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center bulkhead, window or aisle?
I currently have a bulkhead center seat on a long trip from Chicago to Frankfurt. Should I try and change to a window seat (or maybe aisle seat?) Which do you prefer? I love the idea of extra leg-room, but I don't want to end up slumped over on a stranger's shoulder if I (hopefully) fall asleep. I may not even have the opportunity to switch, but just in case. What's your opinion?
Thanks, Laurie |
I prefer the isle, so I won't disturb anybody if I want to get up and stretch. ((b))
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Hi B,
My Lady wife and I have taken to aisle seats for transatlantic flights. You can stretch your outside leg. About halfway, we switch seats and stretch the other leg. ((I)) |
I prefer the aisle so I don't have to climb over someone (or wake them up) to get out. This may not be a problem in the bulkhead seat since you won't have a reclined seat in front of you. I would still prefer not to be in the middle though.
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Don't sweat the slumping. If you sleep with your head stabilized with a neck pillow (seats on some carriers have folding head supports), you'll stay centered.
Rejoice in the legroom, and the absence of some guy's dandruff in your chicken cacciatore. |
Aisle seat is always my first choice in order to allow for hourly walking and stretching. Try to keep appendages out of the way of rolling carts, however.
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Have you checked seatguru to see if the bulkhead actually has more leg room? Not all bulkhead seats do. Also, I was on a flight from LAX-Maui recently (seated in the row behind the bulkhead), and several passengers repeatedly used the center-section bulkhead to cross over from one aisle to the other during the flight. Watching that was enough to remind me to be careful about picking seats there in the future.
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My preference is for a window seat so I can lean against the wall to sleep.
just curious--why did you create two identical threads, two minutes apart? |
Some aircraft configurations still retain seat rows just aft of the exit doors. There is another row of seats in front of them, but it's six feet away.
This location offers unlimited leg room, the ability for everyone to get in and out without disturbing others, and no movie screen. Paradise. |
If there are the 2-seats-together (ie. seats A,B) we take those. Otherwise, we each get an aisle, across from each other. (ie. C,D)
We once tried to take the 2 ends of a middle-section w/3 seats. An agent told me travelers ticketed together who attempt that risk being moved at boarding to accomodate keeping others together (if the flight is crowded). |
Sorry about the identical postings -- the first one didn't show up right away so I thought I messed up. Anyways, thanks for the seatguru website. Bad news, I think. I'm on a Boeing 777, and the bulkhead seat they assigned me is behind the bathroom wall, which may actually have less leg room. Has anyone sat in a similar seat? How bad is it? I sort of like the idea of being able to put my feet up on the wall (good for my back.) But not being able to stretch my legs under the seat in front of me may drive me nuts. sigh
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Travelnut, there are many other seats than just the first four on the left. Why will you only sit in seats A, B, C, and D?
Oh. You mean <i>e.g.</i> Remember, it's <b>eg</b>zample. |
thanks for today's grammar lesson.
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robespierre - "i.e." is commonly used instead of "egzample" as it stands for "in essence".
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The Latin is <i>id est</i>, and it means "in other words" or "that is to say" in English.
Travelnut, this is not a question of taste, it's about intelligible writing. If you use <i>i.e.</i> when you mean <i>for example</i>, your reader gets confused as to what your actual meaning is. |
And by the way, hipvirgochick, the fact that a word or construction is "commonly used" does not make it correct.
I think language should change, but not if the changes interfere with communication. Yr. most obt. svt. hipcancerdude |
These two abbreviations are rarely interchangeable.
I.e. is the abbreviation for a two-word Latin term, id est. Translated word for word, id est means "that is." E.g. is the abbreviation for a two-word Latin term, exempli gratia. Translated quickly and best, it means "for example." Translated a little longer, it means "for the sake of example," where gratia means "sake," and exempli means "example." Is everybody satisfies??? LOL. |
travelnut...
