Gracejoan?
 

I realize gracejoan was hounded by another poster some time ago...but I miss her posts that have been so helpful to me. Her reports from Paris have served me well for many years and for ten or so trips. Does anyone know if she is posting elsewhere? Thank you...Victoria Ratcliff

Bingo, you've hit a major shortcoming on the part of Fodor editors. NO ONE should be able to get away with that kind of hounding, without being barred for life...immdiately.

I loved Grace Joan's affable manner and her impeccable knowledge. Didn't Grace move to the south of France near the Pyrenee foothills several years back?

C'mon editors...get tough..you're losing control.

>>Bingo, you've hit a major shortcoming on the part of Fodor editors. NO ONE should be able to get away with that kind of hounding, without being barred for life…immdiately.<<

>>C'mon editors...get tough..you're losing control.<<

The person <u>was</u> nuked -- under at least 2 different screen names a few months apart. His/her last incarnation has been gone since right before gracejoan quit posting.

Gracejoan is not living in France; perhaps you're thinking of another poster who moved from the U.S. to the Dordogne. She posts on tripadvisor.com.

Grace Joan posts her reports to a private group of admirers now in order to avoid all controversy. I'm sure that if one of the group vouches for you, you can be added to the list of people who receive her adventures.

I think Fodor's has been very effective in getting rid of the major offender, who has now turned her/his attention on me and has been spamming Trip Advisor with defamatory attacks since it was no longer possible to post them here.

That's rather poetic, kerouac.

St Cirq now lives happily in the Dordogne.
Anyone who objected to Grace Joan for her restaurants and photos. Haven't you learned to ignore What you dislike?
And Keruac, you have always putting down others who go to high priced restaurants. I envy those who travel often to Paris and enjoy good food

>>Anyone who objected to Grace Joan for her restaurants and photos. Haven't you learned to ignore What you dislike?<<

Huh? Not sure that makes sense in the context of <i>this</i> thread - are you saying the pill who kept spamming gracejoan's threads . . . we should have just ignored? No -- s/he was triangled and sent packing.

that is not what I was saying, don't twist words.

Jj: kerouac never missed an opportunity to post on GJ's threads making it known how little he thought of them. (Odd, I know.) It was he who did not ignore the threads he didn't find edifying.

Signed,

Admirer of GJ

"Banned for life" is an interesting concept but how could it possibly be enforced? All it takes to register is a valid email address, which are a dime a dozen.

Of course a comeback poster won't have lounge access, but that's not necessary to troll away.

janisj you were the one who was sent packing as I remember.

I merely pointed out to gracejoan from time to time that making five posts about how proud she was to have made reservations at certain restaurants was perhaps not as thrilling to readers as her actual meals, which have a major fanbase for the photos.

I agree with kerouac - when gracejoan actually reported on something she did, ate, saw...it was interesting to the people who enjoy that sort of thing. It can be nice to see how the other half lives, especially to those of us who are in the lower 99%.

The problem was that she morphed into some kind of Interplanetary Rock Star, and plowing through the minutiae of her daily life became extremely tedious. I mean really - all that noise about getting a reservation???

I'm really glad that she has her own private fan club, though. I think that she deserves all the attention she can handle, just not on a public travel forum.

That troll is really creepy - and I'm glad he/she was triangled. But frankly, when you put your personal life on display to the extent that gracejoan did, you have to expect this sort of thing. I wasn't comfortable with the fact that she seemed to expect preferential treatment from Fodor's - kerouac has been the victim of trolls, too.

+1 for manouche

I've seen the fan club e-mails and am proud to say that I'm not a fan.

Especially the drivel she posted right after the Charlie Hebdo attacks, going on and on about her super-special lunches with "so and so" as if nothing had happened in Paris.

+1 F1
(but don't push me on Charlie, that was the root cause of my getting banned - for life - from TA ! I couldn't stop posting how stupid they were to remove all threads about Charlie).

I've not known GJ - was not yet on Fodors then, looked up the first thread I found.

I can understand she got a fanclub but can't fathom why someone would be wanting to join it.
It looks like Louis XIV and 'la cour' - the highness says something and the cour bows and flatters.

I wish GJ the best; but I admit to having been underwhelmed with her posts.

