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Paulo Jan 17th, 2001 06:24 AM

Lisa<BR><BR>Till Fodors provides the short cut you're referring to (if ever), you may have the same result by typing the "Forum ID number" (fid=x) in the netsite/location window above. If, for instance, you replace the fid=2 by 6, it will take you to the Latin American Forum<BR><BR>Paulo

JT Jan 17th, 2001 06:40 AM

S. Fowler et al are undoubtedly right that the banner space will be sold to non-Fodors advertisers -- but that doesn't mean it has to be quite so large. Plenty of sites get along with half that size, or put things off to the right margin, where there is currently just white space.<BR><BR>As to how much appears on screen: I have a large 17" monitor and I keep the display toggled to the largest size (Dr. Betty, not every browser and platform uses the symbols you refer to), and I'm still feeling very cramped. Sure it's nice to have the large font, and I can re-set the font to a smaller size to fit a bit more on. But the fact remains that the percentage of the display area devoted to the actual forum discussion has been cut considerably, pretty much to less than half the available space.<BR><BR>When I find myself working on a quarter of the screen -- as I do when scrolling messages or writing a reply -- I think it's uncomfortable and, here, unnecessary.<BR><BR>

kk Jan 17th, 2001 06:44 AM

Overall I think I could get to like this change. The search function in particular is sensational. I did a test case and it worked fast and pulled up great stuff. <BR>I'd agree with previous posters that it would be beter to have the banner shrink a little, but I can live with it.

Sue Jan 17th, 2001 06:48 AM

Boy, the print sure looks tiny to me. As a former reading teacher, I can also point out that sans serif type is much harder to read. (Maybe it was sans serif before, but it didn't seem SO sans serif.)

Tammy Jan 17th, 2001 06:49 AM

I would like to see the message title appear in a bolder font. I have a hard time distinguishing between the message title and the number of responses. I also agree that there is too much white space.<BR><BR>Other than that, I like it.

Sue Jan 17th, 2001 06:55 AM

Plus, I just tried to post a response and got a strange message--Data not available...contact site administrator. What up with that?

Paulo Jan 17th, 2001 07:19 AM

JT (and other that are complaining about the too much white space)<BR><BR>Marcos gave the technical explanation. I normally run a 800x600 pixels screen, and sure do get some white space on the sides. This space obviously increases if one runs a 1024x768 screen. <BR><BR>Now, what about people that have monitors that may only be run to 640x480 pixels? I just did that! All the white space on the sides is gone and I can't read the entire line. I have to use the horizontal scroll bar (slightly) to that effect. Had the site been designed for a 1024x768 resolution it would be very awkward for those not being able to run this resolution.<BR><BR>Paulo

Monica Jan 17th, 2001 07:29 AM

I agree that it has slowed down and I don't like the fact that I can't choose by geographic area. I continue to have some kind of link error everytime I go to the site.

Claye Jan 17th, 2001 07:38 AM

Help needed. Not as computer savy as some. Using a 19" monitor and still have a scroll bar at the bottom of the messages. Set text size to the smallest setting and using full screen helps. (IE browser)<BR><BR>Very hard to read since you have to slide the scroll bar for each line of text, or just guess what word you are not seeing. Some other setting I need to change?

wes fowler Jan 17th, 2001 07:40 AM

I'm impressed! I'm sitting here using an IBM 1200/1300 Thinkpad and am having no difficulty reading font sizes or coping with extraneous white space.<BR>Like having name and Email address printing automatically, particularly since my regular Email address is so lengthy. I like the mail this thread feature and the jump but am not too sure of the value listing queries by most responses. (I was drunk...will sit at the top of that list forever!). In all, most pleased with improvements. Thanks, Fodors' folks!

