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Sassafrass Oct 14th, 2016 06:27 AM

I dislike all things Disney, think it is a huge waste of time when you have all of Paris to see and would not do it myself. However, a recent experience makes me say go ahead and do it for a day. My Granddaughter is right in between your kids, age wise and her Aunt took her a couple of weeks ago to WDW, Florida. She had an incredible time, is convinced the Princesses do exist since she saw them live and talked with them and saw the "real" castles where they live. Now that she thinks it is a real world, she wants to live there. That is magic. So what if it is frivolous? Your kids will remember it, they are a perfect age for it, and even more important, "your wife has her heart set on it." The last, alone, is reason enough to do it.

janisj Oct 14th, 2016 06:37 AM

Some 'get' Disney, some don't. One person's Disney dislike is no reason to demean someone else wanting to go there. I see nothing wrong w/ visiting Disneyland Paris w/ a family. Since you will already be there it is a heck of a lot cheaper than planning a trip to the States do see it.

BUT I would not do DL Paris <u>unless</u> one was staying at least 5, 6 or more days in Paris - not counting arrival day since that will essentially be 1/2 a day. That would give you 4 or more full days to see some of the major sites in Paris (not all by any means - not really enough time for Versailles for example) - and give you one day for Disney fun.

It is an easy RER ride from central Paris.

MonicaRichards Oct 14th, 2016 07:52 AM

I am not a Disney fan but if I were coming from Australia and my wife and kids wanted to go to Disneyland Paris I would darn well go to Disneyland Paris! The vacation is for everyone, so throw the kids a bone and take them where they really want to go. I'm sure it will be fun and a good break from history/nature and whatall.

Ackislander Oct 14th, 2016 08:01 AM

Just to explain a point above, to Americans, "bamboozled" means cheated, not "confused," which is what I think you mean!

StCirq Oct 14th, 2016 09:45 AM

Yes, I've been confused about "bamboozled" from the start and kept looking for the place where the OP was cheated.

atgyf Oct 14th, 2016 11:05 AM

Where do you need to go in Wales?

Tulips Oct 14th, 2016 12:34 PM

Went to Disney Paris for a day with my teenage kids last December - they still loved it. Don't skip it, even if you have only a few days in Paris. Especially if they have never had a chance to visit a Disney park.

If you are going to the Netherlands, then visit the Efteling. Not as familiar to the kids as Disney, but a really great theme park, with beautiful gardens.

schnauzer Oct 14th, 2016 02:00 PM

Yes, Aussies tend to use bamboozled as confused..righty or wrongly, we just do.

kerouac Oct 14th, 2016 02:52 PM

EuropaPark in Germany (but near Strasbourg) is an even stranger experience, from what I've read.

Gretchen Oct 14th, 2016 04:41 PM

Actually, until right now--I read it as confused, but now do agree that in the US it means "cheated".
But I took it at first reading from OP as "confused".

jubilada Oct 14th, 2016 04:46 PM

I am from the US and I thought it meant confused. Regional?

janisj Oct 14th, 2016 05:11 PM

>>I am from the US and I thought it meant confused. Regional?<<

I have no idea if there are regional differences -- but I have always thought bamboozled meant cheated/scammed. Definitely not 'confused'.

I didn't really pay it any mind from the thread title though -- just thought he was using it as an attention getter.

MonicaRichards Oct 14th, 2016 08:30 PM

From California here and assumed Bamboozled meant confused. Not a common word and I don't think i have ever heard anyone use it to mean swindled.

nukesafe Oct 14th, 2016 08:39 PM

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bamboozle

kerouac Oct 14th, 2016 08:58 PM

I understood swindled, but it appears that everybody is right.

janisj Oct 14th, 2016 09:27 PM

nukesafe's link seems to have solved the issue. Apparently it means to swindle, or to confuse someone -- nefariously.

So not simply 'at sea' but misled on purpose . . .




(>>From California here and assumed Bamboozled meant confused<<

I'm from CA too and have only ever heard it used as cheated)

justineparis Oct 14th, 2016 10:22 PM

I thought it meant swindled or conned.. but hey..its all good .

utedog Oct 16th, 2016 08:24 AM

Hi All. Thanks for the ongoing feedback. I’ve been off the grid for a couple of days so just getting back to this. I’ve read everyone’s comments – thank you all.

Just quickly (since the hour is late over here) – the Wales trip is to South Wales, specifically to a place near Pontypool, and I figured I’d just continue out along the south coast a bit or maybe a trip through Brecon Beacons. Trip to Scotland is not really my choice since it’s in conjunction with other family members who wish to holiday there but I will try and negotiate on this to an extent. We are staying with them at their place in Reading when in London then travelling with them to Scotland.

Indeed - I used the word ‘bamboozled’ in the Aussie context which is to be confused. No idea it meant something else to North Americans. I see it has expanded a few people’s knowledge in the process - not just mine! http://www.slang-dictionary.org/Aust...lang/Bamboozle

I understand there are plenty of views on Disneyland, but that’s what’s important to the wife, so that’s what she shall get.

Sue81 Oct 25th, 2016 06:33 PM

my suggestions is ditch the motor home to avoid real misery. Ditch Disneyland and give you children some real history. Do Buckingham Palace/Tower of London esp the Crown Jewels (go early AM), great museums/etc. Do trains/second class, discount for kids or free in Switzerland. Book reasonable hotels in towns that you wish to visit over Internet. Choose some smaller towns/villages for lower cost and relax. Mix larger cities with a couple smaller villages. Sue

janisj Oct 25th, 2016 08:41 PM

>>Ditch Disneyland and give you children some real history. Do Buckingham Palace/Tower of London esp the Crown Jewels (go early AM)<<

DisneyLand is a <B>must</B> for the OP's wife so give it a rest already. Plus there is plenty of time for 'real history' at the Tower of London AND fantasy at Disneyland Paris

(Buckingham Palace is a non-issue since it is not open to the public when the OP is visiting . . . )


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