Luggage ; Does size matter?
 

Using the size charts at ebags for the length of our trip, I find we need four suitcases, each 29”+. Really, what do you take for month trip in France? Here are some parameters. It will be spring. We will check two bags. We don’t want to visit a coin laundry more than once weekly. We don't do laundry in sinks. We change underwear, socks, shirts daily. We dress up for special dinners at least every second night so we take dress clothes plus casual clothes. My clothes have XL tags in them. We stay 5-8 days in one place. We will be checking this luggage on the plane. We will be traveling by train and car. Sandra tells me that 4 pairs of shoes for her is cutting it down to a bare minimum. I take 3 pairs of size 11’s. We have been shopping for luggage for two days and those 20" rollaboards are the size of a lunch box. I have the utmost respect for all those people who say they get all their things into a 20-22” suitcase, but I don't think so.

WE've gone for anywhere from 3-5 weeks in the past and never took that much stuff. The largest bag we took was 25-26". The trade-off?
--Fewer shoes,
--more mix and match clothing
--lighter weight stuff from Travelsmith
--more frequent laundry.

Huge bags are a pain to lift and take on trains and with the new baggage limits, airlines will charge you a fortune if over the 50 lb limit (less for Euro carriers).

If you're staying a week, can you find a place with a washer/dryer? Then you can do this task at night or early am when still in room.

Then don't! There doesn't seem to be any reason for you to pack lightly. I assume you are a big strong man who can manage carrying luggage, you'll have a car, you have your dressing routine down pat, so don't worry about it.

Have fun.

All you need is money. You can get everything taken care of for you. Why worry?

Have you traveled by train before? I'm not sure how you can manage those huge heavy suitcases. Do you have any large suitcase? How about packing one and see how heavy it is. I could not even lift one of those large ones packed full! Will you lug all this or will your wife be handling hers? Also, will they fit in your rental car? If you will be parking it in the open w/the luggage in it you may be tempting thieves.

Not to be negative...just food for thought.

Hi robjame, I have a 29inch suitcase and it is great for long trips (just have to make sure it is not over the weight limit allowed by the airline you will be flying with). When I have used my 29inch it always weighs less than 50 pounds so I haven't had a problem.

But, here is my question. You say you are thinking of taking four suitcases, each 29 inches. Are there four of you travelling together or just two? One 29 inch suitcase per person should be very adequate.

And here is my concern..since you say you will be travelling part of the time by car I truly do not think you will be able to get a rental car that will hold four 29inch suitcases..plus I assume each person will have a carryon bag? If there are two of you travelling you could put some luggage in the back seat but than I would be hesitant to leave the car unattended. And if there are four of you there would not be room in the back seat for luggage.

Also just notice something, you say "We will check two bags". You are not suggesting that you plan on taking the other two 29inch suitcases on the plane with you, are you? That will not be allowed. Best read your airline website as the the maximum size allowed for your carryons. Also the number of bags, personal articles (purse/laptop) etc. that you can bring on board with you.


Since you will be staying 5-8 days in each piece just have a commercial laundry wash and dry or dryclean your clothes.

take as big as you can carry - then you'll be convinced to pack lighter next time.

Some problems taking really large bags: getting them on and off trains - quickly; having a car trunk large enough so <u>everything</u> can be hidden out of sight; hotel rooms not large enough to leave you room to walk around both the bed and the bags; not enough closet space to unpack everything..

Stay in an apartment, two pairs of shoes (max.) (&amp; you're wearing one of them). We would take two 22&quot; bags + a back-pack &amp; stroller for two adults + a 3 year old &amp; infant (11 months) for any similar trip. We also take 'throw away' clothes depending on the destination.

A note about trains and large bags -- my DH and I got inadvertently seperated on our last trip in London, as we were getting off the train. I got off first, but my rollbag got caught on the doorway. I finally tumbled out of the doorway, but then it shut in his face -- leaving me at the terminal, and him on the rapidly receding train. That's when we found out our cell phones didn't (despite Cingular's assurances before we left) work in the UK. We had another train to catch. We missed it, as he had a 20 minute journey to the next stop before he had to get off and come back in the other direction.