Lori Jan 17th, 2001 07:40 AM

It's too crowded looking and the banner is way way too large. New and improved does not always mean better by any means. Runs much slower too.

nancy Jan 17th, 2001 08:18 AM

Paulo,<BR>Once again, you seem to have an answer for me! and this wasn't even travel related.<BR>I must be running those lower number pixels, because I am unable to read an entire line on a reply and must scroll back and forth.<BR>What a pain!!<BR>Is there a solution, besides steal my husband's monitor?<BR>

Paulo Jan 17th, 2001 08:40 AM

Nancy,<BR><BR>My Windows system is in Portuguese, so I don't know exactly the denominations that appear in your version.<BR><BR>You may try to go to Start? (lower left corner), then Configurations and Control Panel. Look for Video (or Monitor) and open it. Next go to the Configurations page ... Can you tell me what you see (regarding Color pallete, Font size and Work area)?<BR><BR>Paulo

Patrick Jan 17th, 2001 09:12 AM

I have a 19" monitor and normally keep it set at True Color 640 X 480 which is great. However, like others, that now means I have to keep scrolling right and left on each line just to read a post. I can reset for Fodor's to be at 800 X 600 True Color, and I can now read it, but the print is so much smaller than normal or any other web site. Does this mean every time I go to Fodor's now (5 or 6 times daily, usually) I have to change my setting to 800 X 600 and move right up to the screen to read it? If so, maybe Fodors is just trying to reduce the number of us that use their web site. it will certainly slow down my use of it!<BR>Will someone explain the reason for changing what didn't need fixing? Also it sure is slow now. When I click "post my reply" I think it will never come up.

xx Jan 17th, 2001 09:12 AM

Nancy,<BR>Go to Start &gt; Control Panel &gt; Display &gt; Settings. Drag the arrow in the Screen Area section to the right (towards More). Cick Apply. Then Click OK.<BR><BR>

Paulo Jan 17th, 2001 09:27 AM

Patrick, have you tried to use the 600x400 option together with large fonts?<BR><BR>As for the response time, I bet that there's a technical problem with the new application. Even though now there are quite a few cookies placed everytime anything is loaded on your screen, it should be faster than the older application. Fodors analysts sure have their work cut out to sort the inevitable bugs that are inherent to almost every new application.<BR>Paulo

Nongeek Jan 17th, 2001 09:31 AM

Re:Speed.<BR><BR>Any animation (as in the banner) will slow down loading for a lot of people, esp. depending on the speed of their machine and their modem.<BR><BR>And a lot of us are posting right now -- esp. on this thread it seems -- and that slows things down considerably, explains the various error messages, etc.<BR><BR>Interesting how much more amenable people on this (Europe) forum are to the changes compared to those on the US forum......... is it character differences or time zone differences?

Patrick Jan 17th, 2001 09:33 AM

Now that I've been on this site for 15 minutes or so, here's the rest of my problems: What is the deal with after you post a reply, it disappears then reposts on the right side of screen at the end of the other posts just like always, but then you go to the left side and resume checking out messages, after a minute or two you get this delayed reorganizing of the numbered posts? It used to switch at the same time as your message posts. Now you have to sit there and wait until the left side disappears and then reorganizes. Major pain. <BR>Dr. Betty: are you kidding us about the format to the screen? If I click the little X in the upper right hand of the screen it will close the entire web site, not change its size. Doesn't everybody's Windows work that way?<BR>Three times now I have clicked a message and gotten the response "unavailable". Everything seems to stay there. If I click "refresh" I get a clear screen then a message that nothing is available. I have to close out of Fodors and come back to it. Hope that problem can be fixed.<BR>I'm not a master computer user, maybe that's the problem. This site used to be easy to navigate. Now I guess it takes a computer whiz to know how to reset everything evertime he wants to visit Fodors!<BR>

Walter Jan 17th, 2001 09:38 AM

I don't know what my glitch is? But I *cannot* choose any of the 50 posts on the left. Everything seems to be the fine after I click-on a topic but it doesn't come up. *Only* the topic that is No. 1 when I enter the site is available on the right with all the responses??? But I do not have a computer but access the internet thru "Webtv", perhaps that's the problem? I hope it's just a temporary problem, I'd hate to not be able to access the posts on this site:(. Regards, Walter

Cindy Jan 17th, 2001 09:50 AM

Here's one thing that helped me see more in each screen. I went to view and turned off my toolbars. It's not much, but it's something.


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