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plr Feb 17th, 2012 02:54 PM

Malta By Bus
 
I've lost track of where I've read certain things, but know that I've seen mixed reviews re whether to rent a car or use the bus system for solo touring. I'll be primarily visiting archeological sites, and am leaning in the direction of the buses so I can not have to worry about parking and can take whatever amount of time I want at each site. However, it seems actually to be a shot in the dark. How often do the public buses (not the hop on hop off buses) frequent all the sites? And I have been absolutely unable to google a current bus schedule for the new bus system! There is a link for a colorful diagrammatic map which makes me crazy to look at, and so not much help. Please repeat your opinions about pros & cons of using the buses, and whether you know of a schedule I can look at ahead of time.
Thanks--

adrienne Feb 17th, 2012 03:04 PM

What's the new bus system? I can't believe Malta would give up those buses and get a system - LOL

If you want my opinion on the buses look at your other thread.

I don't understand your question. The frequency depends on the bus. It's not like the buses are all on the same schedule.

http://www.atp.com.mt/atp/servlet/Co...=directService

plr Feb 17th, 2012 03:19 PM

Ah yes, Adrienne. Thanks. I've been reading several forums though only posting here. My question about frequency was clearly addressed in the link you post here, though I see no indication of what year this is for. There has been apparently been a re-vamping of the buses as well as the entire system over the past year or so, if I understand correctly. And I am not finding a current schedule.

walkabout Feb 17th, 2012 05:32 PM

You could try e-mailing them with your questions. The e-mail address on the website adrienne linked to is: [email protected]

adrienne Feb 17th, 2012 08:22 PM

I can't believe anyone could get the Malta bus drivers to use a set system. They have their own code and their own schedule, no matter what is on the printed schedule. Some of those rides were not for the faint hearted!

I think you're expecting too much of Malta. It sounds like you want German efficiency and you're not going to get it on Malta.

Use the schedule that is posted on the site that talks about the new system.

http://www.arriva.com.mt/mainline-bus-routes

Maybe you should rent a car.

KayF Feb 17th, 2012 08:53 PM

We used buses to get around all over Malta and the only issue I can recall is having to wait for a bus, but that's what you do with public transport. We didn't have to wait that long and could have grabbed a taxi if necessary. If you have a car it can be more convenient but there are downsides as well, such as finding your way, potential of accidents, cost of petrol, cost of car hire, parking issues, etc. I'm pretty sure you won't be able to drive into Valletta.

On Gozo we hired a jeep as I'd read that the buses are much less frequent but on Malta we went all over the place as well as all the historical sites (we had about 10 days on Malta and 5 on Gozo) and were happy with the buses. One thing you should know is they all operate out of Valletta, the bus station is right outside the city walls. So if you are staying somewhere other than Valletta, you'll have to get a bus to Valletta first, then a bus to where you are going.

Kay

plr Feb 18th, 2012 05:41 AM

No Adrienne, I have no expectation for precision timing...I think you may be mis-reading the intent of my questions. I simply want to know whether buses go from point A to point B, and whether I'd have to wait half a day to get from point B to point C; whether I'd spend half of each day returning back & forth to Valetta from every single site, etc. Seems like a pretty reasonable thing for me to be asking, I think. If it would be impossible to coordinate well, then I'd rent a car. OK?

Thanks for your detailed response, KayF--very helpful!--and I believe I am persuaded to not rent a car. What's the cost of gas now in Malta/Gozo?

By the way Adrienne, thanks for the schedule/map link. I absolutely could not find that page when I googled. And I think I will also email them--thanks for the address, walkabout.

adrienne Feb 18th, 2012 05:49 AM

The buses may leave the origin point on time but can be early at intermediary stops. If you're at a bus stop on time you may have missed the bus.

plr Feb 18th, 2012 07:48 AM

Thanks for the heads up on that, Adrienne.

plr Feb 19th, 2012 02:01 PM

Just noticed on Gozo.com that they say getting around Gozo by public bus "can be tricky"--and they clearly recommend car rental instead. Any comments?

Southam Feb 20th, 2012 02:46 PM

Laugh out loud, all right. I enjoyed the Maltese on a visit a few years ago with the exception of the bus drivers, who certainly needed revamping.

plr Feb 20th, 2012 03:46 PM

Not sure how to interpret your reply, Southam. Can you add a little more explanation?

KayF Feb 21st, 2012 12:22 AM

Before our trip to Malta and Gozo, I had read that bus transportation on Gozo was more limited than on Malta and buses were not as regular. For this reason we hired a jeep, which seemed to be a common mode of transport on Gozo. On Malta we found the buses to be fine. I think each bus is owned by the driver and some have small decorations or names on them, showing pride in ownership I guess. This was a few years ago now and all the buses were around 50's vintage but in good repair with new paint jobs etc, but that old look.

