Linen after Labor Day?
 

I know, not another fashion question, but I am starting to think about packing for my trip to Italy after Labor Day In Sept. and wonder if it is still a misfashion to wear linen. We will be in Southern and Mid Italy and it will still be warm, so is it ok? Where I live in the US, it would have the mavens clicking their teeth in dismay, what about Italy? Thanks.

Where the heck do you live? You might want to move.

You remind me of a John Water movie, do not know the original name, the killer mom that at the end of the movie decides to kill two women who were at her trial because they were wearing white shoes on the wrong time of the year.<BR>First of all, Us Labour day doesn't exist in Italy. We celebrate workers on May 1st, remembering the shots at a worker's march for the 8 hours working shift in Chicago (or maybe Boston) in the early XX century. Secondly, in Italy dress codes are far more slack than that: you wear linen as long as it is warm enough to wear linen, when it gets colder, you stop wearing linen, that's all.

Pearl,<BR><BR>now that you've received an answer on the linen things, I'm certain your next question will be about your white shoes.<BR><BR>US

Paul after the white shoes there could be questions about stockings, gloves and hats.........

Alice, that movie was "Serial Mom" with Kathleen Turner. It was a hoot!

And didn't Patricia Hearst play the "offender" wearing white shoes?

Yes, it will still be warm in Italy in September. Feel free to wear your linen, Pearl. And despite the jibes, I understand what you mean --- when I grew up, the fashion police would put out an APB on anyone wearing certain things after Labor Day. As others have mentioned, Italy doesn't know from this "fashion date". <BR>

Who gives a shit?

Misfashion? Do you also use the word paradigm often?

My, my looks like we have Fodor's mavens all in a snit about my question, don't we? Looks like Suzi is the only person that can answer a question in a civil manner. I know Italy doesn't celebrate Labor Day that is not the point, that is why I wrote September. So the question is: Linen in late September in Italy (and France)?

Linen for travel??? Isn't this the queen of wrinkle-prone fabric? I don't even wear linen in my life at home!!!!

Belive or not, my answer was a serious one. The fact that you reminded me of that movie is because in here (in Italy) noody cares what's the day and the month when it is up to dressing. You just check the temperature and dress to fit it.<BR>I have read a load of messages by people who are scared about "dressing code in Italy". Well, the fact that Italians are always extremely well dressed is a MYTH! I have seen too many people going around dressed with a worn sleeveless shirt, blue shorts, grey socks and sandals, I see these people all the time and I assure you they are Italians. So, please, as you decide about spending a week in italy, stop worrying aboout dress codes and all!

Only a fool would wear linen in September any place in the world, except India. You will be the brunt of jokes and stares. Believe me.

Don't listen to Alice Twain she is trying to get you to wear linen so you will look like a clueless tourist. In Rome no one would wear linen that late in the year. She must live far out in the country.

Pearl, I think I asked a similar question on this board last year. I visited Italy last October, so I decided not to take any linen along that late in the season (I grew up in the South and understand the mavens clicking their teeth). Well, the weather was very hot the whole month, and I saw scads of women in linen all over Italy. Wished I had taken mine. You'll be fine with whatever you decide.

Oh no, Pearl! Not France too?? You should've said so! Things are totally different in France, in fact so different I personally would pack two separate suitcases, one for each country. In France you have to wear your linen inside out after Labor Day, which is a holiday they of course don't celebrate, but you knew that, right?

Mon Cheri - NO Linen after Labor day. That is the law!!!!! I am aghast at any suggestion otehrwise.

Ha, ha, you are all so funny. I agree, Betsy, I will take some linen items "just in case". Thank you everyone for the time you took out of your busy lives to answer yet another fashion question. My family is from the South also, so we have different rules down here. <BR>Cluck, read my second message, I wrote September to set the record straight for all eternity.

