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We, US citizens, were living in the Netherlands in 1986 and we traveled to France, by train, that year. We didn't get or need a visa.
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No one has ever asked to see my husband's ESTA, but they ask before he boards in Europe whether he has one. I assume US immigration doesn't need to see it; they scan his passport and it would probably be flagged if he didn't have one. Just in case, he printed it and carries it with you is passport. |
Originally Posted by bvlenci
(Post 16884888)
No one has ever asked to see my husband's ESTA, but they ask before he boards in Europe whether he has one. I assume US immigration doesn't need to see it; they scan his passport and it would probably be flagged if he didn't have one. Just in case, he printed it and carries it with you is passport.
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Odin, I believe that's exactly what I said.
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Here's an article in the New York Times that explains the process and makes it clear that this is not a visa. As I expected, it can be obtained easily and quickly online. Just don't forget to do it before your trip!
When the US first instituted the ESTA in 2010, we knew about it but totally forgot to get it for my husband before our next trip to the US. At the airport in Ancona, they asked if my husband had it and we slapped our foreheads. That small airport had no computers we could use, and we didn't have data services on our phones. The desk agent didn't want us to board the plane, which was making a connection in Rome. I talked her into letting us try to find a computer in the Rome airport. Reluctantly, she let us board. In Rome, the only computer they had was a strange contraption that looked like a public telephone, on a column. It was painfully slow and had an old teletype printer. Still, I managed to register my husband and printed out the confirmation. (I didn't realize at the time that he didn't need to show it to immigration in New York.) We made our flight by the skin of our teeth. My husband always carries his ESTA confirmation with his passport, just in case. We've renewed it several times since then. |
Here is an article in the New York Times, which explains the process well, and makes clear that this is not a visa.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/09/t...er=rss&emc=rss When the US first instituted the equivalent ESTA in 2010, we knew about it but forgot to register my husband before our next trip to the US. At our local airport, when the desk agent asked my husband if he had the ESTA, we slapped our foreheads. That small airport had no computer we could use, and we didn't have data services on our phone. They didn't want to let us board, but I talked them into allowing us to go as far as Rome so we could try to find a computer in the airport there. At Fiumicino, there was a computer, a strange contraption on a column that looked like a public phone. It was painfully slow, but I managed to register my husband and print out the confirmation on the incorporated teletype printer. (I didn't realize at the time that he didn't have to show it to immigration in New York.) We made our flight by the skin of our teeth. My husband carries the confirmation with his passport, just in case there's a problem. |
Originally Posted by Odin
(Post 16884202)
It's lucky anyone got a visa as a lot of countries do not allow or additional documentation is needed for visa applications outside their own country of residence. Wouldn't advise leaving it until getting to the UK to start applying for a French visa nowadays.
Unless you could visit the French embassy in DC, getting the visa in London was actually the safer method. The alternative was to mail away your actual passport to the French embassy. The study abroad program warned us that if we didn't get out passport back in time, we would have to pay individually for a later flight to London. Most American students took the ferry/train when going to the continent from Great Britain. Flying was not cheap like now. The bulk of American students visiting the continent would have to go through France. Turning back lines of students who just crossed the Channel would not look great. But again, it was a different time. |
actually its not a visa -the headling is wrong -.Its instead of a visa just like the ESTA we all have to get to enter US. Its instead of a visa.
USA is one of the 60 nations this applies too-Australia and New Zealand being 2 of th eothers. |
I keep seeing newspaper articles that call it a visa. I said above myself that it's not a visa, but the misunderstanding keeps getting perpetuated.
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It seems to be more like a "registration." But yes, I keep seeing it referred to as a "visa." Since it can be done easily & quickly online it seems that it should not be a problem for most. The problem will be all the people who don't know about it in 2021. Although it's getting so much press now, hard to imagine it wouldnt be a big deal before it starts in 2021.
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Originally Posted by bvlenci
(Post 16884878)
We, US citizens, were living in the Netherlands in 1986 and we traveled to France, by train, that year. We didn't get or need a visa.
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