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jalexp3 Jan 13th, 2007 12:47 PM

Dinner at Jules Verne?
 
The last night of our 22nd anniversary trip in May will be in Paris. Is dinner at Jules Verne in the Eiffel Tower worth it? Are ties required?

plafield Jan 13th, 2007 01:52 PM

"worth it" is very subjective and relative. The food is very good, highly over priced and the view and the romance is priceless. Reservations must be made many months in advance (try now for May)and a suit and tie is appropriate.

Have a great time. Happy Anniversary.

ira Jan 13th, 2007 01:57 PM

Hi J,

Ties are no longer required anywhere but at funerals.

((I))

NeoPatrick Jan 13th, 2007 02:16 PM

Jules Verne was recently taken over by Alaine Ducasse. It should be better than ever. It will close in July (I believe) for a makeover.

NeoPatrick Jan 13th, 2007 02:17 PM

Yes, I know there's no e on Alain. How did that get there? Damn fingers.

bumper Jan 13th, 2007 02:29 PM

Our dinner at Jules Verne three years ago is one of the most memorable meals we have ever had. It is expensive (my wife's lobster appetizer was $75.00) but to see the light come on throughout Paris is about as romantic as it gets. Our meals were wonderful and with Alain Ducasse taking over the kitchen, the food will continue to be outstanding. Make sure to request a table by the window when you book; we noticed a number of tables in the middle of the room and would not have been happy if we had been seated at one of them. All things considered,it was the most romantic meal we have ever experienced. BTW, it was our 22nd anniversary also.

robjame Jan 13th, 2007 02:49 PM

plafield and bumper are right on the mark!!
I sure hope NeoPatrick is right about it being better than ever

RonZ Jan 13th, 2007 08:07 PM

To make a reservation, send a fax and include your Paris phone number. They will return a form letter, and you can show this to the elevator operator.

Fodorite018 Jan 13th, 2007 08:44 PM

We called JV this week to make reservations for June and they said they are not sure when they will close for rennovations. The gentleman said to call back in early May and they will know, but they are looking at either June, July or August to close for about a month.

FauxSteMarie Jan 13th, 2007 08:51 PM

If you go for lunch during the week instead of dinner, they do have fixed price specials. Lunch is always cheaper than dinner in "big ticket" Paris restaurants.

There are plenty of other restaurants you can eat at if price is a consideration--and given that it will be your anniversary, I bet you will have a great time wherever you go!

jalexp3 Jan 14th, 2007 07:30 AM

Thanks to all. I don't mind the splurge for our anniversary. I read the other forums on JV. The view and atmosphere get **** but the comments on the food seem mixed (although those were B.D. - before Ducasse). Where was he before?

jalexp3 Jan 14th, 2007 07:31 AM

P.S. Ira, we're staying at the Bonaparte. Thanks for the suggestion.

robjame Jan 14th, 2007 09:55 AM

One further observation about Jules Verne - have coffee at the bar after the meal. There is little need for dessert as they will bring you delices (little tarts, maccaroons, truffles, etc. The bar area is quite intimate, close to another window over Paris that will give you another, different look. The bar itself is fantastic with a magnificent espresso machine. And if you enjoy a cigarette or cigar after the meal...

ira Jan 14th, 2007 09:57 AM

Hi J,

>...the comments on the food seem mixed (although those were B.D. - before Ducasse). Where was he before?<

You might want to Google "Alain Ducasse". :)

I hope you enjoy your stay at the Bonaparte.

((I))

jalexp3 Jan 15th, 2007 08:49 AM

I googled Ducasse. Big shot. Guess he can cook too. No dinner reservations available at JV through May. I even tried the AMEX conceirge. A few lunch reservations were available but I prefer dinner to lunch. Any other suggestions for our first fancy dinner in Paris?

lawchick Jan 15th, 2007 09:07 AM

Jules Verne is great - and don't under estimate lunch - you get a birds eye view of Paris - in daylight and you don't have to queue for the lift...