I wouldn't have any trouble relying on the buses on Malta, loads of locals use them as well. The only thing that may be annoying, if you are not staying in Valletta, is that all bus routes start and end in Valletta, sort of like the spokes of a wheel. We loved staying in Valletta so it didn't affect us but if you were staying in another town and wanted to get somewhere, you'd have to go via Valletta.

Kay

plr Feb 21st, 2012 02:43 PM

Thanks, Kay. Did you arrange the jeep rental prior to your trip or upon arrival? And did you have any trouble getting from ferry to the car rental on foot in Gozo?

KayF Feb 21st, 2012 11:35 PM

Hi plr, we booked the jeep from home and they offered to meet us at the port on Gozo where the ferry comes in, we all drove to their office which was nearby and we filled in the paperwork, showed our licences etc. It worked really well and on the return journey, we stopped at their office, picked up one of the men who worked there and he came with us to the port, where we gave him the keys and we caught the ferry back to Malta. We used http://www.mayjocarhire.com/

We did arrange a transfer from the port in Malta back to the airport while we were on Gozo, with the same car hire company. They do transfers as well. We had intended to get the bus back from the port to the airport (via Valletta) but the bus was quite crowded when we were headed to Gozo and there was barely room for our luggage so we figured this was a better option. It was certainly a lot more comfortable and we were surprised how reasonable the price was.

Kay

Amy Feb 22nd, 2012 01:48 AM

It's been some time now, but I got all around Malta by public transportation with no problem; I just did one day in Gozo on a jeep tour. Here's a thread to give you some idea of what I was able to do with no car: http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...s-100-best.cfm

I really, really enjoyed Malta; history is soaked into the stones.

Amy Feb 22nd, 2012 01:53 AM

Oh, and for a bit more orthodox version, here's my little trip report: http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...all-report.cfm As I said, it's been a while--didn't realize it was that long ago, to be honest; Malta definitely stays with you.

KayF Feb 22nd, 2012 11:49 PM

I have to agree with Amy. Malta is a special place which few people seem to visit. The history is quite amazing and we found the people friendly and welcoming. We hope to go back one day.

Kay

plr Feb 23rd, 2012 03:28 PM

Kay and Amy, you've been so helpful with all the details! Thanks. Enjoyed your trip report, Amy, and feel very reassured about not renting a car on Malta, though perhaps I will do so on Gozo.

plr Feb 24th, 2012 03:59 PM

Been thinking a lot about all the options, and re-considering what I might do.

When I fly into Malta at mid afternoon, brain-dead from jet-lag--I think I want to go directly to Gozo, check into a hotel and do nothing until the next day.

What is the "best & most economical" way for me to get from the Malta airport (no rental car and on foot, with 1 piece of luggage, a backpack and a small bag) to the ferry for Gozo--and then from the ferry port in Gozo to my hotel? Are these transfers frequent and reliable? Is there a lot of coordination needed to connect with the ferry? And since I'm not a spring chicken--no major walking with all my luggage?

KayF Feb 24th, 2012 07:09 PM

There is the public bus but if you've flown a long way and won't want to walk much, it's probably not a good idea. The transfer we arranged (details above) was just for us, we had an airconditioned car with driver and he was at the port to meet the ferry. You will need to check the ferry timetable but I think you will be able to book a transfer from Malta airport to the ferry, then another transfer once on Gozo to your hotel.

Travelling to Gozo on your arrival will add quite a bit of time on to your day. If you stay in Valletta, you could be at your accommodation very quickly. By the way, I suppose you know that Valletta is car-free so you will have to walk everywhere and also there are lots of stairs? The stairs were built low and flat - for the knights with their heavy armour we were told - so are not difficult.

Kay

plr Feb 25th, 2012 04:57 AM

Kay, I'm a walker! It's what I love to do when traveling. I just don't want to be hauling all my luggage on foot for a long distance while also jet-lagged. Sorry I wasn't clear. Are there general listings of choices for booking these transfers (airport to ferry ? Gozo hotel to ferry / ferry to Malta hotel)? I'm not at all opposed to using the public bus if it isn't a hassle with luggage.

Amy Feb 25th, 2012 05:33 AM

Valletta really is a wonderful place to "chill out" after your arrival; it's definitely not a resort town like some of the others. To me, it wouldn't be worth all of the extra time and effort to get to Gozo on the first day, and the buses can sometimes be crowded; that is, there might not be much room for luggage.

Just writing about this makes me want to be back in Valletta; there's something about the quality of that light on the golden stones: http://travel.webshots.com/photo/111...53546425HYBcpR (Sorry for the poor quality; this was pre-digital camera.)

ReturningKnight Feb 25th, 2012 06:03 AM

@PLR: What exactly do you need to know...the above comments have me confused. You can check bus routes and times ONLY on the bus company's website: www.arriva.com.mt It's possible to buy a 7 day ticket from the airport and it won't cost teh earth. Expect long journey times, as the routes can be devious, but there is ample space for luggage on the X routes from the airport, and also to some extent on 12/13 (Sliema/St Julians/Bugibba) and 91 (M'Skala) as the bendies run on these routes. Cultural sites may be a bit off the beaten track, so the open-top hop on hop off might not be a bad idea. Let me know if you have specific questions.