Don't carry bags you both can't handle in adverse conditions!!!

Is your trip fixed or flexible? Meaning, do you know exactly where you will be on XX date in the middle of your trip, or are you winging it?

If you know where you are going to be, there are companies that specialize in shipping stuff abroad so it is waiting for you when you arrive. Take half of what you need in two carry-ons. Ship the other two carryons to your midpoint destination. When you pick up your shipped luggage mid-point, ship your dirty clothes back to the US.

I'm sorry I can't give you a recommendation for one of these services. I'm actually one of those people who have learned how to pack a month's worth of clothes into carry-on (and yes, I wash clothes in sinks).

I also think utilizing a commercial laundry service every week is a good suggestion, unless you are planning to spend every night in a different town.

The 4 X 29&quot; was the ebags recommendation, not at all what we are considering. We are thinking of one 24&quot;, one 26&quot; and two small carryons(rolling totes) that attach when needed. Is this reasonable?

When I read you need three pairs of shoes, I took you for a six-footer, so carrying a lot of luggage should be no problem.

Seriously, I would first look at the number of shoes you are taking. At most, I would take, for each, a good pair of walking shows, and a pair of evening shoes. I would encourage your wife to find some evening shoes that go with everything.

I don't see many dress clothes in restaurants, even where the guidebooks say they are required. Once we went into an elegant restaurant in Venice, and I (and the servers) was the only man there wearing a tie. I still take a tie, but have abandoned the suit for some nice pants (that I can wear during the day, also) and a sweater. I think your wife could get by with a very limited amount of evening clothes, especially if they are stylistically interchangeable; you will be in a given place only a few days, so its not like someone is going to see you over and over again and wonder why you never change clothes.

Don't forget to bring washcloths (fairly often in Europe these are considered personal items and are not provided for you) and some large plastic baggies (the type that zip closed, available in supermarkets) for carrying wet items, and even for organizing your other items.

I don't like the idea of a wheeled tote, since people often seem to struggle with them during boarding and deplaning, and since it attaches to your roller bag, the wheels are superfluous. I think a boarding bag (a substantial shoulder bag) is preferable as you can store it under the plane seat where it is more accessable during the flight than in the overhead bins.

Assuming that you will be checking some luggage, I would suggest you get a manageable roller bag, each, 26 inch, or larger even if it is easy to handle (your wife might prefer a smaller one than you; a visit to a luggage store for some hands on testing is a good idea). I would use them as your main luggage, but keep enough stuff in your carryaboard luggage to survive a day or two if your charged bags are delayed.

I would then get two shoulder bags to carry aboard. Once you are off the plane, these can be attached to your roller and carried easity as a single piece. Finally, I would consider getting a 22 or 24 inch case (if wheeled, consider if you will be able to maneuver this while pulling your roller/boarding bag. Thats a total of five pieces, which should be manageable (only a very small amount of your trip will involve schlepping all of these bags). The last bag could be checked or carried on and put in the overhead bin.

Don't stuff the last bag; it is primarily for bringing home souveneirs. Some people recommend abandoning some of your inexpensive clothing items to make room for souveneirs. Because we have been travelling a while, my wife and I have learned how to get by with less stuff (we try to stay in apartments with washers, so we can do laundry overnight and get by with half the clothes, and avoid spending our time in laundries), so our fifth bag is often empty on the trip over; but I do like to have my souveneirs in carry on on return to minimize the chance of theft or breakage.

A 29&quot; bag can be very unweieldy, especially if you're using trains--and the suitcases don't necessarily fit nicely into a car's trunk.. Try to work with a 26&quot; plus another roll-on of a decent size. You never know when you might have to heft and/or lug a big, heavy suitcase for a long distance up and down stairs. No fun!

We've always managed comfortably with a couple of 26&quot; suitcases for trips over 2 weeks. We haven't experienced any problems on trains or in automobiles with that size. Everybody is different--some people would do fine with a carry-on for that long.

