Fodor's Travel Talk Forums

Fodor's Travel Talk Forums (https://www.fodors.com/community/)
-   Europe (https://www.fodors.com/community/europe/)
-   -   A serious rat problem in Paris. (https://www.fodors.com/community/europe/a-serious-rat-problem-in-paris-1647230/)

quokka Jan 23rd, 2018 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by travelgourmet (Post 16658238)
I believe any city in Alberta qualifies.

Sure? Better not look too close...
Rats are distributed all over the globe, with the sole exception of the northernmost arctic regions and Antarctica.

PalenQ Jan 23rd, 2018 01:35 PM

Washington DC has a rat problem too.

NYCFoodSnob Jan 23rd, 2018 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by StCirq (Post 16658129)
This isn't anything new.

It was new to me.


Originally Posted by Macross (Post 16658100)
Egads, but NYC has a huge problem also.

In my 30+ years in NYC, I've never seen anything like this. On my way to Notre Dame, Pont Louis Philippe was covered with rats, scurrying from one side to the other. There were so many, you could barely see any street. From a distance, it looked like the surface of the street was moving. When I finally realized what I was seeing, I thought I was caught on a Paul Thomas Anderson film set, and he was shooting another version of Magnolia. Wild.

I feel sorry for grocery stores and food vendors. Those rats get everywhere. A serious health hazard.

Btw, rats don't scare me. We dissected them in high school biology class. Still, I'd prefer they not take over a favorite city.

xcountry Jan 23rd, 2018 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by PalenQ (Post 16658254)
Washington DC has a rat problem too.

Something for Macron and Trump to discuss. I bet Trump’s rats are bigger.

quokka Jan 23rd, 2018 02:50 PM

I saw a dead rat in the street two minutes from my house yesterday. If they are stupid enough to let themselves be run over by cars, there must be a serious over-population.
This is an average quarter in a perfectly normal mid-size German city, by the way. No dump or dirthole.

They are everywhere.

NewbE Jan 23rd, 2018 07:53 PM

I bet the reason no one is mentioning London in this admittedly unscientific roundup is the rise of urban foxes there. Humans create imbalances in nature, and then complain about the consequences.

Nonconformist Jan 23rd, 2018 10:41 PM

Sometimes it's hard to get rid of them: https://www.atlasobscura.com/article...-massacre-1902

ribeirasacra Jan 23rd, 2018 11:35 PM

Hunting of rats on a TV programme called Engrenages (Sprial). Wikipedia IMBd is much better than the hunting of rats on NICS or CSI.
If you have missed it you can find the back catalogue online.;)

LancasterLad Jan 24th, 2018 01:06 AM

Worked in Paris for 4 years in the 1990s, and lived just outside in Le Vesinet.

Can't recall ever seeing a rat.....just lots of dog muck everywhere...

https://www.frenchasyoulikeit.com/ex...dogs-in-paris/

Yukkie.

fourfortravel Jan 24th, 2018 01:27 AM

Vienna has rats, too. In fact, there is even a "Rat"haus for them. :toj:

My teen daughter and I spent a week in NYC in a not-too-distant February, along with her Slovenian BFF (first time to the US). BFF was "thrilled" to see a rat while we were waiting for a subway; it was something she could check off her NYC list. Not kidding.

kerouac Jan 24th, 2018 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by NYCFoodSnob (Post 16658290)
It was new to me.


In my 30+ years in NYC, I've never seen anything like this. On my way to Notre Dame, Pont Louis Philippe was covered with rats, scurrying from one side to the other. There were so many, you could barely see any street. From a distance, it looked like the surface of the street was moving. When I finally realized what I was seeing, I thought I was caught on a Paul Thomas Anderson film set, and he was shooting another version of Magnolia. Wild.

I feel sorry for grocery stores and food vendors. Those rats get everywhere. A serious health hazard.

Btw, rats don't scare me. We dissected them in high school biology class. Still, I'd prefer they not take over a favorite city.