I am glad to hear it's having a facelift - those "desktop lamps" must go.

For more Ducasse try the Plaza Athénée.

Or go the Guy Savoy route to happiness.



NeoPatrick Jan 15th, 2007 09:58 AM

I think the most universally "rave" compliments for a splurge special restaurant in Paris would be Taillevent. Has anyone ever been the least bit unhappy there?

robjame Jan 15th, 2007 10:05 AM

I agree with you NeoPatrick if you are talking about meal quality however, for a once in a lifetime, place to remember, meal to tell your friends and family about, you cannot beat Jules Verne. Everyone has heard of the Eiffel Tower.

NeoPatrick Jan 15th, 2007 10:12 AM

I agree wholeheartedly with that. I was responding to the poster's request for an alternate choice if they can't get evening reservations at JV.

Although, I've never understood the idea of doing something because you can tell your family and friends you did it. Maybe that's just me. In fact I probably wouldn't tell most of the family and friends where we ate.

ira Jan 15th, 2007 10:17 AM

Hi J,

>...I prefer dinner to lunch. Any other suggestions for our first fancy dinner in Paris?<

1. Lunch at JV is not to be sneered at, and the prices are lower.

2. Before I suggest Taillevent: how much of a foodie are you? Will you appreciate dinner at about $200 pp?

3: If not, you might want to consider Le Train Bleu for the atmosphere.
www.le-train-bleu.com/

((I))

SuzieC Jan 15th, 2007 11:07 AM

next big splurge for me will be Les Ombres at at the Museum Quai Branly - as far as I can tell in searching Fodors, no one has reported eating there...

I'll volunteer to be the first!!!!???

The pictures are breathtaking.

jalexp3 Jan 15th, 2007 06:37 PM

I checked out Le Train Bleu's website. Beautiful place. I do consider myself a foodie (money is not an issue for this meal anyway) but this is our first time to Paris without kids, so the fine dining experience there is all new. A good problem.
Taillivent, Le Tour d'Argent, Guy Savoy all sound like good options too. Tough choice. Another good problem.

robjame Jan 15th, 2007 06:43 PM

I would drop Tour D'Argent a little farther down the list - not a big fan. I don't think it is in the same category as your other choices.

NeoPatrick Jan 15th, 2007 07:51 PM

The reason I mentioned Taillevent, is because I swear I never hear a complaint, only raves. Yet I've seen a lot of people who were disappointed with Guy Savoy (some saying it just wasn't worth it) and even more so with Tour de Argent -- all kinds of complaints including snobby attitude, disappointing service, and even not-outstanding food.

I had my birthday dinner at Le Train Bleu last summer. The setting is wonderful and our service was superb. The food was surprisingly good -- better than I expected, but it certainly won't rank with the other places mentioned as far as really fine dining goes. The worst problem in July was the lack of air conditioning. We left literally soaking wet -- unbelievably hot inside.

ira Jan 16th, 2007 03:02 AM

Hi J,

>A good problem.
Taillivent, Le Tour d'Argent, Guy Savoy all sound like good options too.

Tour d'Argent has been reduced to 1*, but still charges 3* prices. Its major draw is looking at Notre Dame lit up at night.

((I))

Dukey Jan 16th, 2007 03:33 AM

What's wrong with that???

NeoPatrick Jan 16th, 2007 04:04 AM

"What's wrong with that?"

Dukey, are you saying you enjoy paying 3 star prices for 1 star food just for a great view. You're entitled to do that, but most people would rather get food that they paid for. No?

ira Jan 16th, 2007 05:54 AM

Hi Dukey,

What if you don't get a table by a window?

((I))

ira Jan 16th, 2007 05:57 AM

BTW, J

You might want to consider Laperousse on the Quai des Grands Augustins.

