A Danish ain't a danish?
 

Ok, so now I've learned that a Danish ain't a Danish. On our recent Scandinavia tour, I looked forward to having a Danish in Denmark. Well, not sure why, buy didn't happen. Then in Sweden, I saw a danish in a bakery, and the sign said "Wienbord" or something like that. I asked the guy, doesn't Wien stand for Vienna. He said of course. The Danish is actually a pastry stolen from Vienna.
No way, says I.
Oh, yes, says he, as he handed me the danish-not.
It tasted like a danish should, even better than stateside (well it should). But I want to ask The Fodor wisdom, is a danish not a danish?
Say it aint so,.......

Along those same lines--is a person from Hamburg called a Hamburger? :-?

There's no such type as "Swiss Cheese" in Switzerland.

Why do they call it "Filet American" when it's nothing more than raw ground beef with an egg and some spices?

Is a thief from Hamburg called a Hamburgler? :-O

That's why those baked goods are also called viennoiserie. You're correct they're called Viennese bread in Scandiavian countries. In Vienna, they're called Copenhagen bread. Go figure. Oh, and I heard some Arab countries tried to call Mohammad's Rose or something like that during the whole prophet cartoon incident. (Remember freedom fries?)...

My goodness, we haven't progressed much from that "Ich bin ein Berliner" statement, have we?

I love veal Milanese. But alas, it's really Weiner Schnitzel, stolen from Vienna during the Hapsburg reign in Northern Italy.

And in Italy what we call Venetian blinds are called Turkish shades.

And in New York there is no such thing as a New York steak - I'm not even sure what it is - porterhouse? sirloin?

Years ago I always thought a New York strip steak was a sirloin off the bone. But a Kansas City strip steak was the same sirloin with the bone still attached.
But these things vary.

By the way, there is a "New York strip steak" on the menu at the following in New York: (and I'm sure there are others). It seems the term applies in New York as much as anywhere.

Ruth's Chris
Michael Jordan's
Keens
Angelo and Maxie's
BLT Steak
Craftsteak
Nick and Stef's
The Palm

Why is the entree a main course in the USA?

Now that's a really good question! Because it leads up to the "main" event -- the dessert?

Next time in Europe start in Switzerland and try to hunt down the popular skinny sausage called Wienerli (the one they use in hot dogs, not the short fat Cervelat).

In Wien-Vienna they call it, I think, Frankfurterli, in Frankfurt it's the Berliner, after that I lost track, but the "blame the other city" spiel goes on and on.

And what Americans call Swiss cheese is the Emmental variety, as opposed to the other major Swiss varieties like Gruyères/Greyerzer and Appenzeller and Tilsiter (oddly enough named after the city Tilsit near Kaliningrad and tasting vastly differently from the cheese made near the real Tilsit).

So why is a condom called a French letter when the French called it capote anglaise?

And French Toast (together with Belgian Waffles the only justification for the I in IHOP) is nowhere to be seen in France, just as there never was a Spanish Fly in Spain, and the Dutch never said they gained courage when drunk. At least there are indeed waffles in Belgium - the last outpost of sanity it seems...

The croissant was invented by Austrians, and spaghetti by the Chinese.

German cockroaches are called French cockroaches in Germany.

Spaghetti-like pasta MAY have been made first in China. Chinese cutlure is amazing. However, spaghetti-like pasta was first made in EUROPE in Sicily, which was influenced by Arab culture, including it foods. From Sicily it spread to central and northern Italy, and from there to other parts of Europe.

But back to the Danish. Many Viennese pastries were really Hungarian, and many Hungarian pastries really came from the Turkish cuklinary traditions.

Update on spaghetti and China:

http://www.discover.com/web-exclusiv...historic-pasta

Wow, I've heard of 100 year eggs, but 4000 year spaghetti? I bet Olive Garden would still cook that stuff into mush.

What is an English Muffin ? (I'm English)

A mule.

What I read was that the Danish bakers, some long time ago, went on strike. The Viennese bakers were brought in as scabs, and introduced wienerbrød to Denmark.

People from Hamburg are definitely Hamburgers, but you are only a true Hamburger if your grandparents were born there.

People from Frankfurt are also Franfurters.

However, children from Brussels are not Brussel Sprouts.

:)

Are people from Crete, Cretins?
And people from Malta maltesers?

;-)

Muck

And "freedom fries" was really unnecessary because US English French fries originate from Belgium.

I my speech "Danish" is viineri. Stem is Wien.

Maltesers: yummy chocolate balls filled with a light filling. You can buy them in the candy / sweet aisle at any grocery store.

Hi

I think the danish that you are talking about is called "winerbrød" here in Norway. According to Wikipedia "In the Scandinavian countries (including Denmark) it is called wienerbrød or wienerbröd (Viennese bread) after the itinerant Viennese bakers who brought their pastry skills to Scandinavia."
and
"In Wien (Vienna) it is called "Kopenhagener Gebäck" which means "Copenhagen bread"."

But it doesn't matter what it is called as long as you enjoy it :d

Regards
Gard
http://gardkarlsen.com - trip reports and pictures

What you call an English Muffin bears no resemblence to a muffin that we English eat.

In fact I don't think we've got a word for those little cakes.

I like the fact that they're made by Otis Spunkmeyer though. That's funny.

Budman : "Why do they call it "Filet American" when it's nothing more than raw ground beef with an egg and some spices?" Do they ? (Who ? :-) ) Sounds like what we call steak tartare.

There are no virgins in the Virgin Islands.

So what are people from Wank in Austria called?

Geordie

Austrians

Geordie

What about people from here....?

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genIn...ocIndex=267574

caroline_edinburgh, in Belgium. ((b))

Gosh really ? How interesting !

English muffins = crumpets
French toast = pain perdu (or what we call eggy bread)

The Americans have something called London broil.
I'm sure that no Londoner has ever heard of it.

Also, creme brulee originated at Trinity College Cambridge.

Fish and chips are supposed to be a sort of Marks and Spencer thing.
In London, Jews sold fried fish and Belgians sold fried potatoes. A Jew and a Belgian suddenly had a brainwave and Robert is your proverbial

So what do they call what we call muffins?

And when we had parties in Holland where everyone brought something, it was called an American party. NOT going Dutch!

And yes, in Belgium filet americain is raw finely ground beef.

In Australia, English muffins are English-English muffins and crumpets are English crumpet-crumpets.

However, the American version of the crumpet is rather dry and not as tasty!

Liz
ozmum.com

Syphillis in Paris: "English Pox"

Syphillis in London: "French Pox"

and unfortunately for some it doesn't seem to have changed much over time.

Has anyone ever found an English muffin in England?