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cocofromdijon Mar 2nd, 2005 01:16 PM

amazing! but unfortunately I don't speak german, what is the translation?

jahoulih Mar 2nd, 2005 01:36 PM

"The assassination of the aunt of the potentate of the Hottentots" - not a word one would use every day!

cocofromdijon Mar 2nd, 2005 02:01 PM

a last one for you, an easy one, for me, for a further message here (I need help!) how would you translate "produits d'hygiène" (ie showergel, toothpaste...) I don't think it is "cosmetics". products you can find in a hotel bathroom. do I make myself clear? I can't find it in my Robert and Collins dictionary! :-(

thank you and good night it's midnight in dijon.

jahoulih Mar 2nd, 2005 02:17 PM

I think we would say "personal hygiene products" or "personal care products" or "grooming products."

Bonne nuit!

cocofromdijon Mar 2nd, 2005 02:26 PM

jahoulih thank you so much! (grooming is not for horses?)
if you ever come to dijon, I'll have the pleasure to take you for a walk in my lovely town!
and for the others members here, sorry for the disturbance! :-)
corinne

jahoulih Mar 2nd, 2005 02:26 PM

I've just remembered the mot juste: toiletries.

ckenb Mar 2nd, 2005 11:46 PM

Bonjour cocofromdijon,

Tu peux taper les accents quand tu utilises un clavier américain, mais il faut savoir les trouver. ç è é ê â etc. et même € œ æ [ə] (le schwa) et les guillemets « ! ».

Je suis américain mais j'habite en France depuis deux ans. I've been studying French for over 40 years now.

cocofromdijon Mar 3rd, 2005 01:17 AM

hello jahoulih and ckenb and thank you for the details.
ckenb I understand better you high level in French now ;-) I wish I were as good..
I am going to post a new message and please correct me if there are any mistakes!
have a nice day! :-)
corinne

rex Mar 3rd, 2005 07:18 AM

I have never seen schwa on any list of special characters before - - how did you do that?

ckenb Mar 3rd, 2005 09:25 PM

I used Charmap in Windows, copied the character and pasted it in. Arial font. Charmap says it's Cyrillic Small Letter Schwa. I don't think their are keystrokes for it on a U.S. keyboard.

cmt Mar 4th, 2005 04:00 AM

On my screen your schwa doesn't show up as a schwa. (I see it as a rectangle.) Does it appear as a schwa (upside down lower case "e") on your monitor? That's odd.

cmt Mar 4th, 2005 04:01 AM

Actually it appears on my scrreen as a ractangle in brackets, to be precise. Do you really see the schwa on your screeen?

cmt Mar 4th, 2005 04:02 AM

rectangle (no "a")

ckenb Mar 4th, 2005 04:21 AM

I do see the shwa (which I put in brackets) on my screen. As someone else warned, Charmap characters might now show up on every display. Are you using Windows or Mac?

cmt Mar 4th, 2005 05:36 AM

I couldn't see it at home, but can see it at work. Thst's odd. Using a PC, Windows (98 at home, 2000 at work), Internet Explorer both places

rex Mar 4th, 2005 07:48 AM

Curious if I can cut and paste it from your post...

ə

Looks like it - - at least in preview... and this is fascinating - - wen I cam back from "preview my reply" - - it now shows in the box as

ə (I used & to represent the ampersand in this line) - - and typing that combination of characters produces...

ə

... the same thing! Very interesting! How much more of the international phoneti alphabet could we represent here?

Curious if it can be bolded also...

<b>ə</b>

Yes! or according to preview at least... Fascinating (well, not exactly like cosmology, but...)

Michael Mar 4th, 2005 07:49 AM

On a Mac, you can see the schwa if in Special Characters under IPA extensions of the Unicode list. But let's see if it appears on this screen: ?. I have my doubts since the preview gives it as a question mark.

Michael Mar 4th, 2005 07:55 AM

Two other tries:

? from the Character Palette, Unicode, Cyrillic

? from the Character Palette, Unicode, Latin Extended-B

rex Mar 4th, 2005 07:55 AM

Oh, now that's funny! Using preview converted &amp;#601; to ə even though I used &amp;amp; for the ampersand!


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