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Digital_Traveler Aug 4th, 2004 08:37 PM

European Crossword Puzzle #7
 
Here is the continuation of http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...p;tid=34515838

Clue: This Italian had one of his works sell at Christie's in 1990 for $1.5 Million.

Italian: 2 words, 1st word is 8 letters, 2nd word is 12 letters with the 3rd letter an "A" from Piano.

Hometown: 1 word, 7 letters with the 2nd letter an "R" from Foster.

Digital_Traveler Aug 4th, 2004 10:57 PM

Correction: Italian: 2 words, 1st word is 8 letters, 2nd word is 12 letters with the 4th letter an "A" from Piano.

111op Aug 5th, 2004 03:43 AM

I'm taking a guess, as I can't really Italian artists with names that seem to fit the clue.

Antonius (should this be Antonio, but that has 7 letters?) Stradivarius

Cremona

Digital_Traveler Aug 5th, 2004 06:16 AM

111op,

Good guess. I avoid the word artist so it would be a tad bit more challenging.

Antonius Stradivarius is correct. Usually Antonio is only used with the bastardized Antonio Stradivari.

111op Aug 5th, 2004 06:24 AM

Right. I guess, as usual, once you figure out what the real thing is, it's not too difficult to make an educated guess.

Clue: The end result of this act committed by (person: first name = 9 letters, second name = 6 letters, 2nd = "o") over two hundred years ago is well-documented by a famous painting located in this city (city: 8 letters).

111op Aug 5th, 2004 06:34 AM

Ok, maybe I'm a little too obscure. Let's just make it easier. A woman committed this act.

111op Aug 5th, 2004 08:44 AM

Hint: Though I've been thinking of using this as a clue for a while, I decided to use it when I found out, to my surprise, that she's related to a famous person who just died.

yk Aug 5th, 2004 08:52 AM

That definitely made it a lot easier!
Charlotte Corday
Brussels
Painting is The Death of Marat by Jaques-Louis David

yk Aug 5th, 2004 08:54 AM

It appears that Edvard Munch has also painted the same subject as well.

111op Aug 5th, 2004 08:55 AM

Yes, of course. She's related to Henri-Cartier Bresson. How interesting.

Any references to Jacques-Louis David, Marat or the French Revolution would have made this clue too easy. :-)

So you can go next.

111op Aug 5th, 2004 08:56 AM

I was not aware that Munch had painted on the same subject. That's interesting. I thought about making an effort to see the original in Brussels, but since I didn't have enough time, I didn't bother. :-)

yk Aug 5th, 2004 09:18 AM

Are you always in such a rush when you travel? BTW, have to decided where you're going next month?


Next clue:
This hotel/restaurant is most famous for its collection of art. Multiple artists apperently paid for their meals with their artwork instead of money. Next to the pool in this hotel stands a sculpture by this artist (who has made his debut in previous crossword thread).

Hotel/restaurant: 3 words, 2,7,3
The 3rd word contains a punctuation mark. "a" lies in the 2nd position of 1st word
Artist: last name 6 letters. "a" lies in the 2nd position.

111op Aug 5th, 2004 09:26 AM

Ok, Calder and La Colombe d'Or.

(The Calder clue made it obvious.) :-)

yk Aug 5th, 2004 09:33 AM

Yes! Almost seems like we are "recycling" our clues these days!

111op Aug 5th, 2004 09:38 AM

Well it's difficult to come with things that are challenging and interesting.

111op Aug 5th, 2004 09:42 AM

Clue: The shapes of France and Germany can be traced back to this treaty (name of treaty = 6 letters) that partitioned this empire into three parts. (name of empire = 11 letters, 2nd = "a")

111op Aug 5th, 2004 09:47 AM

By the way, I don't know Colombe d'Or, but I'll have to check it out if I find myself in that part of the world.

Still haven't decided where I'm going yet. I'm still leaning towards a Rhine cruise and the Bernina Express and Venice, but we'll see.

I've been thinking of going to Paris over Labor Day weekend though, but, of course, when I checked prices again today, they've gone up by $200. So the flights I want are about $860. Oh well. I don't know what I'm going to do yet.

In any case, within the past couple of years, I haven't taken trips that are longer than two weeks. So they're always rushed, unfortunately. But it really is possible to see a lot in a short period of time if you put your mind to it. :-)

Huitres Aug 5th, 2004 09:51 AM

Verdun Treaty of 843 divided the Carolingian Empire into 3 kingdoms between Louis the Pious' 3 sons (of which France and Germany were shaped from).

I actually knew this without Google - I love Medieval History! :)

111op Aug 5th, 2004 09:55 AM

Yay! Now someone else can give us a clue. :-) (I noticed that you came up Orleans very quickly the other time.)

I know that I can't get your clues though -- they're usually on pirates and people I've not heard of. :-)

Anyway, I've been sort of reading up on this. It's interesting but confusing. I can never keep the list of characters straight -- and everyone seems to be called Charles, Henry or Louis.

Huitres Aug 5th, 2004 10:09 AM

Ok, this is a rather long, but interesting clue...... :)

This series of wars (5 letters, 2nd letter is "U" from Verdun) were fought between these two warring republics (8 letters and 5 letters, respectively).

One of the leaders (8 letters, 7th letter is "A" from Carolingian) wreaked havoc throughout Italy, especially at this lake in Umbria (9 letters), which resulted in over 15,000 soldiers dead in 3 hours!


111op Aug 5th, 2004 10:17 AM

Punic
Carthage
Rome (Roman?)
Hannibal
Trasimeno

grandmere Aug 5th, 2004 10:17 AM

Punic Wars.
Carthage and Italy
Hannibal
no lake yet!

