

<b>Hotel: </b> Hotel Pantheon, on the corner of via delle Convertite and via del Corso. This is an excellent location for touring the city (between Trevi and Pantheon, and conveniently 5 minutes to Giolitti!) and deceiving in how quiet it actually is. I didn't hear any street noise at all. It is set back off Convertite behind a security gate and off an inner courtyard. Then up four stories (three of which are served by an elevator). The staff is really very helpful and friendly. My single room, however, was the smallest I'd ever been in (about 2 feet all the way around the bed to walk, bidet directly in front of shower (step over), shower doors open inward) and I felt the bed had seen much better days. But otherwise, it was exactly what I should have expected for 116E a night. I saved my money on flight and accommodation so I could go wild with….

<b>Tours: </b> I booked with Context Rome for three tours, Helen Donegan for the private Vatican Museum after-hours tour and the Vatican Scavi tour.

<u>Context Rome's Roma Antica tour </u> – This was a four hour walking tour through Palatine Hill, the Forum and the Colosseum. Cecilia Martini was the guide and I really enjoyed her presentation. She acknowledged that to some people, what we were looking at might just be a pile of stone, so she really made a point to put things into context (pun intended) and help bring the area alive. We could have spent a bit more time in the Forum (focus was really on Palatine) but I can't say there's anything there I felt I missed either. Time was short in the Colosseum, but I'd already been there on a previous trip and after all that we'd seen and learned at the prior two locations, I didn't mind that it was relatively quick there (plus there was just less there to see than in either Palatine or the Forum). I will be sure to take Context's Classical Rome tour (the companion tour to this one) on my next visit.

<u>Context Rome's Galleria Borghese tour </u> – This was a two hour tour of the Borghese. Hilary Bockham was the guide and she was excellent. When you sign up for these tours, be sure to take advantage of the &quot;what is your interest&quot; part of the registration form, because she made a point of tying my interests in Vermeer, Rembrandt and other artists into what we were seeing in the Borghese. It was fabulous. My only complaints have to do with not having enough time in the museum. We didn't get to cover as much as I'd hoped in two hours (although we saw the big draws there) and there is also a Canova special exhibit on, but the pieces are interspersed among the permanent collection, so you have to spend part of your two hours on that; you do not have access separate from the permanent collection and outside the two hours. I will go back to the Borghese on a future visit on my own just to drink in the exquisite Berninis which I have come to appreciate so much more with Hilary's help.

<u>Context Rome's Caravaggio Seminar </u> -- This was a four hour walk with Anthony Majanlahti. The walk was to start at the Santa Maria del Popolo, move on to Sant'Agostino and San Luigi del Francesi and then on to the Galleria Doria Pamphilij. We certainly covered the churches, but had lingered at additional sights along the way so that we were literally running to fit the second and third churches in before they closed at 12:30 and our guide then left us at the entrance to the Galleria since the tour time was over. It was a bit disappointing; however, some of the sights we saw along the way were interesting enough: Canova's first and second studios, one of which was made into a very funky caf&eacute; where we had cappuccino, one of Rome's talking statues, etc. It did put Rome into context for us, but I think the tour covers a lot of territory for four hours and could be streamlined or rearranged a bit better perhaps. The Caravaggios in the churches are absolutely exquisite though, and I revisited them when I passed by on later days, since there's nothing like free-entry to great art!

<u>Italy With Us' Private After Hours Vatican Tour</u> -- I had expected this to be the highlight of my trip, and it was. After all I'd heard and read about the madhouse it can be in the Vatican Museums during regular hours, and I am unequivocally not a fan of crowds, I decided this was the best way to enjoy this to the max. The tour included the tapestries, maps, a few of the upper galleries (not the Pinacoteca), Raphael's rooms and of course the Sistine Chapel. While all of the rest was really just a pre-cursor for me, I about keeled over in ecstasy in Raphael's rooms and the Sistine Chapel. The School of Athens was just delightful and the Sistine Chapel was exquisite, all the more so because we had it to ourselves (about 15 of us) for 45 minutes. Helen Donegan set us up with a wonderful guide who was so knowledgeable and friendly and answered all our questions well. While this was quite expensive and while I wish we'd also seen some of the Pinacoteca (I'll just have to go back for this too!), this is an experience of a lifetime. Definitely a &quot;priceless&quot; moment.

<u>Vatican Scavi tour</u> -- There's not much here to be said that others haven't already said here on Fodors. I enjoyed this immensely and learned quite a bit. I would definitely recommend it to most visitors to Rome.