ReturningKnight Feb 25th, 2012 06:25 AM

@PLR: If you intend to spend most of your trip in Gozo, you might need a Gozo bus ticket...not sure the Malta one is valid there even though it's the same company. It is easy and cheap to transfer to Gozo by bus from the airport... X1 goes from airport (l-Ajruport) to ferry (ic-Cirkewwa) but not sure how often that runs. You can call their customer care (356)21222000- I am sure they will help you out.

plr Feb 26th, 2012 02:40 PM

KayF & Amy, I truly do appreciate your recommendations. Spent time looking at Malta first, but the deal-breaker was my end-of-trip very early flight departure. Staying in Malta first would thus require 2-4 extra luggage pack-ups, which believe it or not, I absolutely will do some suffering to eliminate!

And so I think I will do a shuttle van service (about 20 euros, I think) rather than bus service from the airport to the ferry and to Gozo. If I'm going to pass out from exhaustion, I figure it's less likely that my body slumped on the floor will be ignored in a shuttle van than in a public bus, haha!

plr Feb 26th, 2012 03:10 PM

...Although I have not yet checked to see how late the last ferry leaves from Cirkewwa....

ReturningKnight Feb 27th, 2012 11:55 AM

You can find the ferry timetables at this link by clicking on timetable tab at the top of the page:
http://www.gozochannel.com/timetable_departure.htm

yorkshire Feb 27th, 2012 12:24 PM

Have you booked your hotel in Gozo yet? Mine picked me up at the ferry port.
I also went immediately to Gozo upon arrival in Malta. I paid for a taxi or transfer to maximize my time.

plr Feb 27th, 2012 03:58 PM

I've just learned that MaltaTransfer.com will transport a single individual for just 10 Euro to the ferry terminal, but charge a whopping 69 Euro from airport to my Gozo hotel, which is barely a half mile from the ferry terminal on Gozo! Let's see. Which should I choose?!

Nice to see all the evening ferry times! No problem, it appears.

Thanks again to everyone who has been so incredibly helpful on this and my other threads! I so appreciate all your contributions.

yorkshire Feb 28th, 2012 06:54 AM

Use that transfer to get to the ferry port, then see if your hotel offers a more reasonable transfer, or just grab a taxi when you arrive on Gozo. Good luck--I loved walking across Gozo!

plr Feb 28th, 2012 07:24 AM

Yorkshire, I was joking!! My hotel is within walking distance of the ferry--a half mile at most. I thought the price difference was unbelievable. 10 Euros is great! And yes, my hotel will transfer for free.

yorkshire Feb 28th, 2012 07:59 AM

ha ha--obviously I am a careful reader. I thought maybe luggage was an issue.
Anyway, enjoy Gozo, it's gorgeous!

ReturningKnight Feb 28th, 2012 10:37 AM

Just be aware that a half mile in Gozo is not necessarily walkable especially with luggage as the island is very hilly. Which hotel is it? The Grand is only one I know to be within walking distance.

ReturningKnight Feb 28th, 2012 10:46 AM

If you use the bus it is only €2.60 (for a day ticket) and there are large bendy express buses with luggage storage space at the airport to ic-Cirkewwa ferry terminal. Route number is X1 and this link will give you the timetable (the buses are timed to correspond with ferry times as far as possible): http://www.arriva.com.mt/file.aspx?f=726
I would use the bus :)

plr Feb 28th, 2012 02:40 PM

Yorkshire, luggage will Never be enough of an issue for me to pay an extra 59 Euro to go a few blocks!! Yup, RK, it's the Grand. And as I said--they transfer free of charge. I thought that even the X1 bus you mentioned might have a bunch of stops along the way, and I really want to get quickly to the bed at the end of the road! (what's a bendy bus?).

walkabout Feb 29th, 2012 12:22 AM

They're those large buses with an accordion-like section in the middle that enables them to turn corners easier. Several cities in the US have them too. They look like this:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...rrowed-time.do

ReturningKnight Feb 29th, 2012 12:33 PM

Good hotel choice plr!

plr Mar 1st, 2012 04:48 PM

So just for clarification: does the X1 bus go directly, non-stop from airport to the Cirkewwa ferry terminal? That's surely the best deal, if so.

ReturningKnight Mar 2nd, 2012 12:04 PM

It makes a few stops along the way but generally travels in a straight line to destination. The journey lasts 1h05min...travelling by car would take just under an hour, so it's not bad. The main stops will be Marsa P&R, Mater Dei Hospital, Pembroke P&R and Mellieha. Have a look at the timetable from the link on my Feb 28 post. It's a bus not a coach so you won't be able to sleep on the seats (no headrest) but it's reliable and will give you a teaser glimpse of the island. You can get a 2hour ticket from the driver which is even cheaper (€2.30).


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