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PalenQ Jul 7th, 2016 11:53 AM

France Is the Most Beautiful Country In Europe...
 
hands down. Every year watching the Tour de France I am astonished at how neat the countryside is - the gorgeous side roads - and castles and chateaus galore - medieval looking towns swirling around a grandiose church and often ancient castle - no country to me can match France for sheer beauty - well France south of Paris at least. To the north is kind of the pits. The farther south you go the more dreamy and old-looking towns and villages become and the terrain as well.

Switzerland is a close 2nd but too much all the same.

What country do you think is the most beautiful in Europe?

Check out coverage of the "Ter de Franz" on NBSSports cable channel to see how gorgeous much of France is!

iris1745 Jul 7th, 2016 11:57 AM

No doubt, France is so beautiful, as is the Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Italy, Spain, England and Switzerland.

I love watching the Tour.

traveller1959 Jul 7th, 2016 11:58 AM

I just triangled this as advertising.

hetismij2 Jul 7th, 2016 12:03 PM

Every country has it's beautiful parts, no one country is more beautiful than another, just different.
Every country has it's ugly parts, no one country is uglier than another, just different.

PalenQ Jul 7th, 2016 12:17 PM

ah yes beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I agree all countries have their beauty - but to me at least I love France the most - all countries are equally beautiful? Not to me at least but yes maybe to youse!

Viajero2 Jul 7th, 2016 12:19 PM

I have to agree with you.

Traveller1959-- PalenQ has probably been posting on this forum way before you, so....advertising? nahhh. How I know? because I have been posting before either of you-- Posting since March 1993 :)

PalenQ Jul 7th, 2016 12:22 PM

Me thinks traveller1959 was jesting - for sure.

Macross Jul 7th, 2016 12:30 PM

Ireland is where I keep returning. It just has so much beauty. Bavaria is my second favorite spot, Scotland, Italy, Austria and then France.

Whathello Jul 7th, 2016 12:31 PM

Too bad French inhabit it.

sparkchaser Jul 7th, 2016 12:34 PM

LOL @ Whathello

hetismij2 Jul 7th, 2016 12:36 PM

What! Many may think it but a Belgian can say it ;).

tonfromleiden Jul 7th, 2016 12:45 PM

Scotland's west coast. Best in a light drizzle.

justineparis Jul 7th, 2016 12:48 PM

I love France.. really , my favorite country.. but I think Switzerland is more beautiful over all.

I do think Paris is the most beautiful city .. but some of the countryside is boring.. or just not my taste.

Each country I have been to does have beautiful areas.. but over all Switzerland just doesn't have an boring or blah spots.

iris1745 Jul 7th, 2016 01:00 PM

The problem is, we don't get to see the countryside from the air, like during the Tour, so it's a very different, difficult comparison.

PalenQ Jul 7th, 2016 01:14 PM

iris makes a prescient point - had not thought of the skewed view from the air but still having biked and driven and trained around the Hexagon for centuries now it still gets my nod - except of course the northern part near Belgium, one of the least attractive countries outside of the eastern portion.

I love The Netherlands too but it's same ole same old everywhere - cookie cutter modern cities and nary a hill in sight except along the German border - tower block flats everywhere but Amsterdam and some old cities like Haarlem, Alkmaar and Delft and Utrecht and Leiden, etc are neat but talking here about the flat boring countryside of canals and sluitjes and fields with trees for windbreaks and cows and cows and cows and... cows!

kerouac Jul 7th, 2016 01:46 PM

The advantage of France (just like the United States) is that it has total variety of landscape and coastline as well as other bits in between. A lot of other countries have completely spectacular sights but lack the variety.

hetismij2 Jul 7th, 2016 02:00 PM

Sorry Pal but you are talking rubbish about the Netherlands. You clearly haven't visited much of it.

Great Britain has a huge range of countryside, and cities and villages and towns every bit as beautiful as anything in France. Ditto Germany, Italy and Spain.

Huge chunks of the places the Tour goes through are really boring from the ground.

danon Jul 7th, 2016 02:02 PM

"The advantage of France (just like the United States) is that it has total variety of landscape and coastline as well as other bits in between. A lot of other countries have completely spectacular sights but lack the variety."

Sign me up for Spain...variety of :landscape,, coastline, languages and cultures, architecture..
(and the Moorish heritage )

Cowboy1968 Jul 7th, 2016 02:03 PM

Tonight I think that I like Portugal better than France ;-)

PalenQ Jul 7th, 2016 02:09 PM

Sorry Pal but you are talking rubbish about the Netherlands. You clearly haven't visited much of it.>

au contraire - I led bike trips thru NL for a decade and then traveled all over by train -I have see more of NL than I'd say many Dutch folk.

