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Lois2 May 9th, 2016 01:02 PM

my post is for Hello above ...nothing important or really do to with PP...

kerouac May 9th, 2016 01:22 PM

<i>Kerouac, I am curious. Does your building "own' the bank on the ground floor.</i>

No, the bank owns its own space. In fact, it used to own the entire building, which it sold off little by little. Now it is down to about 45% but the rest of us have a great advantage because for the last 20 years, it has given its voting rights to the rest of us automatically. It might decide that this was a mistake after the next vote.

iris1745 May 9th, 2016 03:18 PM

Lois2; Disregard my ???

fuzzbucket May 9th, 2016 10:44 PM

I wanted to move last year, and when I reviewed the regulations of the condo association, I discovered that the building had voted to not allow any more restaurants or food stores on the ground floor after the current restaurant space had been sold (the 59 other residents were tired of noise, odors, rodents, etc). But since the restaurant had not been sold yet, and I would have been living directly above an unknown entity, I decided to look elsewhere.

fuzzbucket May 9th, 2016 10:52 PM

I wanted to move last year, and when I reviewed the regulations of the condo association, I discovered that the building had voted to not allow any more restaurants or food stores on the ground floor after the current restaurant space had been sold (the 59 other residents were tired of noise, odors, rodents, etc). But since the restaurant had not been sold yet, and I would have been living directly above an unknown entity, I decided to look elsewhere.

Sue - the government is not interested in running the vacation rental industry. The government is interested in collecting taxes on revenue received, assuring that salaries and benefits are paid, and that rentals meet standards for safety and sanitation.

The business models of AirBnB and Uber do not support these issues, and though they are very popular at the present time, the long-term effect on the economy would be disastrous. It would be as if you stopped paying into your retirement fund - when the time came, you'd have nothing.

StuDudley May 10th, 2016 06:15 AM

AirBnB pays the required "hotel tax" to The City in San Francisco. They even had to "back pay" for taxes for the period where they didn't pay taxes. I think it was a "negotiated" settlement - but the City got the better deal, as I recall. Also remember that AirBnB is a San Francsico company and donates a lot of money to politicians & "charities".

Stu Dudley

kerouac May 10th, 2016 06:18 AM

The data base for legal apartments in Paris is now accessible, but there are only 107 apartments on it so far.

http://www.lepoint.fr/high-tech-inte...2038209_47.php

Sarastro May 10th, 2016 07:29 AM

I am sure that all of Paris Perfect´s apartments are on the list.

CarolA May 10th, 2016 07:52 AM

I am not sure how you would ever know if your apartment is on the list. I tried to follow the links and gave up. If it's there, they have hidden it from me :)

CarolA May 10th, 2016 08:03 AM

We need an edit button. I found the link! But it must be popular because it's very slow.

That said I pulled up one ParisPerfect and ... I think it's on the list (It's hard to be sure since ParisPerfect does not give you an address, but it's definitively on the same street in the same area. That's a good sign!)


I also don't think the apartment I nearly rented from another agency is on the list. I kind of expected that.

Lois2 May 10th, 2016 08:34 AM

Same street? I think the only way to get an address is after you pay and then it is sometimes pretty general.

Judy May 10th, 2016 08:42 AM

I found a couple I've rented from Paris Vacation Apartments on the list.

CarolA May 10th, 2016 09:29 AM

Well I changed my mind. Paris Perfect shows about 6 units in the area where the map shows one. Hmmm.....

fuzzbucket May 10th, 2016 09:37 AM

I think this is just the list of legal AirBnB listings. I didn't see any mention about any other agencies. If I'm wrong about this, someone please correct me.

Judy May 10th, 2016 09:51 AM

I'm certain there may be several units at the same address.....this list doesn't specify.

Sue_xx_yy May 10th, 2016 01:13 PM

<i> Sue - the government is not interested in running the vacation rental industry. </i>

fuzzbucket, they don't have to actually run it, they would just redirect from the master list to the individual websites (or emails, or phone numbers). It would still be up to the vendor to collect the rents and to submit taxes.

Many Canadian provinces have for decades published a list of rentals in order to promote tourism. This would be just a variation of the same thing.

StuDudley May 10th, 2016 01:31 PM

>>the government is not interested in running the vacation rental industry. <<

How would you classify the Gites de France organization?

http://www.gites-de-france.com/

Stu Dudley

Whathello May 10th, 2016 01:48 PM

That is a federation. It can but mustn't be state owned, or directed or even followed by the state.

Freom Wikipedia :

On appelle aussi fédération une institution représentant plusieurs associations ou coopératives (par exemple une fédération nationale de clubs de football ou de mutuelles d'assurance).

La Fédération Nationale des Gîtes de France est une association qui regroupe des associations départementales pour la promotion et la commercialisation d'hébergements touristiques et décerne des labels non officiels aux logements de tourisme répondant à un cahier des charges.

Whathello May 10th, 2016 01:49 PM

Not mustn't but needn't I suppose.

Judy May 11th, 2016 05:15 AM

Is it a safe assumption that, if an address is on the list, that the building does not prohibit short term rentals?


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