Clover Restaurant!!
 

I have just received confirmation of my Clover reservation.

Catherine Constant told me that it was the MOST difficult one to get in Paris!!

a bientot...

Joan

So you got into a trendy new restaurant? Congratulations I guess.

Be sure to post up a trip report.

Lucky you! You know we'll all be waiting for your review & photos on that one.

Looking forward to your review!

I just Googled "Clover Restaurant Paris" and this thread from Joan was the 4th one listed. Nice job Joan. Maybe we'll give it a try in October.

Stu Dudley

I have a reservation at Buccan in Palm Beach for Saturday night!!

Anyone else with pending reservations???

Buccan in Palm Beach is one of our considerably overrated restaurants. Was trendy last year. Don't know about this year.

"Congratulations, I guess." Really??

I'm no shrinking violet, but truly, I don't understand the point of this kind of snarky remark. OP obviously is delighted to have secured a reservation and to share the news with others. For those who don't care or disapprove of OP's views and interests, why belittle her?

There are many wonderful people on this site, but the rude and condescending few need to find their inner voices. Ick.

And their "inside" voices.

But we don't know if it is any good yet, just that it is difficult to get a reservation. People would have to be extremely dogmatic to automatically think that the place is a sensation until Gracejoan tells us about the experience.

Here's the chowhound thread on Clover:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/1000614

[eks, I've got a rez at Kin Khao in SF on Friday night.]

Lyn: Buccan may or not be "trendy" but their food is far better than any I have sampled in the area during the past two winters and the current one. The chef is a Beard nominee, so I guess I am not alone in my opinion here.

Coicidentally, Cafe Clover just opened in NYC.

Hi, Leely!

Here is the NYC link:


http://www.zagat.com/b/new-york-city...e-west-village

Leely you are lucky to live in such a food-rich city!

Escrunchy, I think that clover is one of a chair of health conscious restaurants. One has opened around the corner where I live. i'll check further.

Hi, eks! Enjoy your vacation.

Unfortunately, food rich = wallet poor at times.

We'll see if the OP likes the Paris Clover. Another JF Piège restaurant.

Speaking of the 7th, I had a long, leisurely lunch at David Toutain this summer and it was excellent. My only really decadent meal in Paris (had just gone hog wild in Rome and Bologna).

I have certainly lost track of what we are obliged to think about this place. I'm not sure if it is obligatory to agree with reviews or if any leeway is allowed for a different opinion if one goes to such a place.

Maybe it is all linked together so that all similar places must be loved without question.

http://johntalbottsparis.typepad.com...high-note.html

How do they clean those pavers? I am not sure I would enjoy that meal.

They probably force anybody wanting a reservation to do it for them.

I just wondering where is the OP?

Kerouac, cut down a pine tree while they are waiting also. :)

I think I might have skipped in even starting this thread. Supposedly the forum is to pass on information to travelers that they might be interested in. Since this was a new restaurant, by an already popular chef, highly mentioned by other known reviewers...like John Talbott...I thought I might pass on that I had secured a reservation and would give it a try! There has been so much strange, unrelated posting on here that I think I will just forget about passing on our review next week.

a bientot....

Joan

I am sorry if I came across as snarky.

Here is more from John Talbott:

http://johntalbottsparis.typepad.com...rb-your-m.html

I find positive restaurant reviews very dull. Any chance of some negative ones, these just fill my heart with joy. Go on, someone must have had a bad meal somewhere. Your lack of pleasure could save me a fortune.

Have a great day

I am very interested in reading about new restaurants/menus/reviews etc., in Paris, particularly from Gracejoan3. If you're not a foodie, don't bother reading such posts and take a pass on sarcastic, inane and unwanted remarks, please. This site seems more and more to be a magnet for negativism. So tiresome. Whatever happened to positive reinforcement?

I look forward to her restaurant reviews as well.

Really, travel!

"If you're not a foodie"; I am
"sarcastic"; it's not
"inane"; it's not
"and unwanted remarks"; I cannot help that

"please". Thanks

Nothing wrong with "positive reinforcement", but sometimes much funnier writing :-)

Have a great day.

Hi grancejoan3,
I hope you will let us know how you liked Clover. I always read about your trip experiences while I take a lunch break at work...eating my low-fat yogart...and very much miss your posts. Your photos make everything look so delicious!

Look, I love to eat out but each place is open to reviews and critics. I just asked an obvious question on their serving dishes. We use slate for a cheese plate but the pine and Paris pavers had me intrigued.

Perhaps it is better to start a thread when you have actually been to a restaurant rather than just announcing triumphantly that you have obtained a reservation.

Just my way of thinking, totally unimportant...

That is more or less what prompted me to respond.

I always cringed when I would read threads beginning with: "I won't be posting for 4 days..off on my cruise!!" "Will be away from the Lounge for 3 hours..have a dentist appt!!"

But my response was probably snarky, as I mentioned so if it caused offense, I'm sorry.

I guess I don't understand. You post a snarky response, then apologize if anyone was offended.

Just own it.

If you regularly post snark, accept that is who you are and stop apologizing, really. Apologizing doesn't help anyone's opinion of you, especially if you regularly post snark first.

If you regularly post snark, accept that is who you are and stop apologizing, really. Apologizing doesn't help anyone's opinion of you, especially if you regularly post snark first.>>

well, that doesn't apply to ekscrunchy, so her apology should, by those lights, be accepted.

I suspect that the OP is feeling a little sensitive after the recent notorious thread which went south very rapidly due to a troll. i don't know enough about the food scene in Paris to know whether I'm supposed to be excited about Clover, but Grace's recommendations seem pretty sound, so it'll be nice to know what she thinks when she gets there.

and isn't the anticipation half the pleasure? even if it's vicarious.

I'm not planning on returning to Paris this year, maybe not next, but I would still like to hear Grace's review of Clover. I always thought giving one's opinion and reviews on hotels, restaurants and tourist sites was the raison d' être for Fodors. Seems like lately it's become more of a sounding post for negative opinions.

Thank you, Ann.

To Persuader: I do not usually post "snark," and I think it is perfectly fine to apologize to the OP for posting something that was not well thought out.

I am the last person who should criticize anyone for being excited about restaurants or food. I would also like to read the review if Grace is kind enough to post it after the meal.

Ekscrunchy, not to worry. Those of us who have en here for years know you are not one of the meanies You are a nice helpful posters.

I certainly wasn't referring to ekscrunchy either. Like other Fodorires here, I pretty much know the good guys from the bullies. Just seems to be more bullies lately.

The advice from John Talbott was welcome - many a meal has been ruined by people, their nationality always the same, at nearby tables. Why do some diners think it is up to them to fill the whole restaurant with their din?

BTW, I am sure Gracejoan is the opposite of these types, and it is pleasant to hear about her interactions with friendly proprietors.

We've had dinner with Joan in Paris on several occasions. She is definitely not one to "fill the whole restaurant with their din". She is actually just the opposite.

Stu Dudley