The one thing that really hit home for me here was when Cecelia told us that we'd learn bits and pieces about the history of Rome at different places and from different people and finally it would all come together. Well, I, being the heathen (and non-Catholic) that I am, knew nothing about St. Peter and how he was crucified upside down. I learned this from Caravaggio's The Crucifixion of St. Peter in Santa Maria del Popolo, and then, on the Scavi tour, the guide explained that part of the reason they have confirmed the bones in what they think is St. Peter's tomb to be St. Peter is the missing foot bones, which would be logical if he'd been hung on the cross from his feet (since they'd have most likely chopped the feet off to get him down). There were several more instances like this, but it is true, the more you pay attention and learn, the more it all comes together.

So, that all said, rather than give a day by day account, I'll just highlight some of my favorite sights and restaurants for future reference:

I visited 28 churches in a week. After a while, they do tend to run together, but the ones that stand out for me were: Santa Maria del Popolo for the Chigi Chapel and Caravaggios, San Prassede for the mosaics, San Pietro en Vincoli for Moses (oh my, that was just beautiful!), the Orvieto duomo for the gold and mosaic fa&ccedil;ade, St. Cecelia in Trastevere for the building and the sculpture of St. Cecelia, San Francesco e Ripa for the Blessed Ludovica Albertoni.

I absolutely love Michelangelo's work, so for me it was just a dream seeing the Sistine Chapel, the Pieta, Risen Christ, Moses, and the Campidoglio all in one week. I also grew to love Bernini's work, both in the churches there and in the Borghese. It still amazes me how much wonderful art is in churches here that is so free and accessible. And that when given the choice to mob Moses or Peter's chains, the crowd mobs Moses!!! But I felt about Moses like I did when I saw David…I really believe he is so human-like that he is about to move toward me and speak. It is amazing how lifelike he looked. Just mesmerizing.

I have a soft spot for animals, so I was completely taken by the cat sanctuary at Largo Argentina. I was following Walter's Caesar Assassination walk of the area, and knew there'd be cats, but I was pretty overwhelmed by how well the cats were taken care of and how nice the people in the shelter were. It really is a great experience and was neat to see the cats lounging and lolling about the ruins there. Also pretty cool to see &quot;the&quot; spot where Caesar fell!

The day I spent walking around Trastevere was well worthwhile. It has more of a neighborhood feel than anywhere in the centro storico, and at least on the Saturday I was milling around, there were very few tourists about.

Palazzo Barberini for the National Art Museum…this is very &quot;do-able&quot; and has some interesting pieces by El Grecco, Caravaggio and of course Raphael's Fornarina. I visited it on day one while I was walking off jetlag.

The Capitoline Museum was really very interesting, especially for its sculpture and the unique view over the Forum. I loved the Dying Gaul, Amore &amp; Psyche and Spinario (Boy with a Thorn).

Ara Pacis – I stopped here walking back from Castel Sant'Angelo and was really impressed. While it is housed in something that doesn't even remotely fit the fascist architecture neighborhood nearby, the altar itself is gorgeous. What a wonderful way to preserve it.

I did take a quick daytrip to Orvieto, but in retrospect I wish I'd stayed in Rome and revisited some places or seen other places I hadn't yet been to. Orvieto was virtually deserted and it was nice to see its gorgeous cathedral, but there wasn't much else to do there but shop (and shops were closed through lunch).

I don't know what it was, but on this trip the Pantheon captivated me. It was my first stop the day I arrived and the last place I saw the night before I left. In a light mist, in bright sun and especially lit at night, it was just beautiful. I can't explain it, but looking at it gave me that feeling that I was truly somewhere special, ancient and mystical.

Ok, for restaurants:

On one of my first nights, I was too tired to think, so I let my hotel pick my restaurant. They sent me to Ristorante Mario, the next street over from the hotel (via della Vite). The menu said it specialized in Tuscan cuisine. Indeed, the pappa al pomodoro was really good, lots of olive oil and bread! For a main course I had a beef done in wine and tomato. The beef just fell apart with a fork but it was barely warm and didn't appear to be cooked through well at all. I wasn't comfortable with how undercooked it was, so I didn't finish it. Total bill here 28E.

It took me several days (due to the long All Saint's Day weekend during which the restaurant appeared to be closed) to get into Armando al Pantheon, but I finally did. On my last night I had gnocchi alla gorgonzola and a bruschetta with a hot pepperoni spread, along with a semifreddo. All of it was heavenly. The gnocchi was unlike any I had ever had before as it absolutely melted in my mouth. With a glass of wine, the total bill was 28E.

