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birthdaygirlstrip Mar 23rd, 2006 02:28 PM

Packing a blanket......suggestions?
 
Ok...since I am getting very creeped out by the bug issue....here is what I am thinking...

Pack a light clean white sheet to put entirely over the bed. I will be in the uk and italy in May, so it shouldn't be too cold.

Take my super light but super warm fuzzy blanket to use as a top blanket.

I mean, what exactly are bedbugs? Do they just stay under the covers...or do they crawl all over the place!!

Yikes! I am getting the willies!!!

auldyins Mar 23rd, 2006 02:33 PM

At least a white sheet will show up the little bugs in the morning! Seriously I have never had a problem with bed bugs anywhere but I am a bit paranoid about pillows - I can usually smell the last occupier. I take a quilted pillow with me everywhere as it only smells of me!

youngandrestless Mar 23rd, 2006 02:37 PM

Bedbugs usually hide behind things like furniture and wall art during the day, and come out to feed at night. So, bringing your own sheet probably won't be a deterrant, since the bedbugs crawl into bed from the walls anyway.

Underhill Mar 23rd, 2006 02:39 PM

You could get a silk travel-sheet too, or even a travel-weight sleeping bag.

grsing Mar 23rd, 2006 02:39 PM

Those measures won't prevent bedbugs from getting to you if they're present; they're attracted by the carbon dioxide you exhale (if you don't, you die, so no point trying to stop it). Bedbugs crawl pretty much everywhere to get to the food source (your blood). That said, in all liklihood, you won't have to deal with bedbugs, and if you do, just think of them like mosquitos, a nuisance, nothing more (apparantly, they are NOT a disease vector, so you don't have to worry about that, so they're even better than mosquitos).

auldyins Mar 23rd, 2006 02:42 PM

Don't know if tea tree oil prevents being bitten by bed bugs but it would work as an after bite.

youngandrestless Mar 23rd, 2006 02:46 PM

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...3_bedbugs.html
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bedbugs/DS00663
Sounds like the bedbugs mainly hang out in slummy places, so you shouldn't worry too much. But you can at least see a picture so you know what to inspect your hotel room for.

schnauzer Mar 23rd, 2006 02:46 PM

I have never had an issue with bed bugs - don't get too paranoid. Another suggestion would be to take large sarong which can also be used to wrap yourself in if the weather is warm enough in Italy (hmm maybe not depends where you are going)to lie on for a picnic and also be used as a sheet if you feel the need. This way you get more use out of one item. Ok so it will not be pristine by the time you have picnicked on it!! I really wouldn't worry - where are you planning on staying? Don't get the willies - just relax and enjoy.

WillTravel Mar 23rd, 2006 02:49 PM

If you insist on your own item of bedding, take one that is chemically treated to resist bedbugs:

http://www.gogogear.com.au/shopexd.a...amp;quantity=1

auldyins Mar 23rd, 2006 02:49 PM

This question is bugging me. Do you mean fleas?

WillTravel Mar 23rd, 2006 02:52 PM

No, bedbugs are different. You can Google for pictures.

This article provides a protocol for dealing with rooms that have bedbugs (scroll near the bottom):
http://docforgey.com/faq/1.html

Bedbugs are still not very common in developed countries, even if they are more common than they used to be.

auldyins Mar 23rd, 2006 02:54 PM

I think we call them dust mites in the U.K.

KT Mar 23rd, 2006 02:55 PM

With all due respect...you've posted on here about bedbugs (twice), deodorant, public bathrooms, shared hotel bathrooms, feminine hygiene, and sleeping pills for the plane. I really think you should calm down and stop "getting the willies" about all of these potential, and not major, physical problems. If it's that worrying, are you sure you want to travel?

youngandrestless Mar 23rd, 2006 03:00 PM

She's just doing her research in advance. I think it's cool that she asks all the questions everyone else is embarrassed to ask. Better to figure it all out from the safety of her own home and then venture out with poise, than to go without preparation and have all the unexpected issues freak her out in a foreign place.

grsing Mar 23rd, 2006 03:02 PM

Dust mites and bedbugs are definitely not the same thing; dust mites are only an annoyance when you inhale them, and are pretty much microscopic, while bedbugs are definitely visible, and more the category of mosquitos, leaving potentially annoying (though by no means fatal) bites.

Nikki Mar 23rd, 2006 03:05 PM

Auldyins, bed bugs are not the same as dust mites. According to my allergist, dust mites are everywhere. Bed bugs are certainly not. And in the US we call dust mites dust mites.

auldyins Mar 23rd, 2006 03:05 PM

Are bed bugs not fleas?

Nikki Mar 23rd, 2006 03:06 PM

Not fleas either. Something else entirely.

youngandrestless Mar 23rd, 2006 03:10 PM

auldyins: look at these websites and you'll see a picture of a bedbug.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...3_bedbugs.html
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bedbugs/DS00663


auldyins Mar 23rd, 2006 03:12 PM

I think I will be scratching in my own bed at the thought tonight.

grsing Mar 23rd, 2006 03:12 PM

Nope, not fleas either. Just bedbugs (Cimex lectularius). Entirely different bugs (though still rather unpleasant insects).