i'm a little confused (nothing to do with your grammar). you say that you always take two seats together if they are available. then you say that you "tried" to take the aisle seats of the inner section in the same row. the airline then told you that people who "attempt that" .... so were there no seats together or were you doing that in hope that the seat would not be filled (inner section middles are always the last to go) and if it were filled, you would just ask the guy if he wants to change seats with one of you? |
No, this way:
A,B---C,D,E---F,G we'll take A,B (for example) A,B,C---D,E,F---G,H,I we'll take C,D (for example) - if you try to take D,F to leave the middle seat unoccupied, then you might get moved. (according to what that agent said). |
Ok, thanks for the clarification. "in essence" is obviously the slang translation of i.e. ;)
Anyway, I always request the aisle :) I don't like being sandwiched in. Neck pillows help prevent slumping. |
I nearly gave up on this thread after it ended up as a grammar battle but the best bit has to be a poster trying to put others down with their own knowledge writing:
"Is everybody satisfies??? LOL." |
Put me in the minority perhaps, but I really DON'T like bulkhead sets. Why? Because I like legroom and most bulkhead seats to do have as much as regular seats. Before you contest that idea, let me say that I stretch my legs out by putting them under the seat in front of me. Although there may not be a lot extra knee room, it is the ability to stretch my feet out that I prefer. And usually you can't do that in a bulkhead seat. I also limit my carryons so I don't have to take up that space under the seat in front of me with luggage -- that's where I want my feet.
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>.."i.e." is commonly used instead of [e.g.] as it stands for "in essence".
Another example of the general lessening of standards. i.e. (id est) means "that is to say" e.g. (exempli gratia) means "for example". "You are worthy of promotion; i.e., you are one of the few people in the office who comes to work on time." "Your work has made you worthy of promotion, e.g., you are one of the few people in the office who comes to work on time." ((I)) |
Neopolitan makes a good point. Bulkheads usually have less room to stretch out in and there is no seat in front of you to put stuff so everything must go overhead. The only advantage is that there is no seat in front to be reclined into your knees.
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the seats i REALLY don't like are the extra legroom emergency exit seats next to the bathroom, where too many people tend to "hang out", look out window, etc.
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Getting back on topic.
No way would I get a middle seat if I have a choice. Doesn't matter if it's bulkhead or exit rows with limited legroom. Just no way. [Well, unless you're super super tall.] And if you're on UA's 777 (with 2-5-2 seating), and behind the lavatories, do you mean you have seats 31 D, E or F? No way, absolutely no any freaking way, would I take any of those unless there's no window or aisle seat available anywhere else. And if it's 31E, you may as well shoot me! Behind the lavatories, no underseat storage, reduced width, AND a middle seat? You must be kidding me. |
Bingo -- you got it. 31E. That was me. But THANKFULLY, after being on hold for half an hour, thinking all the good seats were flying out the window, I got a window seat!!! Yahoo!! It's not in the last row of the plane, but it's back there. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, everyone, for all the great information and the great seatguru website! I've learned a lot from this.
Laurie |
Well, I'm a aisle sitter myself because I get up and walk around often, use the restroom, stretch my legs and trip the cabin crew during meal service (just kidding).
But for you, at least you grabbed that window seat. Good work! I have been in the very back row of planes (in pursuit of an aisle seat) and even that wasn't so terrible imo. |
To answer the original question, I like a window seat because I am pretty tiny and can scrunch up with a pillow and blanket against the wall/window of the aircraft and at least pretend to sleep for a bit during the flight.
But I do admit that the last two flights I took, when I had an aisle seat, I really liked being able to get up and stretch a few times during the flight without disturbing anyone. As for e.g. and i.e. - they are completely different concepts, and no, i.e., does NOT stand for "in essence." Pfff!! E.g. means "for example." I.e. means "that is." Any editor, like me, would die if the two got confused in a published piece. |
Where2Travel seems to think I was "putting down" other posters when i quoted some usage definitions. I certainly was not trying todo so and I sincerely apologize if my "definitions" made it seem this way. I was just amused by the grammar battle. As for my use of an s in place of a d, they are located next to each other on my keyboard. So I also apologize for typo.
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If it is a short flight, I like the window. For long flights, I like the isle. Bulkhead is great because no one will lean back on you, but that is often where the babies are.
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I always book center isle seats and it usually works out rather well for us. I rarely book DH seat across from mine usually in front a few rows. Seems like most times I do this there is one person on the other end and the middle seat is vacant. I like to get up fequently to stretch or go to the lavatory so I don't like to bother people. DH rarely if ever gets up but he is 6'6" and an isle seat serves him well or at least better than being cramped inside in the middle or by the window.
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I guess I just like the idea of being able to lean up against and possibly even fall asleep against the window -- although I don't think that's going to happen.
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