sheila;<BR>Sorry to take so long getting back to your request.<BR>Read this first:<BR>http://www.truthout.org/docs_01/02.03E.Hallib.Iraq.htm

sheila; Here ya go!<BR><BR>Suit Claims Fraud by Cheney, Oil Co. <BR>Wed Jul 10, 4:43 PM ET <BR>By SUSAN PARROTT, Associated Press Writer <BR><BR>DALLAS (AP) - A watchdog group sued Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) and Halliburton Co. on Wednesday, alleging fraudulent accounting practices at the oil services company he ran for five years.<BR><BR>The lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch accuses Halliburton of overstating revenues by $445 million from 1999 through the end of 2001. Cheney was chairman and chief executive of the company from 1995 to 2000.<BR><BR>&quot;Halliburton overstated profits that many American citizens relied upon. That's fraudulent security practices and it resulted in those Americans suffering huge losses,&quot; said Larry Klayman, chairman and general counsel of Judicial Watch, a nonpartisan group based in Washington.<BR><BR>The lawsuit was announced in Miami and filed in federal court in Dallas.<BR><BR>

Operaman,<BR><BR>I'm ROFLMAO here over your source!<BR><BR>Now that was one objective source you linked to!!!<BR><BR>Let's see.... guest pieces by Maxine Waters (that ought to be a hoot!), Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi!<BR><BR>I might as well counter with NEWSMAX!<BR><BR>Man what a joke!<BR><BR>US

Sammy Boy;<BR>I doubt you have anything to roll on the floor and laugh off. It's too busy giving ridiculous opinions. It doesn't surprise me that you discount anything that goes against what you believe.<BR>But that post is intended for someone who can think and reason. That leaves you out Sammy.

Operaboy,<BR><BR>You remind me of what Lenin said,<BR><BR>&quot;Liberals are such useful fools.&quot;<BR><BR>US

Sammy;<BR>That the best ya got? Even for you that's pretty lame.

But its so true!<BR><BR>And you fit the bill!<BR><BR>Traitor may be too strong, but not by much...and you do it in the name of criticism and free speech!<BR><BR>Man you sicken me!<BR><BR>US

To everyone (you too Sammy);<BR><BR>I hope this thread is still up tomorrow.<BR>Whether we agree or disagree in our opinions. I'm havin' a great time with it and you all!<BR>(you too Sammy!)<BR>Till then au revoir and Guten Nacht

Operaboy,<BR><BR>You don't know me well enough to call me Sammy!<BR><BR>And as we Americans say, Good night Gracie!<BR><BR>US

I won't say I think the current crisis has been handled the best way. But all countries agree that the only reason the UN is getting any cooperation from Iraq is that 400,000 US and Brit troops are gathered just miles from the border. The people that hate the west - hate us. We gain absolutely nothing by backing down - except the perception by terrorists that we are afraid of them. That will increase the terrorist threat, not decrease it.<BR><BR>In the meantime - it's no big deal to leave the troops sitting there, they don't have anything else to do, right? No families, no schooling, no important jobs (reservists). They can sit and rot while so called diplomats play their silly games with one-up-manship. We have all the time in the world, right?

Dear Buzzy<BR><BR>In answer to your original question ;<BR><BR>I have lived in Paris for the last 5 years now &amp; can honestly say that I have felt absolutely no additional animosity towards myself since the onset of the Iraqi problem.<BR>Obviously there is lively debate &amp; plenty of arm waving from my french colleagues in the office yet certainly no ill feeling.<BR>I continue to watch football / rugby matches feeling extremely proud to be wearing my english colours in french bars &amp; cafes. I do not feel threatened , ashamed or intimidated.<BR><BR>The only problem I have encountered is at home when I showed an anti - french uncomplimentary US based website to my french girlfriend.She is usually very easy going but she was spitting blood by the time she had finished reading certain articles.<BR>The strange thing is that the previous week she had found the UK newspaper &quot; The Sun &quot; highly amusing when they called Chirac a worm.<BR>Ive decided the best thing on the home front is not to mention the subject as there are plenty of other things to argue about.<BR><BR>So Buzzy come to France and enjoy your holiday .<BR>You have absolutely nothing to worry about.<BR><BR>best regards<BR><BR>Mark Harris <BR>Parishuttle<BR><BR>