Pearl,<BR><BR>I'm from the South as well, and quite frankly the old rules do not apply anymore.<BR><BR>BTW, I have a number of linen shirts and they wrinkle just when I look at them. Are you planning on bringing an iron? And have you calculated your down time from ironing that stuff?<BR><BR>Suggest you just wear your jeans instead...but that is another topic! <BR><BR>US

Well, how about combining the two most volatile clothing items of all, linen jeans? I have dry cleaning plastic to wrap them in so I should be ok. At least I won't take my linen shorts you all will be happy to know, even though I do have great gams.

Is there a woman out there that calls her legs "GAMS" ???<BR><BR>

not since 1953

You have to realize that I am the paradign of fashion and I can say gams all I want. Don't you every use different words or do you just stick to the same ones all the time?

Like sticking in every when you mean ever.

Pearl,<BR><BR>do not know your age and I do not care if you use "gams" or not...you sound like a fine Southern Lady to me!<BR><BR>US

Uncle,as if you had a clue!

Thank you, Sam. I don't know why linen would stir up such controversy, do you?<BR>Anyway, this is fun, I am so glad I found this web site.

Pearl, get lost you are a troll and one that uses old words too. Take your linen and leave already.

Pearl also likes to use the word "gal" a lot, I have a feeling. And Pearl, even though paradigm is a made-up word (like my favorite, synergy), it does have a meaning, but not the one you seem to think. Try using a dictionary once in awhile.<BR><BR>Why do so many southern women think they are quirky and fun?

Ann, I am quirky and fun once you get to know me. I am sitting here on my veranda drinking a mint julep looking at my magnolia trees, does that upset you too. Lordy me, you Northerners!! Is this southern enough for you? Oh, yes, I am reading a dictionary too, and, of course, I am in my stylish linen dress with a straw hat perched perkily on my neatly combed blond hair.<BR>Now, I have to get back to planning my Italy trip. Bye for now.

Please, if you start lumping Southern women in with morons like "Pearl" then we will have to start re-thinking the Northern ladies too!<BR>I think it is an insult to all women that anyone is even giving credence to this moron-who may also be HIHO in another life form!Ick!And most likely really a MAN.<BR>

Comrades, "Labor" Day in September is an American holiday, created, like Miller Lite, to dull the senses of the proletariat.<BR><BR>May Day, on the other hand, is the date recognised internationally as the principal occasion for celebrating the value of work and common effort in advancing human society. <BR><BR>You have nothing to lose but your chains!<BR><BR>Oh, wait, you said Linen. I thought you said Lenin. Sorry. Never mind.

Now THAT is funny, Vladimir, the rest of you are just wannnnabes.

Whether before or after September isn't the issue. I mean, seriously, who wears bed sheets or tablecloths?

Besides the amazingly (un)important question as to time of the year... MUCH more importantly and I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet:<BR><BR>Linen does not travel very well!! Wrinkly, easily soiled, not washable.<BR><BR>Get some new pieces - clothing in lightweight rayon, cotton, even good synthetics in mix and match prints and neutral to dark colors.<BR><BR>Sheez louise, how hard it this?

Can't believe, read more carefully. Several people referred to the fact that linen is a bad choice because it wrinkles.<BR><BR>Vlad--love ya.

Author: Leslie ([email protected])<BR>"Date: 07/11/2002, 01:19 pm<BR>Message: Linen for travel??? Isn't this the queen of wrinkle-prone fabric? I don't even wear linen in my life at home!!!!"<BR><BR>Leslie, you have a LIFE at home ???<BR><BR> <BR>

She just asked about linen and you all go off on her. I am sure she knows about other material as well. I don't think it is a bad question, I live in Los Angeles and linen is still looked down on in the Fall, in some circles.

Ann,<BR><BR>Darlin you sound a wee bit jealous of the Southern women. I personally can understand why, they're a hell of a lot better than those big haired, makeup caked NE tramps that chew and crack gum with their mouths open while smoking a cigarrette.<BR><BR>BTW, ever wonder why Miss America almost always comes from the South?<BR><BR>There is a reason and its called looks, talent and class!<BR><BR>US