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PalenQ Oct 29th, 2017 12:42 PM

If you go early and on a weekday no need for reservations before 4 in most tents.>

Yes and I enjoyed hopping between tents to see the different atmospheres and bands. Even at night when tables are like to be full you can stand in each tent to get the flavor.

swandav2000 Oct 29th, 2017 09:01 PM

Hi Stephy,

I gave my nephew a trip to Germany this year, and he, rather late (June), told me he wanted to see the Oktoberfest. I scrambled for hotels, but I found a relatively reasonable hotel at Freising, outside of Munich near the airport. The trip into Munich took either 25 minutes using a regional train or 45 minutes using the UBahn (more stops...). So you may want to consider that.

Airbnb is illegal in Munich. Like Paris, Munich has a bad housing shortage, and it's illegal for folks to buy up & rent out apartments like hotel rooms. You can find legitimate apartments But -- of course the charges will also be higher for apartments during Oktoberfest ... everything costs more during Oktoberfest!

I live in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, south of Munich, so let us know if you'd like more information on some places to visit.

Have fun as you plan!

s

PalenQ Oct 30th, 2017 12:08 PM

Yeh Garmisch-P is a great place and great base as mentioned before - we stayed there and hopped to Oktoberfest but had seen Munich several times before so I think it nice to stay in or much nearer Munich than Garmisch (though just an hour away by train and dirt cheap with the Bavarian Ticket).

swandav2000 Oct 30th, 2017 08:33 PM

Well... more like 1h20 away.

s

PalenQ Oct 31st, 2017 11:14 AM

tsk tsk...20 more minutes! Anyway to far for someone who wants to see Munich for some days but perfect for someone just wanting to train into Octoberfest for a day or night - trains stop at secondary station very close to Festival Grounds.

swandav2000 Oct 31st, 2017 09:11 PM

Well... it is significant. To me, anyway. I take this trip somewhat often, and I would love for it to be 20 minutes shorter.

Pal, the train from Garmisch does NOT stop at a "secondary station very close to the Festival Grounds," and I believe I've already noted that on one of your posts. The trains from Garmisch stop at München-Pasing and then at the Hauptbahnhof.

The stop that is nearest the fest grounds is Theresienwiese. It's just one stop from the main station on the Ubahn, but would only be about 5-7 minutes to walk it. So it's quite easy to take the train to the main station and then to walk it. But the main station is obviously not a secondary station.

s

kja Oct 31st, 2017 10:29 PM

The difference between an hour and 1'20" would matter to me. And while I would do the research to confirm the actual time before making a decision, I would be frustrated if I made a choice based on inaccurate information provided on this forum. JMO.

PalenQ Nov 1st, 2017 11:20 AM

In any case G-P is too far to commute to Munich more than once - thanks for corrections but I did recall taking train to S-Bahn station just a stop west of Hauptbahnhof - Hacker Brucke or something - where tons of folks got off to walk to Octoberfest but now and thinking train was from Stuttgart not G-P. Swandav is of course always right as she lives in area and kja usually right - me well not always. Will try to do better!

kja Nov 1st, 2017 06:15 PM

I think PalenQ is, once again, being to kind to me -- but FWIW, when I post something factual (such as the length of time it takes to go from A to B), I usually try to confirm it beforehand, as I wouldn't trust my memory for that kind of detail. Of course, personal experiences and opinions are a different matter. ;-)

swandav2000 Nov 1st, 2017 09:04 PM

I do too -- just before I post the time length of a trip, I quickly verify it using DB. Two things make this necessary -- my memory SO often misfires (!), and trains are running faster & faster. Actually in my memory that trip was 1h40, but after verifying, it is 1h20. Feels like 1h40 though.

And Pal -- we do love your enthusiasm!

s

PalenQ Nov 2nd, 2017 05:13 AM

I usually speak in gneralities but slipped up - should have said about an hour and nothing else and Hauptbahnhof is a short enough walk from Festival Grounds.

Prost!

TPAYT Nov 2nd, 2017 06:14 AM

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Stephy Nov 2nd, 2017 06:14 AM

We do know that we are staying in Munich since we've never been, so G-P as a base is out. However I'd love to get down there to see the zugspitze (sp?). What I do want to know more about is this airbnb situation! Illegal? I'm confused b/c when looking online there are a lot of rooms/aparments listed on the site.....so if it's illegal wouldn't the authorities shut it down?

kja Nov 2nd, 2017 09:56 PM

@ PalenQ: Not to belabor the point, but really, saying it’s “about an hour” when it’s 1’20” is, IMO, misleading and unhelpful. Just one example: For me, a distance of an hour is the breakpoint for moving on (relocating) vs. a day trip – I know, from long experience, that if it’s more than an hour away, and in the direction I’m going, then I will actually spend LESS time if I relocate rather than take a day trip and have to backtrack. I know I’m unusual in my willingness to relocate, and I would never take anyone’s word for the time required (I research my trips rather obsessively), but why give people the wrong idea? Please consider either checking your facts brefore posting them or avoiding statements about factual information. I think the very valuable information you generously provide will be much better received if you don’t undermine your own credibility. It would be a shame if people stop reading your posts! JMO.

swandav2000 Nov 2nd, 2017 10:10 PM

Just as in Paris, the authorities are working on it. But government works rather more slowly than folks who want to make a quick buck. Some info:

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2016/...urists/482463/

You can go to this article, then select the text and use google's translate tools to translate it:

https://www.merkur.de/leben/wohnen/a...l-6650239.html

One paragraph, translated by google:

No. Although the rental of rooms on platforms such as Airbnb in the countryside in importance, but only in Munich, the misappropriation of housing by statute is prohibited, there were discussions in Regensburg and Fürth. Bavaria's Minister of the Interior, Joachim Herrmann (CSU), called on the municipalities at the beginning of July to follow the example and issue corresponding statutes.
Why is the Ministry of the Interior interfering in the debate?


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So, the issues apparently are -- reporting of income, getting permission from the landlord, and respecting your neighbors.

s

PalenQ Nov 3rd, 2017 06:39 AM

It would be a shame if people stop reading your posts!<

I usually talk in generalities and will try to do that more and BTW it's not 1:20 GP to Munich but either 1:21 or 1:19! Hopefully one would reconfirm any info they receive online.


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