Question about 6 days unlimited Jungfrau pass
 

This looks like it covers almost everything. If we had this pass and wanted to do the typical hikes and sights, what do you see that is not covered?

http://www.swisspasses.com/railpass/...rau-unlimited/

I see Junfrau is at 50%. I do not see that Schilthorn is covered. We would be staying in Murren, and were told to park our car in Stechlberg, and I do not see that the cable car from Stechlberg to Murren is covered?

Thanks!

Seems like a new ( or maybe not ) pass. Apparantly Stechelberg - Mürren - Schilthorn cable car is not covered at all and you will have to pay 100%. The other cabelcar and trains ( First, Schynige Platte, Grutschalp, etc ) are all part of Jungfrau Railways (Not Schilthorn cables) so this is a product made by Jungfrau Railways + Thun/Brienz Boat company.

http://www.swisstravelsystem.com/en/...-oberland.html

Have you looked at the Berner Oberland Pass which if I read correctly does cover the Shilthorn in full and is wider ranging I believe it say going to Bern or Lucerne.

by looking at the Jungfraubahn map no no coverage apparently at all except main route Lauterbrunnen-Grutschalp-Murren nothing beyond - you can also park your car in Lauterbrunnen's parking garage or other places.

Swiss Passes do cover 100% both routes Lauterbrunnen Valley to Murren - either via Stechleberg or Grutschalp and cable in between Murren and Gimmelwald and of course travel to Lauterbrunnen - if you are visiting other places in Switzerland the Swiss Pass may interest you and I believe having a pass gives you a discount also off the Jungfraubahn Pass.

Potential problem right here:

<Ticket is valid for any SIX CONSECUTIVE day period from 1st May until 20th October 2013>

I think it is new. 6 consectutive days is fine (there is also a 4 day pass) We would be staying in Murren for 5 nights in 2014, Murren or Grindelwald for 7 nights 2015, and are interested mostly in the pass for getting to different villages, hikes, sightseeing etc.

We will have a car so I don't think the Swiss Pass would be helpful.

It looks like if we left the car in Lauterbrunnen that we could get to Murren via Grutschalp, but apparently that takes longer?

<Lauterbrunnen that we could get to Murren via Grutschalp, but apparently that takes longer?>

Not really.

Sitting in Lauterbrunnen at this very moment, enjoying the winter weather.

Yes with a car no Swiss Pass - sorry I forgot about that even though you mentioned parking - if you are not traveling around by car other places though taking the train here and back would be best - I have gone to Murren both ways and I would say that with the new cable car Lauterbrunnen to Grtuschalp replacing the antique funicular that also had capacity problems it should not take that much longer - and the train ride Grutschalp to Murren along the edge of the cliff - seemingly - is always awesome except after dark of course.

Don't miss Gimmelwald - a stop on the Stechelberg to Murren gondolas and a short enough downhill stroll from Murren - not much in Gimmelwald but it is totally unique. And Rick Steves did NOT invent Gimmelwald.

Cheers,

From the validity map it is clear that the Schilthorn is not included - see

http://www.swisspasses.com/railpass/...rau-unlimited/

And see the Schilthorn “Ferienpass” validity map at

http://schilthorn.ch/en/Angebot/Time...iffs/Timetable

I suggest you contact the Swiss Travel System (for who they are and what they do, see http://www.swisstravelsystem.com/en/...ompany-en.html), telling them exactly what and where you want to visit, and when and within what timeframe, and let them advise you, since they hold sway over all these member systems and their passes.

Use the Contact form on their website (this URL may work -
http://www.swisstravelsystem.com/en/...ompany-en.html -
or you may have to click on the link yourself).

If Murren is that last stop on a trip after driving around Switzerland why not just ditch the car in Interlaken and spend your days there car-less as cars are useless in that area and take the train to Zurich airport from Interlaken?

Or perhaps you are going there in betweencar jaunts around Switzerland? But ditching car could save a lot of money on car rental and parking fees if you can organize your trip like that.