I have seen very few rats over the years and almost always only if I am out past 1 a.m. which is rather rare for me these days. However, a friend of mine did report seeing one of those rat swarms next to the Tour Saint Jacques last summer.

Pepper_von_snoot Jan 24th, 2018 03:44 AM

I don't know if any of you geezers have read Elizabeth Kolbert's Pulitzer Prize winning book The Sixth Extinction, but in it one of the world's top scientists is quoted as saying that when man dies off rats will take over the world.

So, start thinking of Planet of the Rats, not Planet of the Apes.

Anybody remember the films Willard and Ben??

Thin

travelgourmet Jan 24th, 2018 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by quokka (Post 16658251)
Sure? Better not look too close...
Rats are distributed all over the globe, with the sole exception of the northernmost arctic regions and Antarctica.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle27504057/

For all intents and purposes, Alberta is rat-free.

marvelousmouse Jan 24th, 2018 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by travelgourmet (Post 16658684)
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle27504057/

For all intents and purposes, Alberta is rat-free.

I’m pretty sure there are Alberta rats that are laughing in a bar somewhere. They’ve no doubt evolved and become better at hiding, ala the fantastic mr. Fox.

I’ve seen rats in the NYC subway. They’re usually out of sight, though. If I saw a swarm in Paris, I’d probably run screaming. Roommate in college had pet rats. I don’t even like them domesticated and bathed.

NYCFoodSnob Jan 24th, 2018 03:22 PM

Looks like the River Seine is up to its bridges, breaking a few burst records. This BBC article mentions that the water is flooding rat nests. I guess that explains the swarms running for their lives.

In pictures: River Seine bursts banks in Paris - BBC News

allisonm Jan 24th, 2018 05:11 PM

A couple of years ago DH and I were exiting a subway in NYC when some lady started pointing at DH’s foot. There was a small rodent clinging to the cuff of his jeans. At the time I assumed it was a mouse, which was bad enough. But now, I am thinking it could have been a baby rat, which somehow just seems so much worse...

crefloors Jan 24th, 2018 07:00 PM

The first thing I thought of was Ratatouille when I was this thread. LOL Thankfully, my friend and I didn't see any when we were in Paris in October. Rats are every where and they are survivors. All you can do is beat them back as best you can.
It's not just cities either. My brother lives out in the countryside and stopped feeding the birds when he watched the rat parade to the feeder one evening. As stated, they are everywhere.

travelgourmet Jan 25th, 2018 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by marvelousmouse (Post 16658730)
I’m pretty sure there are Alberta rats that are laughing in a bar somewhere. They’ve no doubt evolved and become better at hiding, ala the fantastic mr. Fox.

If they are hiding so well that they aren’t seen, I think we can all agree that Alberta does a better job than Paris.

And that is the point: Paris has a rat problem. By many accounts, it is a quite significant one. Authorities can either hide behind “every city has rats” (which probably isn’t true) or they can look to how Calgary and Edmonton attack the problem. I know which I’d choose.

xcountry Jan 25th, 2018 05:13 AM

Things I learned on Fodors:

Slow down!
JET LAG Jet Lag jet lag zzzzzzz ... don’t drive.
Rats are everywhere - shrug.

kerouac Jan 25th, 2018 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by travelgourmet (Post 16659490)
And that is the point: Paris has a rat problem. By many accounts, it is a quite significant one. Authorities can either hide behind “every city has rats” (which probably isn’t true) or they can look to how Calgary and Edmonton attack the problem. I know which I’d choose.

The biggest problem that Paris has is that as the most visited city in the world and people will jump on any excuse to trash it in the media, while often ignoring that the problem in the own place of residence is just as bad or worse.

How many times have we read "is it safe to go to Paris?" from people living in cities with ten or twenty times the crime rate.

Does Paris have rats? Yes, it does, just like everywhere else. Are they jumping into people's laps in the restaurants? Has anyone been bitten on the Eiffel Tower yet? Have any babies had their faces chewed off in their cribs? I've read about things like this in other places, but it never made a huge splash in the news.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:32 PM.