AnnieP2 Mar 23rd, 2006 03:13 PM

Ewweeee.... Yeuch, blech... all of that stuff. I have personally never seen one thank God. If I am going someplace where there will be mozzies, I usually spray the room with bug killer and leave for a few hours. Now will we have to spray the bed and hope the chemicals dont kill us?

grsing Mar 23rd, 2006 03:15 PM

Bedbugs won't kill you (unless you've died from the minor irriation of a mosquito bite).

AnnieP2 Mar 23rd, 2006 03:16 PM

no, I meant the bug spray on the sheets.

youngandrestless Mar 23rd, 2006 03:18 PM

Whatever you do don't watch Arachnophobia! If just talking about bugs gets you going, that movie will freak you out.

AnnieP2 Mar 23rd, 2006 03:19 PM

Im still trying to get over the bug scene in Indiana Jones a gazillion years ago!

auldyins Mar 23rd, 2006 03:21 PM

I'm trying to get over a spider in the bath right now.

youngandrestless Mar 23rd, 2006 03:21 PM

Yeah, that one was pretty bad too. I would've needed a stunt double.

WillTravel Mar 23rd, 2006 03:25 PM

Apparently if the bites are bad enough you can get septicemia (blood poisoning). Also, you can be disfigured for months and scarred for life, based on some reports I've read.

I know everyone is different, but I like to work through worst-case scenarios for everything. It makes me feel calmer if I've developed a strategy for dealing with that sort of thing.

KT Mar 23rd, 2006 03:27 PM

I just thought of a practical suggestion. Pack a small tube of hydrocortisone cream or ointment. I react very badly to flea bites, and that's what I do. Though now I'm thinking that maybe I'm too conservative about the threat--maybe I should bring a blowtorch and set fire to all the carpets and furniture where fleas might lurk.

KT Mar 23rd, 2006 03:28 PM

I don't mean to say that bedbugs are fleas. I know they're not. I was just reasoning(?) by analogy.

AnnieP2 Mar 23rd, 2006 03:33 PM

"disfigured"? Oh My GOD!!

KT Mar 23rd, 2006 03:34 PM

Well, if you really want to worst-case everything, don't forget brown recluses, scratches (you can get septiciemia from them if they get infected), sprained ankles from stepping off curbs wrong, hit-and-run drivers, hepatitis A, sunstroke, earthquakes in Italy, looking the wrong way while crossing in the UK, plane crashes, train crashes, vipers.....

KT Mar 23rd, 2006 03:37 PM

...slipping in the shower, electrical fires during the night, getting hit by lightning, vertigo, flying debris scratching your eye, hypothermia, war, pestilence, plague....

enzian Mar 23rd, 2006 04:01 PM

Why are we talking about bedbugs? Has anyone EVER encountered them in Europe? Even in hostels? Neither I nor my kids (who do stay in hostels) ever have. The only time I have even heard of them was from people who stayed in the dorm in a mountain climbers' hut in Austria.

Birthdaygirl, if you are worried about the cleanliness of the places you will stay, carry a silk sleepsack; it won't take up much room in your luggage. Putting a sheet over the top of the bed won't do much.

Lesli Mar 23rd, 2006 04:23 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7829176/

"Even upscale hotels are not immune...and bug specialists say the pests can thrive even in a spotlessly clean room."

Since there's really nothing you can do, I wouldn't sweat it.

I certainly would not bother bringing your own bedding. If by some bad luck you do encounter bedbugs, you'll just introduce them into your luggage and end up bringing them along with you to your next destination, and eventually home.

As the article explains, increased travel is why there's a rise in infestations.




suze Mar 23rd, 2006 04:31 PM

No carrying your own sheet and blanket (which is ridiculous IMO) will not do a thing to keep the bed bugs (should there be any) away from you.

What kind of places are you planning on staying anyway?

There are about a million things you can worry about before a trip, this is a particularly weird obsession you've come up with.

birthdaygirlstrip Mar 23rd, 2006 04:32 PM

What is a silk sleepsack?

Yikes! I didnt think of hepatitis A---i got vaccinated for B, but I think my vacinnation for A didn't stick.

But, you can get hep A anywhere...can't you? And is hep A as bad as hep c ?

fun4all4 Mar 23rd, 2006 04:33 PM

Bedbugs can be found in any "level" of hotel (basic to deluxe). They don't seem to be disease transmitters from what I have read.

The only times I have heard about bedbug experiences have been here in the US....so, if you are going to worry, then this is not a "Europe thing."

Yes, it is icky (and I think we had bites from a nice place in Florida, but I'm not absolutely sure) BUT, if I worried about every possible bad thing that could happen, I would never go anywhere. So, be as prepared as possible, then try to relax and HAVE FUN!

Happy travels!

suze Mar 23rd, 2006 04:38 PM

Look in any mail order catalog with travel supplies, like Magellens or something. Silk sleepsacks are what is commonly used by people who stay in hostel dorms.


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