And I like the landscapes - just that it is pretty much all the same and one town's pedestrian shopping zone seems a clone of each other - very pleasant,etc.

But you are dead wrong that I have not visited much of it - I have been to all part of NL- all parts - perhaps more than you have?

You know I love Amsterdam and NL and many Dutch cities-some of the nicest in Europe but a canal in Haarlem looks pretty much the same as a canal in Utrecht or Leiden, etc.

Much of NL seems to lack much variety on the whole.

Whathello Jul 7th, 2016 02:16 PM

'Au contraire' in Dutchland is not really understood - try 'integendeel'.

There is a bigger variety of landscape than one may expect.
But if you want to see what NL has to offer - And more, jsut go to Belgium.

wantgelato Jul 7th, 2016 02:26 PM

In exactly two weeks I'll be visiting France for the first time. For now (in my opinion), Switzerland remains the most beautiful and pristine country I've ever had the pleasure of visiting. Ireland is a very close second with it's rich green rolling hillsides, followed by Italy and it's vastness in landscape. I can't wait to see what France has to offer, but Switzerland will be hard to beat in the beauty department.

tonfromleiden Jul 7th, 2016 02:30 PM

»the flat boring countryside of canals ... and cows and cows and cows and... cows«
Where else do you have such wide horizons in an endless green sea of meadows, only broken by some church tower of windmill, and filled with those slow moving gentle creatures?

»but a canal in Haarlem looks pretty much the same as a canal in Utrecht or Leiden«
Who can mistake a canal in Leiden for one in Haarlem or Delft or Schiedam? If there is one country where every village or city very much looks the same, it's France.

IMDonehere Jul 7th, 2016 02:59 PM

Switzerland is one of the most beautiful European countries we have visited but it was like a stereotypical model, once you got past that there was little.

I can honestly say there is not country that is the most beautiful.

There is nothing like the stark beauty of Sicily adorned with Greek antiquities. Two of the oddest and captivating landscapes on earth are Cappadocia and Pamukkale in Turkey (yes they are on the Aisan side). The houses that hang over the gorge in Cuenca, Spain. How Mt. St. Michel seemingly rises from the ocean. The rolling tulips in Holland and the quaintness of places like Delft and Brugge. The silence of the WWI battlefields in Belgium.
The undulating countryside of England and Ireland. The sight from the top of the mountain in Braga, Portugal.

PalenQ Jul 7th, 2016 03:09 PM

I guess the impression of 'boring'countryside depends on your mode of transport - riding a bike thousands of miles thru Dutch landscapes for years perhaps made me jaded - there is little natural beauty - every inch of land being put to some use- lots of parks but I mean real forests like we have in northern Michigan or wild looking areas- like Hooge Veluwe or the Plaatsen or the Frisian Islands or Delta Worksarea or narrow strips along the coast which most folks don't even see-yes there are some vest pocket areas of natural beauty - such as the above and the coasts but otherwise pretty much the same ole same old which is nice but after thousands of miles biking thru flat lands one begs for some hills.

Our bike route went:
Antwerp - Dordrecht- Breda- Rotterdam - Rijnsburg - Nieuwe Vennep (sp?)- Amsterdam - Breukelen - Utrecht - Bilthoven (a path of sand dunes there) - Arnhem - Nijmegen - Venlo and though there is some variety it largely flat farms dotted by modern urban areas. The Netherlands I believe has a density greater than India and perhaps any other country in the world - thus you are rarely really out in the countryside most places and the urban areas except the historic centrums in some older towns, are yes pretty much all the same.

I do like the mixture or farm and cities - cows grazing by high-rise flats but there is just so so little natural areas.

I guess being from Michigan we get a jaded view of what forests and swamps and wild-looking places should be like-most of Holland seems drawn up on an architects blueprint inside and outside of towns - with the exception of the old town centrums ubiquitously ringed by high-rise modern buildings.

Between Amsterdam and The Hague by train, car or bike you are never really in any countryside that does not have such modern urban developments in sight. Again I understand the value of land and how most of it must be put to as utilitarian a use as possible.

I do love The Netherlands and especially respect the Dutch for the Herculean job they have done managing water and land but even the polders such as in the Alkmaar to Amsterdam area are same ole same ole.