In Orvieto, I stopped in at La Taverna dell'Etrusco on via della Misericordia. I had the pappardelle alla pesto and bruschetta (six pieces, each with a different spread) and a bottle of water for about 18E, I believe. The pasta was really very tasty.

Above the Colosseum is Hostaria de Nerone (a Frommers recommendation on via delle Terme di Tito). This was a good choice for a quick lunch after the Forum tour. I had the spaghetti all'Amatriciana which was quite good and veal saltimbocca alla romana which I wrote in my journal &quot;was to die for&quot;. So I guess it was good. I didn't write down how much this was, but I recall it being quite reasonable (in line with my other choices). A nice location too if you've just left the Colosseum and are moving on to St. Pietro en Vincoli.

A good find for me was one in National Geographic Traveler that arrived just as I left home. Ristorante Arlu on Borgo Pio near the Vatican was a great stop post-Basilica touring and on the way to Castel Sant'Angelo. It was full of priests the day I walked in for lunch, and remained full the entire time I was there. I had the insalata caprese, rigatoni con salsiccia, apple cake and cappuccino. I have 22E written down for this one. It was really good in a neighborhood where I'd been led to believe there weren't any &quot;good&quot; choices!

And after the private Vatican Museum tour, Helen recommended Dino and Tony's on via Leone IV, which three of us chose to try out when she said it was &quot;fun&quot; and had the best amatriciana in the city. She was right on both counts. It's one of those places where they ask you &quot;Appetizer?&quot;, you say yes and all of a sudden there are 10 appetizers on your table. Then they say &quot;Pasta&quot; and you all have pasta, and again and again. And then &quot;carne or pesce?&quot; and you have your main course. Then dessert, then dessert wine. It is a convivial atmosphere, lots of locals, family style seating. It was an incredibly fun experience, the staff were great with us. For three of us, with 2 bottles of wine, it was 89E. This was my best meal there, I think…or maybe tied with Armando.

Gelato….I never found San Crispino, but I tried Giolitti, Blue Ice and Palma. I think hands down I liked Giolitti the best. I tended to find myself gravitating back there. I noticed a lot more &quot;exotic&quot; flavors than on my prior trips to Italy, like sacher torte and gingerbread. I tended to gravitate more towards the traditional flavors like fior di crema and zuppa inglese. That's not to say that I'd turn down Bailey's flavored gelato if I could get my hands on it.


Overall, I return quite smitten with Rome. I will definitely return and was not at all troubled being a solo female traveler. I felt comfortable out and about late at night (midnight was the latest I was out) and never felt threatened or nervous. There is just so much to do, I was overwhelmed at my choices and what I wanted to do and still have left to do! Thank goodness I tossed that coin in at the Trevi Fountain!

amyb Nov 13th, 2007 06:17 AM

Correcting myself already....that's Hotel Parlamento. I have Pantheon on the brain, see? ;-)

ekscrunchy Nov 13th, 2007 06:24 AM

Excellent report, Amy! I am glad to read of your experience at Hotel Parlamento..I agree that the location is superb. We thought of staying there earlier this year as their prices are really low (chose another hotel instead) ..perhaps a step up in room class would guarantee a larger room...??

Your report is really well done. Glad you had a wonderful trip.

jabez Nov 13th, 2007 06:26 AM

Thanks for the report!
We arrived and left a day before you and agree that the weather was great. I haven't had time to do a report (we also stayed in orvieto,Greve and Florence this trip)yet, but it looks like you and my wife would get along. She just LOVES anything about Michelangelo. We did a private Michelangelo tour/seminar in Florence and even found hiss rome house (facade)at the end of the park on top of Janiculum hill.

amyb Nov 13th, 2007 06:31 AM

Yes, ek, I would upgrade the room if I stayed there again, but at the end of the week, I'd gotten used to it and it didn't really bother me at all. Again, the price was right and the location great.

Jabez, another reason to go back! I'd wanted to get up the Janiculum Hill. Starting my list for next time...

ekscrunchy Nov 13th, 2007 06:38 AM

I know what you mean about the room. So many times I have been shown a room which, at first glance, looks really disappointing (ugly, small, etc) And so many times, as long as the bed and the reading lights are decent... I get used to it after a few nights.. With that location and that price I would be willing to overlook a few flaws!