Hi PalenQ ~ not really an option either trip. Next year we will be in the Alsace region for a week before 5 nights in Murren and 3 nights in Bern. If we go in 2015 with my brother and his family we will fly into Munich, stay in Berchtesgaden and Fussen before driving to Grindelwald, and then flying out of Zurich. I had debated dropping the car in Meersburg or somewhere and taking a train to Grindelwald, but we may have an additional stop or 2 between Fussen and Grindelwald.

We did do a "car free" trip in Switzerland several years ago and it was great!

And no, we won't miss Gimmelwald. Next years trip is planned because we found Murren and Gimmelwald so enchanting. I'm pretty excited that it is in late June/early July, hoping there will still be some wildflowers hanging around.

Melnq8 ~ not fair, green with envy!

Stechelberg - Murren is covered and Murren - Schilthorn is half fare.
Kleine Scheidegg - Jungfraujoch, Interlaken - Heimwehfluh and the buses around Grindelwald are falf fare too, everything else in the Jungfrau area is fully covered by theBErnese Oberland Pass.
Have a look at
http://www.regiopass-berneroberland....ich_web_13.pdf
http://www.regiopass-berneroberland....e-of-validity/
http://www.regiopass-berneroberland.ch/

BTW: it would probably be easier to give back a car at Konstanz than at tiny Meersburg.

Hi wrenwood,
I've stayed in Lauterbrunnen twice. If you park in the parking garage in Lauterbrunnen and take the cable car to Grutschalp and the train to Murren it really will not take any more time than driving to the far end of the valley and taking the Stechelberg cable car up to Murren.

Thanks Michele, it looks like that it covered on the pass.

so many passes so many options- looks like Berner Oberland Pass is the deal!

<It looks like if we left the car in Lauterbrunnen that we could get to Murren via Grutschalp, but apparently that takes longer?>

We this in reverse today - took about 20 minutes, end to end.

Beautiful day in Murren today...BEAUTIFUL. We've visited many times, but those incredible views never get old. We've had flawless weather for the past two weeks - snow expected for tomorrow.

Rosti and gluhwein for dinner tonight...yum.

Thanks all, pretty excited, not too long until we leave!

Another question has come up. When ordering online, do they mail passes to you or can you print them from your computer?

No reason for ordering any Swiss Pass online I believe - you can buy any pass, except the Swiss Transfer Ticket which few would find a great deal, once in Switzerland at any train station. I believe mailing from online orders involves a significant mailing fee - if I recall past posts about this accurately.

Now is buying a Swiss Pass or Swiss Card then you may want to, if you live in the U.S. or Canada see what RailEurope is charging for the exact same pass - often more than not in the past several years the passes have been, sometimes significantly more, expensive than in Switzerland - plus you have to figure in any 3% or so your credit card charges for foreign transactions - even of course, for online purchases.

So compare North American prices with Swiss franc prices - most agents here have no mailing fees anymore except for rush overnight services maybe - I have bought various passes from Byron at www.budgeteuropetravel.com for years and if you have any questions he will expertly IME answer them if even you habve already bought passes or are not buying. I do not think you can print Swiss Passes on computers - in any case you have to activate the pass in Switzerland by going up to a train-station counter to validate the pass - they put the dates of validity on it then - you have to do that only within six months of issuance.

You may ask about a current special someone mentioned on a another thread - about a free extra day or something on Swiss Passes.

Visiting Gimmelwald is like watching paint dry.

If you are going from Murren to Stechelberg by gondola, then have a look at Gimmelwald but there really isn't anything there except some houses.

Keith and I sat on a bench on the second tier near the small hotel and ate a can of Pringles, looking a the side of a mountain.

We saw 2 people the entire time we were there.

There is a small cafe the size of a lawnmower shed near the gondola station.

Thin

<We saw 2 people the entire time we were there.>

A major attraction as far as I'm concerned!

Melnq8:
<We saw 2 people the entire time we were there.>

There are tons of similar places in the Swiss Alps, but foreign tourists usually don't want to go there because they are not mentioned in guidebooks.

This foreign tourist does (and has):)

This foreign tourist has been to Gimmelwald several times, including sleeping in the low-key youth hostel there and another time sleeping in the straw - a cow barn that when bovines are out in the summer they (used to not any longer I believe) put straw down with sleeping bags for hikers and anyone to sleep in.