August2015 Jul 7th, 2016 03:13 PM

We say in Russian: "don't put salt on my wounds." France is beautiful, as is Switzerland and much of Europe. Too bad I live on another continent now.

EYWandBTV Jul 7th, 2016 05:58 PM

Just returned from touring northern part of UK Lakes district, the Pennines, Northumberland, Scottish Borders and Western Highlands. Talk about stunning beauty and variety!

kerouac Jul 7th, 2016 08:39 PM

You are referring to the fabulous beaches or the stunning snow capped mountains?

justineparis Jul 7th, 2016 09:44 PM

I have to say.. the hills they call mountains in some countries are so very disappointing.. I can only assume they are admired mostly by those who have never seen real mountains..lol
The first time we went to Dublin I was so excited to be going to the Wicklow Mountains.. ba ha ha.. those soft little hills ..

Whathello Jul 7th, 2016 10:45 PM

Highest mountain in the world is found in .... Belgium of course.
694 m high, 2277 feet for those backwards who didn't adopt the metric system.

Never been myself (fear of heights) but I do guess you can have a beer on the top of the workd !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_de_Botrange

Whathello Jul 7th, 2016 10:47 PM

I do confirm that all villages look alike in France : Tourtour is the exact clone of Douai or Riquewihr or Mazerolles or Montréal or La Trinité sur mer.

Guenmai Jul 8th, 2016 12:22 AM

"What country do you think is the most beautiful in Europe?"

Norway

Happy Travels!

theotherside Jul 8th, 2016 02:04 AM

I've been to quite a few countries around the world, and all of them have beauty in their own right. I live in Australia which also has a lot of beautiful places.
The one thing France has is a lot of beautiful places with such variety; the Alps, the mountain top villages, the French Riviera, the Pyrenees, the country side and villages of Provence, Ancient sites such as Pont du Gard, Gorges du Verdon which is Europes largest, old ruins of castles in the Dordogne and the preserved Chateaux of the Loire valley, and it goes on. Add to the beauty its food and drink,culture and preservation of its history, there's no other country in the world which offers so much.
Correct me if I am wrong PalenQ, I think this the meassage you are trying to convey?

Cowboy1968 Jul 8th, 2016 03:48 AM

If you want the variety of a continent squeezed into an area less the size of Connecticut you should visit Montenegro.

cilburke Jul 8th, 2016 03:48 AM

No-one has mentioned Normandy (north of Paris). I thought the countryside was beautiful.

stevelyon Jul 8th, 2016 06:35 AM

Almost agree that it's the most beautiful, but France hasn't got Blackpool or the Yorkshire Dales.

menachem Jul 8th, 2016 06:45 AM

I love The Netherlands too but it's same ole same old everywhere - cookie cutter modern cities and nary a hill in sight except along the German border - tower block flats everywhere but Amsterdam and some old cities like Haarlem, Alkmaar and Delft and Utrecht and Leiden, etc are neat but talking here about the flat boring countryside of canals and sluitjes and fields with trees for windbreaks and cows and cows and cows and... cows!

Just come back from 225 km, riding from Rotterdam to Sneek, Friesland, in a day. Glorious summer weather, and a ride that had everything, polder landscapes from the 17th century and from the early 20th century, Amsterdam, but also Hoorn and Medemblik: Cities made big in the golden age, but since then frozen in time. A wonderful dash across the Afsluitdijk in the evening, the sun and the wind at my back, reveling in seeing IJsselmeer and Waddenzee simultaneously. And then as the reward via Witmarsum and Bolsward to Sneek, through pastures so green it made my eyes hurt.

For someone who has led cycle tours through the Netherlands, you are surprisingly ill attuned to the Dutch landscape, PalenQ!

kerouac Jul 8th, 2016 09:06 AM

Isn't nationalism wonderful?

menachem Jul 8th, 2016 09:35 AM

is this about nationalism? wasn't aware.

whatever, kerouac.

menachem Jul 8th, 2016 09:38 AM

"Between Amsterdam and The Hague by train, car or bike you are never really in any countryside that does not have such modern urban developments in sight. Again I understand the value of land and how most of it must be put to as utilitarian a use as possible."

That's really strange, PalenQ, because you missed Midden Delfland, Het Groene Hart near Leiden, the entire peat river landscape between Alphen a/d Rijn and Amsterdam, Waterland, the Beemster polder, the IJsselmeer coast near Hoorn, etc. But I agree, cycling up and down the Amsterdam Rhine Kanaal is a bit tedious.


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