JeanneB Nov 13th, 2007 07:18 AM

eks: We stayed at Hotel Parlamento last year in their standard double. If anything, it was roomier than I had expected, not tiny at all. He let me look at the terrace rooms. Don't know how much more they cost now, but they would definitely be worth checking out. (Amyb, is the hotel's construction work finished?)

amyb Nov 13th, 2007 07:54 AM

The courtyard is still being repaved, tiled, etc. There are piles of tile and bags of concrete all over the place, but no noise during sleeping hours. You also can't use the elevator off the courtyard, but the inner one, up a flight of stairs.

Phyllish Nov 13th, 2007 08:26 AM

Nice succinct report. Thanks!

tomassocroccante Nov 13th, 2007 08:32 AM

re enjoying art:
an important observation, amy, that sometimes good choosing will lead to an optimal experience.

Each time I've been to Sta Maria del Popolo I've been virtually alone with Bernini's two prophets in the Chigi (Daniel and H...?) And usually the Caravaggio's can also be enjoyed with some peace and contemplation.

When you finally get back to the VM to see the pinotecca, you'll find it has the air of an exclusive enclave compared with most of the galleries (and certainly with the chapel or Stanze) = you'll also find yourself inches from Leonardo's St. Jerome, in a room with Raphael altarpieces basically at eye level, etc.

Back to work = maybe I can earn my way to Rome this year!

annhig Nov 13th, 2007 08:36 AM

hi, amy,

great report. isn't Rome amazing?

regards, ann

travelgirl2 Nov 13th, 2007 08:39 AM

I really enjoyed your report. My husband and son took Context Rome's Roma Antica tour and loved it too. Maybe next time I'll have to join them on another of their tours...

nancy1652 Nov 13th, 2007 08:46 AM

Wonderful report and so easy to read! Have copied it for our next trip. Thanks so much.

Dayle Nov 13th, 2007 10:02 AM

Thanks for the great trip report Amy! It sounds like you really got the most out of your tours.

You might want to try another visit to Orvieto. There is actually a lot to see there besides the duomo. The underground tour, Etrucan museum and tombs, well, and the shops and galleries are excellent!


gentlemagician Nov 13th, 2007 12:52 PM

Thanks for your overview. I found it really informative. I have also read and 'loved' Roma by Saylor. Now I have 13 sleeps until I am back in the Eternal City.

Royal Nov 13th, 2007 01:21 PM

Amy. Great trip report. Thanks for posting.

We too stayed at the Parlamento and enjoyed it very much. We had one of the terrace rooms which although not large it was lovely to be able to have breakfast and drinks before dinner right outside the room.

Am surprised they are still working on the courtyard as it was under construction when we were there over 2 years ago. Pretty slow.

However, as you said a very good location.

SusanP Nov 13th, 2007 02:08 PM

Lovely report, Amy. I can't wait to get back to Rome, but it's fun to read reports like this in the meantime! I hope you also went down to the crypt in St. Cecilia in Trastavere. Amazing mosaic chapel down there.

samsmom1127 Nov 13th, 2007 03:31 PM

Wow, Amy, great report, so organized and easy to read. My 14 y.o. daughter and I visited Rome and Florence last February. We loved both, but we agree that sometimes we just ache to be back in Rome. We were fortunate enough to stay in the square just behind the Pantheon, and made it our first stop of each day and last of each evening. I agree that (other than the Pantheon, of course!) rather than one thing, the most amazing thing is all of the art and history just right out there in front of you. And finally, Armando al Pantheon was my favorite restaurant of the visit. I'm glad you liked it too!

IslandTour Nov 13th, 2007 04:38 PM

Thanks for the report. It's very helpful for my planning.


Sally30 Nov 13th, 2007 06:27 PM

Thanks for the report. How much were the Vatican After Hours and the Caravaggio Tours? How far in advance did you have to book them?

LowCountryIslander Nov 13th, 2007 07:02 PM

Amyb...

Thanks for posting a great trip report. I will be in Rome for Christmas week and your restaurant recommendations are very much appreciated! :)

tomassocroccante Nov 13th, 2007 08:31 PM

Ever hear of taking the vacuum cleaner out when someone arrives unannounced, so it will at least LOOK like you're cleaning the house? Maybe they've done that with the cement and tile ... you never actually fix the courtyard, but it always looks like you're in the middle of it!

JeanneB Nov 14th, 2007 01:25 AM

LOL! Never done that...but only because I didn't think of it!