See the Paris part of my trip report for details:
http://fodors.com/forums/threadselec...p;tid=34676645

((I))

jenic Jan 27th, 2007 05:29 PM

So, if JV is not operating in July, where would you suggest we go for a great lunch or dinner with a view on the 21st of July? What about the cafe on the Trocadero?

djkbooks Jan 27th, 2007 10:03 PM

If you are lucky enough to be able to book dinner (recommend the earliest time), do it.

Once Ducasse (or, more likely, his "staff") takes over, all bets are off.

We've done this three times. It just could not be more romantic to arrive at the earliest time (best chance of a window table) and enjoy daylight, then dusk, twilight, sunset (if there is one that day). This "level" is plenty high for enjoying the scenery all about, and you should advise the staff that you wish to go outside after dinner, then enjoy your dessert/coffee in the lounge after. Once you've explored all about outside, the views are the very best from the lounge (Notre Dame, Pont Alexandre III, Place de la Concorde...). Most wander right past on their way out without even noticing. And, there's a magnificent pianist/vocalist. And, the chef emerges from the kitchen for comments and photo ops (along with cookbook signings).

You can get by without a tie, but why wouldn't you want to wear one?

ira Jan 28th, 2007 04:37 AM

Hey dj,

>You can get by without a tie, but why wouldn't you want to wear one?<

And they have called me an old fogie for suggesting the wearing of a jacket. :) :)

((I))

NeoPatrick Jan 28th, 2007 05:44 AM

ira, just for the record, most of us who have called you an old fogie (or insinuated it) were referring to your insistance that a gentleman always wears a jacket at any ordinary brasserie or simple restaurant. I'm not sure anyone would call you one for suggesting a jacket and YES, even a tie at a place like Jules Verne. Quite a different matter. And also for the record, yes, even I would be wearing a jacket AND tie at Jules Verne in the evening -- maybe not a tie for a lunch there in the summer.

Bettina222 Jan 28th, 2007 06:26 AM

Mind if I jump in here?
I wasn't able to make dinner reservations but did manage reservations for lunch in April.
I hate to sound stupid but what would be considered "proper attire" at lunch time?
Thanks!

FauxSteMarie Jan 28th, 2007 11:26 AM

I wouldn't overdress. You can be neatly dressed without going to the suit coat and tie extreme.

My personal favorite is Pre Catalan in the Bois de Boulogne, but I haven't been to other big ticket places aside from Jules Verne. I believe I have been to JV twice, but not in recent years so I could not comment on Ducasse.

If you search for "Pre Catalan" on fodors, you will find out why I enjoyed myself so much.

ira Jan 28th, 2007 11:30 AM

Hi B,

>...what would be considered "proper attire" at lunch time?<

I'd wear a jacket - sans tie, but many have suggested essentially what you would wear to dinner at a golf club.

((I))



ira Jan 28th, 2007 11:31 AM

Hi NP,

>..I would be wearing a jacket AND tie at Jules Verne in the evening -..<

I ain't going if I have to wear a tie. :)

((I))

NeoPatrick Jan 28th, 2007 12:56 PM

"I'd wear a jacket - sans tie, but many have suggested essentially what you would wear to dinner at a golf club."

This is confusing to me. Here in Naples most golf clubs require a jacket for men in the evenings (no tie)-- so I'd be dressed just like you are at Jules Verne!

kat12 Jan 28th, 2007 03:34 PM

I was thinking about having lunch at Jules Verne when we're there, but I wondered, too, if anyone has enjoyed a drink at the piano bar there, and is that worth considering....


FauxSteMarie Jan 28th, 2007 08:48 PM

Only Americans on internet message boards worry about what they wear to restaurants in France. Let me assure you that you will see everything and anything. Obviously, you cannot bring your whole wardrobe with you on a holiday. No restaurant will turn you away because you are minus a tie or are wearing clunky shoes (ladies) in lieu of high heels. Just wear what you would feel comfortable wearing at a similar place at home and don't spend a lot of time obsessing over it. You will be fine.


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