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dreamon Feb 3rd, 2023 05:21 PM

New EU border controls?
 
We're Australian and are travelling to Greece in April and I've just remembered that I read ages ago that the EU is implementing new border controls (similar to the USA?) for non-EU people visiting. We'll be staying in EU less than 90 days so no problems with standard Schengen requirements. Can anyone help please? When does it come into play and do we need to apply before departure? What is the name of the new system or a web link please? I'm hoping it doesn't impact us (at least yet).

dreamon Feb 3rd, 2023 05:50 PM

I think it's okay. I found this web page which is very helpful. https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/etias/ Doesn't happen until November according to this site.

lavandula Feb 3rd, 2023 06:37 PM

I just came through Frankfurt (mid-Jan) and we absolutely sped through immigration. The ETIAS is not yet being implemented but I am sure it will be seamless when it arrives.

Lavandula

brotherleelove2004 Feb 3rd, 2023 08:46 PM

Contact the Greek Consulate nearest you for current travel related policies for Australians.

hetismij2 Feb 3rd, 2023 11:11 PM

November is the current start date but don't be surprised if it slips yet again to sometime next year.
The UK is aiming for something similar this year as well but is suitably vague about what when and how.

dreamon Feb 4th, 2023 02:59 PM

Thanks for your advice. I've no doubt it will not slow down immigration at airports (once everyone knows that they have to apply). While I understand the motivations for a system like this, considering the data they are collecting I do have concerns about the honeypot of information this represents for hackers interested in identity theft. No database is ever totally secure and, especially with so many countries involved, it will have some security risks. Always a balancing act.

hetismij2 Feb 4th, 2023 10:17 PM

The US has been doing it for years.

VANAARLE Feb 4th, 2023 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by dreamon (Post 17435354)
Thanks for your advice. I've no doubt it will not slow down immigration at airports (once everyone knows that they have to apply). While I understand the motivations for a system like this, considering the data they are collecting I do have concerns about the honeypot of information this represents for hackers interested in identity theft. No database is ever totally secure and, especially with so many countries involved, it will have some security risks. Always a balancing act.

Apple/Google has a lot of your information too.

hetismij2 Feb 5th, 2023 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by VANAARLE (Post 17435465)
Apple/Google has a lot of your information too.

As does Amazon, and of course Meta, and even Fodor's.
Big difference is the EU won't monetise the information they have on you.

Seriously one of the reasons for the delays in implementing this is to make sure it is as secure as it can be, and will work smoothly.

Australia stores a lot of info on people visiting the country as well, and charges more than the EU plan to for the privilege, and as I said the US has been doing this for years now. And the EU has stricter data protection laws than pretty much anywhere.




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