I liked her pictures but not my style of eating. I think my favorite luxury poster is Denisea. She loves to shop, eat butter, cheese and drink champagne and has the best pictures. We budget eat for a bigger bar tab. Give me a sidewalk cafe, drinks and a few nibbles and I am happy. Everyone has different styles of travel.

I would like to think that there is room in my life to emulate the styles of both GJ and Kerouac from time to time.

Mostly I like my own style, like everyone else here I suspect.

annhig, my sentiments exactly. Some people like to move around every night, some like to stay put, some love Dublin, some hate Rome some like to eat five or six course dinners, others street food. My first day I hit the ground running, a cup of coffee and I am good, some have jet lag so bad they just want bed. I can sleep when I get home. I have posted more on TA as of late. Nicer people and more info, less judgmental when you ask a question or show enthusiasm for something you like and want to see or do.

I was never able to get past what seemed to be humblebragging so I stopped looking at her posts. It's seems that there was some info and pictures I missed by doing so, but there are lots of other great posters here that offer similar info with out the "hb"

IMHO, of course.

>>janisj you were the one who was sent packing as I remember.<<

Okay mimi -- you are way off base on this one. Where did you <B>EVER</B> get that Idea? I've been on Fodors since 1999 (possibly 1998 -- ancient history is a bit foggy) - first under janis and then janisj. I've never been banned in any way shape or form. I have had two posts deleted in 16+ years though . . .

(I changed my screen name in late 2005 when there was a glitch on the site and I couldn't log on - as happened to several others at the same time -- nothing nefarious)

You entered a confusing post which I simply didn't understand. I didn't attack you.

BTW -- I've never ever taken sides on GJ/anti-GJ issue -- but I DID triangle the twerp who was stalking/spamming her threads. Hopefully that helped getting him/her knocked off.

kerouac is a great contributor / GJ is (was) a great contributor -- that they don't agree is not my problem. GJ did seem to go overboard occasionally, but more than a few people seemed to enjoy her posts.

While I do understand why GJ's posts could be exhausting, there was no need to attack her. The idea that one just can't ignore an original post that does not pertain to one's needs or wants is beyond me.

While I didn't read every word GJ wrote, her descriptions of meals certainly became useful when I needed to start scheduling reservations in Paris.

Moreover, she was quite willing to contact restaurant owners on the behalf of posters here for special meals. As one of many who benefited from her generosity of spirit, I'm so sorry she was made to feel unwelcome by pure spitefulness.

So if anyone could pass my thanks along to GJ, I would be grateful.
AZ

I don't think there was any reason to attack her either. We all come here for advice and such and sometimes the responses are less than nice. I love to travel, and like gracejoan I love Paris, so I look at this forum and get ideas for future trips. I am not sure any of us should feel judged for our wants or likes. We are all different.

Janis, I apologize but there was a janicej here a few years ago who posted a lot of weird stuff. Sorry

wasn't me . . . apology accepted. (that was quite a long time ago -- and she signed on to mimic my posts -- was nuked pretty quickly)

It seems to be the same trolls over and over again. At least they become easier to recognize immediately for us old timers.

Gracejoan's departure from Fodors is not solely about the disturbed troll who periodically pops up on different threads. That is a ridiculous assumption.

My fond travel memory is meeting Gracejoan several years ago in Paris. Sharing cocktails in a lively bar the night before her trip back to the states. What a lovely woman. Her recommendations have made my frequent trips to Paris easier. And because of her, I have become friends with someone who resides in Paris.

And as for her "private group" (lol), it is simply an ongoing group email exchange. We are not merely "admirers" of Joan who "receive her adventures". It's not a VIP fan club, no membership fees. So do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around, because that's not what it's all about.

~Roberta

Also, Gracejoan's email group consists of travelers who themselves offer interesting and useful information. She is definitely not the only one in the mix who posts about trips.

Most importantly, the group allows people to ask simple questions without being insulted. Even though most Fodor's posters are really kind and helpful, the few who are consistently rude and contentious can often make it less stressful to seek information elsewhere.

Hopefully Gracejoan is doing well. I miss her posts on Paris!

One of the many reasons I enjoy Fodor's is the input from many different people who enjoy varioust aspects of travel. I am sorry when posters who share their knowledge and what they enjoy feel unwelcome here.