Operaman,<BR><BR>I'm interested because, as I've said elsewhere, my husband works for Halliburton. He has met Cheney, and, whilst not sharing hispolitics, rates him highly.<BR><BR>As to the web link, whilst there's nothing new in it as far as I'm concerned- after all, most of the US oil service and production companies run their Iraqi and Libyan affiliates through Aberdeen, so we deal with it every day- neither is there anything for Cheney to be indicted on. As the report says, it's all perfectly legal.<BR>And the substance of the story is what lies behind the threat of war.<BR><BR>As to the second report, I know about this too. I think Halliburton looks forward to proving the allegations are wrong. I know it is the view in the company, that had Dick Cheney not been VP, there would have been no story; that Halliburton is no Enron.<BR><BR>Thanks anyway. I'm amazed to find I'm defending Mr C. and his company but I guess it's another example of &quot;you shouldn't believe everything you read in the Press&quot;<BR><BR>Gardyloo- Spot on! You're too reasoned to be Tony (sorry Tony). Give us a clue..who are you?<BR><BR>

Victress: &quot;The troops don't have anything else to do&quot;- I'd prefer sitting to dying if there's even a flicker of negotiating. You mention their families- I think they'd rather see them alive.<BR><BR>To my pal Unc- &quot;Traitor&quot;, &quot;WE Americans&quot;... Isn't it ironic that under the guise of &quot;Patriotism&quot; your views actually represent the most Anti-American ideals on this Board.<BR><BR>Off to work!

The east hates us. Oh dear, them and us. People who have no idea of integration, fairness, honesty or pragmatism.<BR><BR>If we are going to generalise we must assume that America (in going to war with a middle eastern country) is about to shoot the birds that were coming home to roost...

Most of the opposition to war in Europe comes from a loathing of GB.<BR>They dont see him as a president, just a placeman for business interests who is anxious to change the subject from his past.<BR>This is not a good reason to be against the war, but how do you get people to follow someone they despise?<BR>They dont hate the US, they hate GB &amp; would love to see him fail.

Zippo<BR><BR>I suppose everyone is entitled to an opinion. But, really ...??

Really ? Then you Europeans feel the same way as us Brits!! That's if you're talking about the 'Honorary PM Who Does Nothing Concerning Domestic Policy Anthony Blair'. In the words of 'Care Blair' it was very humbling writing that.

Zippo<BR><BR>Please don't confuse your own anti-Blair politics with those of the majority of Europeans.

<BR>I agree that most of the anti-US and anti-war feelings arise from those who dislike, for one reason or another, GWB. <BR><BR>Other reasons people oppose what is fundamentally a &quot;good&quot; war:<BR>1. Many countries, especially France, will see their ranking in the world order emasculated if the US deposes a tyrannical regime that controls WMD in short order and with minimum casualties. That will put them even further behind the US in influence.<BR>2. Countries like France try to win friends by &quot;standing up to the US.&quot; Makes them feel bigger.<BR>3. Some people have principled feelings against war. Misguided, but understandable.<BR>4. Economic contracts with Iraq (China, Russia, France). <BR>5. They might be next (Iran, North Korea). <BR>6. Will lose even more political capital (liberals, democrats).

&quot;You don't know me well enough to call me Sammy!&quot;<BR><BR>Ah, come on Unc. After a hard day of protesting, plotting against the right,<BR>and worshiping France. I look forward to comin' home and seeing what hijinks you've gotten yourself up to during the day. What would I do without ya buddy!