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wrenwood Jan 26th, 2013 12:46 PM

How do the Germans pronounce this Cafe's name??????
 
OK, I did a search, and couldn't find a thread on this.

This is a very popular Cafe/Bistro in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, and I would like to know how to pronounce it. I certainly don't want to say it incorrectly :o

So, what is the German pronunciation of Mukkefuck?

Pegontheroad Jan 26th, 2013 12:58 PM

I'm not even going to try that one. I'm waiting for Ingo or Cowboy1968.

Michael Jan 26th, 2013 01:02 PM

I can't imagine trying to represent the correct pronunciation without using the phonetic alphabet; approximations won't do.

grrr Jan 26th, 2013 01:38 PM

Go to dict.leo.org

Choose German - English

Insert Muckefuck (take care of correct speling)

You will get a translation (coffee substitute) and you may listen to a voice saying "der Muckefuck"

annhig Jan 26th, 2013 01:57 PM

peg -I think however you pronouce that, you're going to be understood only too well.

treplow Jan 26th, 2013 02:06 PM

The word "Muckefuck" goes back to World War II, when people called the substitute coffee made from acorn and heavens knows what else Muckefuck. Mucke comes from the German word Muecke, and the rest, you figure that one out yourself.

grrr Jan 26th, 2013 02:30 PM

Wikipedia states that Muckefuck might be derived from the French Mocca faux or an old word in a German dialect meaning thin coffee.

Don't know what Mücke (mosquito, midget) has to do with it.

grrr Jan 26th, 2013 02:31 PM

Midge (not midget)

Christina Jan 26th, 2013 02:56 PM

I don't understand that Wikipedia explanation as mocca isn't a French word. I have a lot of French dictionaries and it isn't in any of them, including Petit Robert and Larousse.

logos999 Jan 26th, 2013 03:11 PM

Mookaifook, the word not to use is fick which means f***

lavandula Jan 26th, 2013 05:08 PM

Muckefuck nowadays is just any bad (watery) coffee, sometimes instant coffee.

Lavandula

Pvoyageuse Jan 26th, 2013 08:48 PM

"I have a lot of French dictionaries and it isn't in any of them"

This is not surprising as it is spelled "moka" in French.

swandav2000 Jan 26th, 2013 09:50 PM

wrenwood,

That's a very popular cafe with locals (tourists almost never go in there) that has good food at decent prices -- their salads are especially well known.

I don't know anything about the phoentic pronunciation, but I just pronounce it like it looks --

Moookifuck

and don't worry about the supposed profanity at the end.

s

Ingo Jan 27th, 2013 12:39 AM

It's indeed the name for substitute coffee. Was very popular in East Germany, and indeed still used for that stuff.

For pronounciation: Both 'u's are short 'o', like in English "to". Accentuation on the first 'u'. 'M' and 'k' should be no problem :-)

I.

PatrickLondon Jan 27th, 2013 01:29 AM

>>and don't worry about the supposed profanity at the end.<<

Among English speakers that would only be a problem in the north of England, where a "u" is pronounced in much the same way as in Germany, and even then is only likely to be greeted with a Rabelaisian laugh.

Odin Jan 27th, 2013 02:46 AM

"I have a lot of French dictionaries and it isn't in any of them"

This is not surprising as it is spelled "moka" in French. - that is so funny!

wrenwood Jan 27th, 2013 10:32 AM

Who says the Germans don't have a sense of humor ;)

Name a Bistro with apparently great food "Thin Coffee" or "Coffee Substitute" and dare Americans to pronounce it!

Michael Jan 27th, 2013 11:12 AM

I thought thin coffee was Blümechenkaffee (sp?).

lavandula Jan 27th, 2013 11:23 AM

Yes, it does get called that. Thin coffee also gets called 'Schwerdchenkaffee' (little swords coffee) because it's so watery you can see the little crossed swords from the underside of the cup. Same with 'Blümchen-" - you can see the flowery designs from the cup.

Lavandula

lavandula Jan 27th, 2013 11:36 AM

To clarify: google 'porcelain swords marks' in Google Images. You get the two little crossed swords used by Meissen, which other porcelain manufacturers copied.

Lavandula


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