any route changes?
 

just wondering if anyone has any tips, places to visit or extra destinations i could add to a route of:

amsterdam
cologne
munich
innsbruck
Ljubljana
zadar
zagreb
budapest
bratislava
vienna
prague
krakow

How long are you allowing for this tour of Europe?

How are you travelling?

What time of year?

You could add hundreds of places, obviously, but yes, we need to know the answers to annhig's questions above.

Yes time and mode of travel are important -offhand I'd say since you are going largely to large cities trains would be the best along with perhaps some cheap flights.

You would need at least a month as now to do that itinerary.

How long are you allowing for this tour of Europe? Just over a month

How are you travelling? Train, plane and the odd bus

What time of year? August

thanks, Kav.

that means that you have roughly 30 days for 12 places, or 2 ½ days in each, which allowing for an average of ½ a day to get from place to place comes down to 2 - and in the heat of August too.

What it comes down to is that, as I expected, [which is why I asked those Qs] you really don't have enough time to do it all and have some fun as well.

I would suggest picking 6 places that you most want to see and concentrate on them. You might add in the odd day trip or overnight in between your main places but 6 main stops is the max that I would try to fit into that timescale.

thanks, that is just a rough guideline currently, just making sure we are not missing out on any hidden gems out there!

How are you travelling? Train, plane and the odd bus>

Lots of good info on trains:
www.bahn.de/en - easy to access rail schedules for all European trains;
www.seat61.com; www.budgeteuropetravel.com; www.ricksteves.com.

How old are you? If under 26 look at some kind of Eurail Youthpass or if over some kind of regular Eurailpass if you hit half of those places.

all 3 of us will be 22, looking at a 7 days in a month europass, struggling getting to zadar and krakow fast and cheap

Zadar is not a place I'm familiar with but your route seems a little weird here - you can get from Ljubljana to Zagreb [or vice versa] on a train in about 2 hours and then it's another 3 hours by road to Zadar. What is the attraction of Zadar? There are what look like other coastal resorts closer to both Ljubljana and Zagreb - Krk for example.

They are all a long way to go to only spend a couple of days there. Krk is on an island where you could probably spend several days enjoying a relaxing time on the beach.

not to sure on why zadar, a friend has been there and wants to return. we can fly to warsaw from zadar complete the trip as follows
warsaw - krakow - prague - vienna - budapest

miss out on zagreb but shortens the journeys

not to sure on why zadar, a friend has been there and wants to return. we can fly to warsaw from zadar complete the trip as follows
warsaw - krakow - prague - vienna - budapest>>

but then you have to get to Warsaw, and it's not really anywhere near the other places you say you want to visit.

I suggest a different approach - get a guide book or 6, particularly the Rough Guide and LonelyPlanet guides, think about what really interests you all, and look at what they suggest for 30 day itineraries.