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victoriainwanderland Jun 11th, 2023 02:28 AM

Best Cognac (alcohol) from France?
 
I will not be visiting the Cognac region while in France next week but if I can I would like to get an excellent XO quality cognac to bring home to family who love it.

Ideally I would like to buy something that is not exported to Australia (ie something we can’t buy at home).

The closest we will get to the Cognac region is Bordeaux before we go on to Toulouse, Avignon, Lyon and Paris.

Can anyone recommend a cognac brand that fits the brief and is available to purchase outside of Cognac? Bonus points if you can point me to a cognac specialty store.

Many thanks in advance!

bilboburgler Jun 11th, 2023 02:41 AM

Not a spirits drinker but you might also like to think about Armagnac as a similar product with a slightly less international feel to it.

victoriainwanderland Jun 11th, 2023 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by bilboburgler (Post 17470606)
Not a spirits drinker but you might also like to think about Armagnac as a similar product with a slightly less international feel to it.

I’m in the same boat as you but the people I’m buying for are uber cognac lovers! I just read that most cognac is exported so I may just have to focus on what is not available in Australia rather than what is not exported, period.

bilboburgler Jun 11th, 2023 03:04 AM

Start with these guys
https://www.cognac-only.com/en/ they have shops in Bordeaux and La Rochelle
but frankly if you want stuff that isn't exported then you need to go to the small producers and they exist only in Cognac not in Bordeaux

Heimdall Jun 11th, 2023 04:26 AM

Apparently 95% (some say 98%) of Cognac is exported, so France may not be the best place to buy it.
https://vinepair.com/articles/95-per...gnac-exported/

kerouac Jun 11th, 2023 10:23 AM

Cognac being one of the most exported items (as noted above), the airport always has a tremendous selection of fine cognacs at duty free.

annhig Jun 11th, 2023 11:26 AM

Courvoisier, Hennessey, Martell, Remy Martin are all top brands which are very reliable and there are different ages and types at different price points. It would be worth looking at how much these would cost at home to be able to judge whether what you are buying might please those you are buying for. OTOH a rare Armagnac might well be a better choice as they might not be so used to it, but are still very likely to enjoy it.

joannyc Jun 11th, 2023 08:20 PM

I went to tastings at Camus, Otard, Remy Martin, and Hennessy while I was in Cognac.

bilboburgler Jun 11th, 2023 11:08 PM

https://www.wineenthusiast.com/cultu...rmagnac-guide/

might be worth a read

This the sales outlet of http://maisonrystdupeyron.com/en/index.php a family that has developed Bordeaux wine shipping interests along with Armagnac production (about 2 hours away down a motorway) who you could at least have a chat with. The store is in the centre of Bordeaux and it would be absurd to find that they didn't speak perfect English.

ekscrunchy Jun 12th, 2023 09:01 AM

I have been to Cognac (with friend in the wine business; we stayed at the chateau of Remy Martin).

I would heed Kerouac's advice...do some reading and buy at the airport duty free. Any major airport in France will have an excellent selection up to the very, very high end. Many Asian (and American) travelers do their buying at these shops. Before the airport, take a look at a large wine shop in any city, and ask some questions if you like. Then you will have more knowledge of what to buy when you leave the EU. And yes, do some looking around in your home country to check prices to you have an idea.....some of the super-upscale Cognacs (in the Baccarat bottles, run over $1,000USD.

lavandula Jun 12th, 2023 02:10 PM

Oddly enough you will find a lot of French cognac in ... Hong Kong! It's a prestige drink there and you will find varieties that are not so readily available in Australia. I bought my father a bottle of Otard a number of years ago now from a neighbourhood shop that stocked alcohol. At that time I did not know the brand and I thought he might get a kick out of it (he did). I have no idea what I paid for it, just know that if you miss the boat in France, if you are flying through HK you might have a second chance! 😉

Lavandula


mjs Jun 12th, 2023 10:54 PM

Consider vintage Armangnac

YankyGal Jun 13th, 2023 02:27 AM

I love the Armagnac idea. I like it better than any Cognac I’ve had, but that’s obviously personal preference. It’s not that easy to find in the US, not sure about Australia.

Have a great trip!

ekscrunchy Jun 13th, 2023 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by YankyGal (Post 17471192)
I love the Armagnac idea. I like it better than any Cognac I’ve had, but that’s obviously personal preference. It’s not that easy to find in the US, not sure about Australia.

Have a great trip!


Lavandula has a good idea; I believe this is true, or was true in the past, but Chinese/HK are the largest cognac consumers outside France. So if you flight stops at one of the large Asian airports, you might buy some there, although I get it that is is more fun to buy in France. What is your departure airport from France?

shelemm Jun 13th, 2023 09:48 AM

The duty free shops at the airport will have all the usual suspects,. IIUC, that's not what you are looking for. As suggested by bilboburgler , since you will be in Bordeaux, Cognac Only should have many bottles normally unavailable in Australia.

kerouac Jun 13th, 2023 10:03 AM

The United States is the country that buys the most cognac. Unfortunately, that country loves racial statistics, and it seems that most cognac is bought by black Americans, However, more white people (whatever they are) are now buying cognac, too. I guess that other racial categories are of no interest.
China is the country that buys the most cognac in value. Unfortunately, in Asia people tend to display their bottles in showcases instead of drinking it. The bottles are brought out only if there is a visit by a higher ranking guest.

Of course, even in France, if you buy a bottle of super expensive cognac, you generally stash it away and never touch it.

People are weird.

lavandula Jun 13th, 2023 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by kerouac (Post 17471295)
The United States is the country that buys the most cognac. Unfortunately, that country loves racial statistics, and it seems that most cognac is bought by black Americans, However, more white people (whatever they are) are now buying cognac, too. I guess that other racial categories are of no interest.
China is the country that buys the most cognac in value. Unfortunately, in Asia people tend to display their bottles in showcases instead of drinking it. The bottles are brought out only if there is a visit by a higher ranking guest.

Of course, even in France, if you buy a bottle of super expensive cognac, you generally stash it away and never touch it.

People are weird.

I understand in China / HK cognac is a big deal at weddings - served in large measures also, not like the nip it is traditionally served in.

Lavandula

kerouac Jun 13th, 2023 06:52 PM

I've been to restaurants in Hong Kong where people (men) were swilling cognac like it was water. Then again, they were mixing it with water.

seamuspie Jun 13th, 2023 06:56 PM

ditch the cognac and the french and get some Irish whisky - Middleton to be specific :):p

janisj Jun 13th, 2023 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by seamuspie (Post 17471395)
ditch the cognac and the french and get some Irish whisky - Middleton to be specific :):p


Ahem . . . Middleton is whiskey (as are all Irish brands) . . . it's Scotland that produces sans e whisky ;)


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