But we don't take real dressy clothes.

&lt;&lt;We are thinking of one 24&quot;, one 26&quot; and two small carryons(rolling totes) that attach when needed. Is this reasonable?&gt;&gt;

Yes, that sounds perfect. Although maybe your carry-ons don't need to be small or roll (the wheel and frame mechanism makes bags much heavier and takes up room within the suitcase) as long as they attach to the larger suitcase you have.

We find that even a 26 in bag is too big for train travel without alot of hassle, and you'll have to leave your bag unattended at the end of the car, if there is space. I found that a Jaguar that i rented from Hertz would not hold two 26 in.bags in the trunk, too big.

Your thoughts sound much better then EBay's recommendations robjame. I agree about the carryon's, no wheels, but make sure you can slip them over the handle of the two bags you will be checking in for ease when walking with them.

One idea I have read here many times is that a lot of people put a folded up soft sided duffle bag in their checkin luggage. At the end of the trip they fill that with their dirty laundry and check that and they put most of their stuff in their check in luggage (not medication, glasses, documents of course) and put their breakable purchases in their carryon. I have never done that buy think I will in the future.

BTW, I have always taken a maximum of three pair of shoes (wearing one pair one the plane of course) even for two months in Italy. That has always worked fine for me. And I do love shoes!

Regarding &quot;dinner clothes&quot;. A black skirt and a black pair of pants with a few dressy tops could cut down on a lot of dressy clothes.

I have always found if I have enough for one week I have enough for two months. The only time I brought way to much to Italy was because of friends there saying we were going to do different activities (horseback riding, sailing, hike in the Dolomites) and for various reasons none of these activities worked out. I thought I was going to go out of my mind with all the &quot;stuff&quot; I had packed. Less really does make the trip more pleasant IMHO. Best wishes that the two of you have a wonderful trip.

LoveItaly, that is the approach I use (folded duffle, breakables in carryon) and I can get by with 22&quot; suitcase for winter travel for 2 weeks, doing minimal laundry. I always bring 3 pair shoes, and enough undies for every day and lots of first layer tops. In winter I only pack only dark pants for dress (usually black), that way I can use a more utilitarian pair of shoes than if I bring a skirt. Dress it all up with scarf, great sweater, sparkly earrings, and voila! In summer, I might bring a skirt and wear comfy sandals for dress.

My husband wears a lot of tan chino slacks here in the US, but has stopped wearing them in Europe, as most of the men seem to wear dark slacks (or jeans).

I think 24&quot; would be gracious plenty for 3 weeks in spring.

&lt;&lt;We are thinking of one 24&quot;, one 26&quot; and two small carryons(rolling totes) that attach when needed. Is this reasonable?&gt;&gt;

This sounds very reasonable to me, also. That's what I take and I don't have any problem (train or elsewhere), and I'm just an avg size woman. I'm with your wife, there is no way I could travel with only a couple pairs of shoes, I would not go. I care what I look like, and don't want to wear the exact same pair of shoes every single day for all activities. I don't think it's good for your feet, anyway. I would take at least two daytime walking-type shoes, slightly different colors/styles, plus one &quot;nice&quot; pair for evening, and something in-between that could be worn with slacks and maybe skirt and could be worn walking around if you aren't walking miles or hiking (nice loafer or something).

Well, you can decide on your own, but I think ebags is nuts, but there is no reason to travel with so little if you don't want. I do not wash things in the sink EXCEPT for underwear, socks, and maybe a Tshirt or some top like that. This is a lot easier in the summer when you have lighter weight clothes.

Actually, I wouldn't want to travel without washing out the underwear and socks, because then you have to lug around a lot of dirty, smelly stuff. I wash it out even if I might not need to wear it. It doesn't sound like much, but if you are going for a month all of that extra underwear and socks will add up. Besides, you said you don't want to spend time in coin laundries, so either pay to send the stuff out or wash it out yourself, I'd say (underwear).