Speaking of construction, something I noticed in Rome last week. Last year, we loved the scaffolding drapes painted to look like a building. This trip I never saw one. Has something changed or was I just less observant?

Vttraveler Nov 14th, 2007 03:34 AM

amyb--I really enjoyed your trip report.

Since you mention that you liked the Ross King book and got interested in Bernini on this trip, you might want to read Jake Morrissey's The Genius in the Design: Bernini, Borromini and the Rivalry that Transformed Rome. (I got it after a family trip to Rome earlier this year and enjoyed it after the trip, though I wished I had read it before) The Lost Painting by Jonathan Harr is also a good read about Caravaggio

Our family stayed at an apartment in the ghetto about 2 blocks away from the Area Sacra dell'Argentina and we stopped several times a day to watch and count the cats in the ruins.

You should definitely visit the Pinacoteca on your next trip to Rome--much less crowded than the sistine Chapel and Raphael rooms and full of amazing works including, in addition to those already mentioned,
the Deposition by Caravaggio and Giotto's Stefaneschi Triptych

amyb Nov 14th, 2007 04:50 AM

Thanks for all the feedback...

A confession, if I may...I visited Rome for 8 hours on a day trip in 2002 and really didn't feel the love, which is why I managed to avoid it on repeated trips since then. I don't know what possessed me to go back now, but I am still walking about dreamy-eyed thinking about it. Just goes to show, you *cannot* get the feel of a place in a day!

I neglected to mention also used a guide book by Fodors, I believe called &quot;Holy Rome&quot; which was printed for the Jubilee in 2000 and had a writeup on just about every church in Rome (seriously!), which is how I picked where I wanted to go and was able to at least read something about every church I was in whereas regular guidebooks only cover the biggies. I picked this up used on Half.com and will certainly keep it for future reference.

Sally, the Caravaggio walk was 60E per person and I booked it about 6 weeks ahead online. Helen Donegan's Vatican Museum tour was 250E and I booked it in May and booked my airfare and hotel around the date! She only offers it a few times a month, so you really have to plan ahead.

Vttraveler, I have already read The Lost Painting, and enjoyed that one. I will certainly add the Bernini/Borromini book to my list. I found it interesting that depending on who I asked, I got different answers as to how deep the &quot;rivalry&quot; was.

tomassocroccante Nov 15th, 2007 09:40 AM

Amy, IMO Roma is so rich and complex that a short first-time visit is often destined to leave one frustrated and definitely not in love. You read over and over here about folks who had 36 hrs, 48 hrs etc and just didn't like Rome. I had a similar experience my first trip: 4 or 5 hours with a friend who then took me to the town where he and his wife were living, and a day on my own later. &quot;Too hot, too rushed (and I live in NYC) and too tiring&quot; were my thoughts at the time, I believe. Add too dense and charmless.

When I came back for ten days a couple of years later, Rome hadn't changed, but my experience of Rome did. One of my favorite places ...

BarbaraJ Nov 15th, 2007 12:12 PM

Amyb - thanks for a great report. I like the way you manage to give the facts but also your impressions in such a succinct manner.

We may have to do the after hours tour of the Vatican Museums next trip. When we went I wanted to spend time in the Map Room and nearly got swept away by the herd heading for the Sistene Chapel!

Sorry you didn't find San Crispina. It's a couple blocks from the Trevi Fountain and doesn't have a store front with gelato piled high. But it does have wonderful gelato with some very unique flavors. The pear gelato was wonderful!

Sally30 Nov 15th, 2007 06:29 PM

Thanks Amy for the price info.

To add to the gelato discussion, I really didn't like Giolitti this trip (well, as much as you can dislike any gelato). One of our favorite places was a dumpy looking place called Tutti Frutti (groan) that was near the Largo Argentina. Another great place was next to Da Baffeto (which I would NOT recommend unless you feel like waiting over an hour for a pizza that is good but not much better than other good pizza in Rome). My favorite place was on via dei coronari (I think). They had all these amazing unusual flavors. not very helpful I realize but I'll try to remember the name or give a better location.

tomassocroccante Nov 15th, 2007 07:30 PM

Tutti Frutti may sound corny to our American ears (anyone know the pop song of that name from the 50s - &quot;Gotta gal, named Sue, she knows just what to do ... A-bop-bop-a-loo-bop, a whop bam boo.&quot;) but it's a much love gelateria!

amyb Nov 16th, 2007 05:33 AM

Perhaps that's why I didn't find San Crispino, I was wandering in the dark and looking for the obvious enticing display of tubs of gelato...

