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shell Oct 4th, 2001 03:31 AM

Plane Crash
 
A plane from Israel to Russia crashed this morning. No more details, but I'm sure that they'll be coming soon.

s.fowler Oct 4th, 2001 03:45 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wor...00/1579072.stm

dan woodlief Oct 4th, 2001 04:33 AM

There is also info on CNN's world news page.

Tim Oct 4th, 2001 05:51 AM

Putin has just announced that he believes it was a terrorist attack. Isreal suspends all flights. This is only the beginning folks.....

Stop it Oct 4th, 2001 06:21 AM

Tim, Why add something like "this is only the beginning folks"? We are all well aware of the world we now live in. No need to scare people unless you have specific info!

No Name Oct 4th, 2001 06:37 AM

I guess we now know that U.S. airport security is no better and no worse than security in India and Russia. <BR> <BR>Somehow, that doesn't make me feel too great.

John Oct 4th, 2001 07:29 AM

CNN is reporting that the Ukraine Military accidentally shot the plane down during a "training mission". <BR> <BR>http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe...ash/index.html <BR> <BR>Fox News has the same report. <BR> <BR>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,35707,00.html <BR>

Geez Oct 4th, 2001 07:32 AM

This is only the beginning of what??? Hysteria?! The most current information suggests that this was a military accident. Tragic, yes. Terrorism, no. You can come out of your bomb shelter now, Tim.

Tim Oct 4th, 2001 07:37 AM

Well . . looks like I am a bigger idiot than everyone thought . . I guess it is the beggining of the Ukraine shooting down Russian airplanes? ? <BR> <BR>What do I know anyway?

s.fowler Oct 4th, 2001 08:59 AM

Reuters is now reporting the "errant missle" theory: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2001...rash_dc_7.html

Tim Oct 4th, 2001 09:02 AM

Yeah . . I missed that . . I was down in the bomb shelter where I have been the last four weeks. . can't be to carefull!

Gullible Oct 4th, 2001 09:47 AM

Er, if the Russian government says this is a military accident instead of a terrorist attack, why on earth would you believe a word they say? We may never know.

ingrid Oct 4th, 2001 11:27 AM

According to DPA (German Press Agency), Russian President Putin doubts that Ukrainian military shot down the plane because (a) the missiles don't have such a wide range, and (b) Russian observers were present during the Ukrainian military exercises.

StCirq Oct 4th, 2001 12:09 PM

President Putin has reportedly discounted the missile theory. On the other hand, El Al says there cannot have been a bomb on board. I think I heard on the news this morning that the plane stopped in Bulgaria and several passengers boarded there. Bulgaria may be the weak link.

z Oct 4th, 2001 04:03 PM

Hell . . Vladimir would rather admit a 13 year old Afgansitani girl with a slingshot brought itdown before he would credit the Ukrainian military. <BR> <BR>

s.fowler Oct 4th, 2001 04:06 PM

z -- thanks for the "realpolitik"

z Oct 4th, 2001 04:17 PM

Your welcome . . A Glasnote we call it . .

s.fowler Oct 4th, 2001 04:18 PM

ROTFL!

LOL Oct 4th, 2001 06:44 PM

How could it have been a Ukranian missle ,there were Russin observers there, probably the same ones who watched he Kursk(sp).

Monica Oct 4th, 2001 10:00 PM

Hmmm, it just sounds too coincidental to me to NOT be the Ukraine. They were testing missles in the same area a plane was shot down by a missle? Guess their munitions are better than they thought.


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