I will admit I would never ever wash out pants in the sink while traveling. I've seen folks on Fodors talk about washing out entire pairs of pants or slacks in the sink. yech, not to mention they wouldn't get that clean or look so good, and would have to be very thin material. Even I am not that cheap.

On one trip my teenage son washed out his jeans in the sink and then carried them around for days waiting for them to dry. We sure teased him.

I missed the part about train travel by robjame, that makes all the difference. And size does matter in the trunks (of cars!)

Great input. Thank you very much. OK - I'm down to two pairs of shoes and Sandra to 3 pairs with the promise we will go shopping for another pair in Paris (if needed). The extra pair can travel home in the folding duffle (what a great idea to provide room for the souvenirs!)
24&quot; and 26&quot; seem to be about right assuming we will be Ok on the train.
The ROLLING totes were because of the connection at Heathrow - same terminal but must have been a different county. Wow. Must have been a half hour fast walk.

robjame, I am the fan of the small rolling tote. We had to run for what seemed like miles when our plane from Berlin to Amsterdam was late. It's a very large place! I thought I would have a heart attack! I suggest you put everything you want to carry on the plane in a shoulder bag and see how it feels slung over your shoulder. You sound like a big guy and it might work for you. From what you said before it sounds like it will end up being pretty heavy.

Glad to hear you're taking smaller bags and less stuff. Shoes are heavy.

If you're taking the train, you should be able to lift your heaviest suitcase over your head. There's not always room at the end of the car or between seats, but there's usually space in the overhead racks. Even if you're traveling in first class. Stuff happens, especially in Italy.

I always am the most challenged actually hoisting the suitcase onto the train car from the platform while trying to get on myself. Probably says something about my (lack of) coordination.

I have traveled for 3 weeks in China with Carry On bags only. I bring a wheeled bag that fits in the overhead compartment and another small carry on bag that fits over the handle of the rolling bag so I don't have to carry anything on my shoulder. The wheeled bag is expandable so if I buy souveneirs to take home, I expand the zippers and check the carry on bag and bring the small bag with my valuables on the plane. I always travel with only one color scheme so all clothes, shoes, and accesories are mix and match. Usually darker colors (except for tropical climates) so stains don't show. I always bring enough underwear for each day of travel, and each outfit must be worn 2-3 times on the road, and go with at least 2 other pieces or it does not get packed. Knits are great because they don't wrinkle, stretch for comfort and you don't have to worry about losing buttons or breaking zippers, although I do carry a sewing kit, stain remover and detergent for emergency cleaning. I wear my heaviest shoes on the plane, usually sneakers/boots/walking shoes, and pack one pair of flat comfortable dressier shoes, and sometimes sandals/flip flops that can double as slippers in the hotel room. Ourfits are dressed up with scarves, jewerly etc. Toiletries are the small sample sizes, that get tossed as the trip progresses. See drugstores or cosmetic counters for smaller sizes of products. I try everything on before I leave to make sure it fits and has no stains/repairs necessary, and pack my suitcase. If it does not fit I take something out. Train travel is quite crowded and frequently there is no extra room for luggage. I had to sit on my carry on bag (standing room only) on a 4 hour train trip from Munich to Berlin. Be careful of theive on trains, and make sure you can carry everything up and down steps, lift overhead to put on baggage racks. Train porters are not readily available and you have to be able to lift all your luggage yourself. I would bring dressier clothes to France, in darker colors as Europeans dress more formally. Generally no jeans or shorts, nice skirts, dressier slacks, but separates are fine. Don't need a suit, although I found when I travel to France if I dress better I get better service. Finally bring a phrase book and learn some French phrases. This is greatly appreciated and you will get much better service.

My husband and I (both large people) spent three weeks in Europe with only carry-on luggage. We did no wash in the sinks and used a laundromat once a week. We did eat out at some posh places several times a week.

I carried a large, lightweight purse for documents etc. and a suitcase in which were all our underwear, shoes and foldable clothes. He carried a garment bag and his camera case.