"There is nothing there" - yes and that's just great:

https://www.google.com/search?q=gimm...w=1455&bih=978

If in Murren instead of taking the cable car to Gimmelwald, there is a short sweet downhill walk along a paved foot path that yields great views over the Lauterbrunnen gorge en route - walking that few kms is better than taking the cable way on this portion IMO.

"This foreign tourist does (and has)"

because it's in the holy Jungfrau area, I guess.

It might not be the same at places like Zuort, Chants, Partnun, Lü, Pontirone, Pian delle Cascine, Gspon, Saulesses, Mandelon, Commeire, etc. (all unspoilt places in the Swiss Alps).

Even the Swiss don't know where Gimmelwald is.

It might not be the same at places like Zuort, Chants, Partnun, Lü, Pontirone, Pian delle Cascine, Gspon, Saulesses, Mandelon, Commeire, etc. (all unspoilt places in the Swiss Alps).>

so these are all Gimmelwald like places - tiny farming hamlets out in the middle of nowhere's awesome scenery? Thanks.

Visiting Gimmelwald is like watching paint dry.>

Thin has a very different take on things than many folks - she/he recently said Spiez and Thun were as nice as Lucerne - different strokes for different folks - and we all give our subjective takes on places - one may love it the other loathe it.

No, I DO NOT have an unusual take on things.

People visit Gimmelwald because it is recommended in Rick Steves' travel guide for CH.

I can understand wanting to sleep there because it is so quiet.

I don't understand the NEED to visit and stare at some Swiss houses and sheds.

Thin

Thun is very nice and honestly, underrated.

I think you misunderstood my post neckervd -

I'm a fan of areas with very few people in general. The BO has become too crowded for my tastes, but there's no denying how beautiful it is. I loved the Engadine and Zuort.

I thought there was a lot to see and experience in Gimmelwald. The architecture, building materials and lifestyle, it was like an outdoor museum. Loved their garden gnomes, vegetable and flower gardens, goats, stacks of firewood waiting for winter. When we were there they were making hay by hand. Beauty everywhere.

I realize their way of life is subsidized by the government, and Rick Steve's has made Gimmelwald popular. Don't care, I think it is lovely, and can't wait to be there and watch the paint dry one day!

Thanks for the links for the passes, I'm not sure which ones my husband has checked on, but we will now be staying in Murren for a week, so we are checking out other options, we may buy the 6 day pass and another 4 day pass which covers the Schilthorn and Stechelburg to Murren.

And it sounds like buying them when we are there makes the most sense. Can we buy in Lauterbrunnen when we park the car?

You buy those passes at the train station in Lauterbrunnen - not sure where the parking lots are for long-term stays but Lauterbrunnen is a rather small town.

BTW: if your unspoilt small village with glacier views must absolutely be close to Lauterbrunnen, you may check Sulwald too

Neckervd, I think Google found Suwald for me, how do we get there?

And PalenQ , thanks for the tip on walking to Gimmelwald, we did that last time we were there and enjoyed it immensely.

Sounds like you have to do a fairly rugged hike!

http://www.myswitzerland.com/en-us/a...h-sulwald.html

I was putting in Suwald - wren's typo instead of Sulwald!

http://www.visitscotland.com/en-us/

thanks - I also enjoyed walking from Grutschalp, the upper terminus of the aerial cable way from Lauterbrunnen, to Murren via a stop at the famous restaurant/cafe with ubiqutious sun terrace about half way - stunning views from the path down into the Lauterbrunnen Valley - do not get too close to the cliff's edge of course - and smack opposite the majestic Jungfrau Massif in all its glory. A well-beaten flat easy few-mile walk, not a hike.

Many Germans and Swiss in Leiderhosens were on the trail when I took it - of course with their walking sticks!

Germans in Lederhosen: yes!
Swiss people in Lederhosen: rather unbelievable!

Well I did not know if they were Schweizer Deutsch or whatever you call German-speaking Swiss or Germans themselves - so now I know - German speakers in Lederhosen are Germans not German Swiss. Thanks for the up take on that.