111op Aug 5th, 2004 10:18 AM

It's interesting -- I was actually thinking of constructing a Hannibal clue. Don't recall this battle though. But there's a battle at Zama that's stuck in my brain. :-)

This isn't quite medieval history though. :-)


grandmere Aug 5th, 2004 10:18 AM

Trasimeno!

111op Aug 5th, 2004 10:19 AM

Hey, grandmere, I've the lake. But I guess Italy fits the clue a little better. You want to take the next clue?

Huitres Aug 5th, 2004 10:23 AM

111op: brava - you got it! Yes, it's 'Roman' republic. Perhaps the lake in Umbria gave it away, there aren't too many there.......Anyway, it's a very interesting site, I went to Lake Trasimeno 9 months ago and walked along the riverbanks where over 15,000 Roman soldiers were killed in the ferocious 3 hour battle. It's hard to believe that such a slaughter could have taken place in such a (now) tranquil setting. The lake is beautiful and the surrounding area is so nice (close to Cortona in Tuscany).

111op Aug 5th, 2004 10:26 AM

You live somewhere in Europe, right, Huitres? I forget where exactly.

I used to love Roman history -- I took Latin, which, alas, I've all forgotten.

Grandmere can have the next clue. We basically posted at the same time. Anyway, I'm running out of interesting clues to give. :-)


grandmere Aug 5th, 2004 11:53 AM

This virtuoso (first name hyphenated, 4-6, last name 4) plays this instrument, (8 letters), which is said to evoke mystery and wonder. There is a seminar held in this European town (5 letters, last letter "a" from Hannibal) for instruction in this instrument.

111op Aug 5th, 2004 01:53 PM

Ok, I'll have to make some random guesses here:

The name is probably French, since it's hyphenated 4-6. So a Jean-Pierre or a Jean-Pascal fits the clue.

There's a Jean-Pascal Post who plays the clarinet.

No clue as to the town, but Siena fits the bill as well as others, no doubt.

Is the instrument really as prosaic as the clarinet? I'm thinking that the instrument has to be somewhat exotic.

I thought of the ondes martenot. Theremin?

???

yk Aug 5th, 2004 02:15 PM

111op- you're too funny. I spent the whole afternoon learning about bombarde, toragato, gayageum, calliope, carillon... etc. Nothing seems to fit the bill.

As for places, I thought about Siena, Lucca, Genoa. But basically gave up at this point.

yk Aug 5th, 2004 02:16 PM

I thought the clarinet was too straight forward. Somehow, I have a hunch it might be the dulcimer, but again unable to figure anything out...

111op Aug 5th, 2004 02:30 PM

Sounds like we must be looking at the same list of musical instruments. :-)

For some reason I think it's the ondes martenot -- though the number of letters doesn't fit.

I just bought a ticket from AA for Paris. The price was back to where it was yesterday, which was $670. So I'll be off for Labor Day weekend. Yippee!

grandmere Aug 5th, 2004 03:07 PM

Hint: Ovid gives clues to this ancient instrument at end of Book One of Metamorphoses!

Lucky you, 111op, going to Paris in scant weeks!

cmt Aug 5th, 2004 03:22 PM

I haven't been on these puzzle threas in a really long time, and I missed an entire thread. (You were really busy!) I've spent the last half hour researching futilely mandolins and dulcimers and cimbaloms, but now I have to go out. At this point, I'm thinking about panflutes and a seminar in Arosa, but haven't found a virtuoso yet.

Huitres Aug 5th, 2004 04:16 PM

I think it is a panflute too, just don't know the name of the virtuoso either!

111op, no, I don't live in Europe, although I have many family members that do (sister in Germany, brother in France, aunt & uncle in Moscow, etc). I am there about 5-6 times a year and do hope to move to Italy next year!

yk Aug 5th, 2004 04:47 PM

You know, I concur with panflute (or panpipes?)
The several players with 4 letter last names do not have hyphenated first names (Damina Luca, Cornel Pana).

Ok, here's my answer:
Papageno!

yk Aug 5th, 2004 04:57 PM

Oh, BTW, 111op, Paris again?! I guess one can never get tired of Paris. But what about your Rhine/Bernina Express/Venice plan? :)
I'm stuck in the US these days, just a short hop over to SF end of this month. :(

grandmere Aug 5th, 2004 05:46 PM

Panflute it is, seminar in Arosa, and the musician is Jean-Claude Mara!

I got acquainted with him and his panflute (via cassette, pre-CD) one beautiful late spring morning in Apt, walking by a store where the sounds were drifting out onto the street.

So, you're next, cmt!

Digital_Traveler Aug 5th, 2004 05:46 PM

Jean-Claude Mara
Panflute
Arosa Switzerland

http://www.mara-productions.com/index.htm

111op Aug 6th, 2004 03:48 AM

Glad to see that you guys all figured out the clue!

I guess I'm getting a little tired of Paris, but well, it's not like I know it that well, and I tend to take the same flights on AA if I can -- they work very well for me (evening departures there and return). I thought of going to Lisbon, but it seems like I've to connect and I just don't feel like it this time. And I still haven't been to Scandinavia. But anyway, going to Paris takes about the same amount of time as London, and I guess I still prefer Paris, and I just want to do something else for a couple of days.

Just wish that tickets were cheaper though.

Still thinking about Rhine and Bernina Express and Venice -- for that I'll actually take a week off. I'm not taking any time off for Paris (so I'm just there for the long weekend and will fly back on Monday).


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