We each wore our walking shoes and took one pair of evening shoes. We each had one suit - mine with both pants and a skirt. We each packed two dress shirts, two casual shirts and seven days worth of underwear as well as swimsuits.

The biggest differences I see between our packing and that of robjames are the number of shoes and the reluctence to wear a shirt twice in one week.

We traveled by plane and car also and were well pleased that we didn't have to lug large pieces about nor try to pack them in a small auto.

IMHO if you take all that you're planning on taking you'll find your belongings a burden after a while.

Have a great time (And remember to wipe your feet on the doormats)

I think four 29&quot; suitcases for what I'm assuming is a party of two will be really hard to manage...
I suggest a 26&quot; expandable for each of you and the maximum (expandable 22&quot; usually) carryon for the plane plus your perso item...make that purse a really beeg one...Check with your airline to see what their maximum luggage dimensions are and what type of aircraft is scheduled for your trip so that you'll know whether your carryon might need to be gatechecked, for example, on any leg of your journey,and keep your med's, glasses,etc., in your perso item that never leaves your side...
Color coordinate your trip wardrobe..I suggest one or two compatible neutrals and your favorite color..I often use black,beige, and green or red..Scarves &amp; ties can add some pizazz to your outfit...Make sure you can mix and match so that you get maximum use out of everything in that bag...Take old underwear and throw it away as you go along...If you stay in a place with laundry equipment, make sure someone teaches you all about the famous French lave-linges...You will see they have lots of cycles and like to go thru all ten of them! Often there'll be no dryer because of the expense of utility to run it...So, I'm with you on taking at least a week's worth of clothes..That way you will not be caught with an emergency need to launder...There is usually a day in any trip like this when you need a 'break' from touring and that is usually a good day for laundry..I also agree that you need at least three pairs of shoes...Two walking shoes so that one pair 'rests' every other day and dries out..I take a pair of the usual Reebok-type lace shoe and also a pair of Mary Janes or wedge heels like espadrilles...IT's good for your feet and legs..You're going to be using your feet for a lot of walking...Take that dress pair so you can go happily to any luxe resto you trip across on your way thru this eater's paradise called France..A Travelsmith black dress or a neutral suit and a blazer/dress slacks for gents would work in any resto I think...'Wear' the blazer on the plane and that will save you some room in the suitcase..Flipflops are a good idea as they make great 'slippers'...
Layer your clothing because spring in France is very unpredictable..You could have really cold weather or a raging heat wave...So, short sleeved tees and long-sleeved tees..a lightweight raincoat ( again, carry on plane)with zipout lining...believe it or not, warm gloves/hat..I bought a beret from a souvie stand in Paris once to block the cold damp wind from my ears...a warm scarf..All these can be used in varying degrees to meet the weather du jour..Twin sweater sets work really well...
You'll find the rer, metro, and busses are NOT configured for long distance travellers' luggage...The TGV overhead racks will imo only hold a carryon if that...
One general rule is that everyone needs to be able to carry their own luggage because train boarding times can be short!...You might check to see if you could travel first class on the TGV to afford you a little more room...Tickets purchased in advance and called for at the station before departure can often be a real deal...
Weigh your bags before you leave for the airport...I have a 29 or 30&quot; bag or two and I can tell you that fully packed...even with just cottons for Southern California...can quickly add up to 50 pounds...I would definitely get a rollaboard on that 21-22 expandable carryon...I have had about $500 of physical therapy for injury to rotator cuff managing heavy carryon's on my shoulders..You don't want that..My Tumi 21&quot; duffle rollaboard is the best suitcase I've ever owned..There's something about the bearings and the balance that is engineered into that bag that takes the weight off ME...It cost a couple of hundred at a Saks Off Fifth outlet but it's been worth every penny...I like the idea of an expandable duffle for 'take-home' presents and souvies..I also use any purses I might pack as packing envelopes..ditto the shoes...stuff them with your sox and underwear as 'shoetrees'...Bon Voyage..