Posting pictures, if you're still reading along:
http://tinyurl.com/29xnad

Barbara, it will whet your appetite to see how vacant the corridor with the maps was in the Vatican Museum when we were there on the after hours tour!

And as if I need further encouragement, I now have a half-dozen or so gelato recommendations from you all. Guess I'll have to go back! :-)

fun4all4 Nov 16th, 2007 07:34 AM

Bookmarking to read later. Thanks for sharing - I always love your reports and I love Rome. :-)

I usually travel with either my DH or, most often, our whole family (meaning DH and our 2 sons, ages 13 and 16). I have also traveled with a girlfriend. However, I have read a number of solo reports recently (JeanneB, travelgirl2, TRSW, and others) that have gotten me wishing for some of the experiences and freedoms that only an individual trip allows. Hmmmm....

amyb Nov 16th, 2007 08:11 AM

Just do it, Fun4All4! I will admit that on this trip more than any other, I wish I had someone to turn to and share my awe and breathless excitement. But trade that for the ability to be totally whimsical, change plans on a dime and meet a lot of wonderful people who really influenced my experience, well, that's kind of priceless.

travelgirl_67 Nov 16th, 2007 08:36 AM

Amy, loved the report...I too will be a solo female traveler 1 Dec - 7 Dec. So glad to hear your feedback on Context as I'm booked on 2 of their tours. I also have tickets to the Scavi tour and am very excited.

I have a question about the Vatican After Hours tour...I'm with you on the feeling of crowds esp. for such a place. Did you truly feel it was worth the 250E price?

Many thanks!



amyb Nov 16th, 2007 09:06 AM

Travel_girl67, I thought it was worth it and I'd go back do it again. Honestly! But I truly love both Raphael and Michelangelo, and their works are where you spend the bulk of your time. For me, 45 minutes basically alone in the Sistine Chapel was a dream. I think if you have only a passing interest in either artist's work, it might not be as worthwhile for you. But the others on my tour also felt that it was one of those &quot;priceless&quot; experiences.

BarbaraJ Nov 16th, 2007 09:10 AM

Amy - thanks for the pictures! You're right - I'm envious of your tour of the Vatican Museums. We're definately doing that tour next time if we can! I'm also amazed that they let you take pictures in the Sistene Chapel. When we were in there with the masses, no photos were allowed.

We liked our Context Roma Antica tour as well, but we started at the Colosseum and spent more time than I would have liked. We breezed through the forum and ended with the Palentine which is an area we were more interested in and would have liked to spend more time.

Thanks too for the reassurance about traveling alone. I have an opportunity to go back to Italy next fall - Parma for a week with a group but then by myself after that.

travelgirl_67 Nov 16th, 2007 10:53 AM

Thanks Amy! I just sent an email requesting a ticket for 6 December...my last night in Rome and I think it would a perfect way to spend my last few hours in the city. The last time I was in the Sistine Chapel was 20 years ago and most of the ceiling was covered for some restoration and there were hourds of people so this tour is perfect for me. Thanks again!

amyb Nov 17th, 2007 09:44 AM

travelgirl, you will be absolutely astounded by the colors then, if the last time you saw it was pre-restoration. They are just so vibrant. I agree, it's a wonderful way to end your trip!!! Please let me know how you make out.

travelgirl_67 Nov 17th, 2007 07:06 PM

Amyb - rec'd email from Helen and if 11 more folks don't sign up, the tour will be canceled so I've posted a thread to see if any Fodorites will be in Rome and interested in the tour. I'm keeping my fingers crossed as I really want to take the tour...esp after looking at your pic...you're right, the colors are amazing!

I'll post a report upon my return.


Keiracaitlyn Nov 17th, 2007 08:07 PM

Thanks for the report! My trip to Rome ended just before you got there, but was only half the time in length as yours. Now I have more ideas for when I go back!

ParadiseLost Nov 18th, 2007 12:39 PM

Hi Amy,
I'm glad you enjoyed the Largo Argentina section of my Julius Caesar Assassination Walk.

After 5yrs of emailing it and posting it someone has finally admitted to actually taking it...Thanks :).
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34646917

This one about St. Peter's tomb might also interest you even though it is after the fact. Just skip over the ticket and entrance parts.
Even as a heathen myself I do believe it is his tomb.
http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34888402

Glad you had a wonderful trip and great tripreport and pictures. Regards, Walter


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