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bilboburgler Sep 7th, 2022 02:27 AM

Kinderdijk centre advice

I was there in June. Access to the place is free but the boat trips and some of the windmills are open by paid ticket.
Food looked good and loos are really clean and free (which is pretty normal)
The main walking area is a shared cycle path so keep your wits about you especially when taking photos
Opposite the main shopping area there are also street food vendors.

marlene_ Sep 7th, 2022 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by menachem (Post 17397528)
Depends on your luggage I suppose. If it's bulky and heavy storing it at Schiphol is the right idea. However, can't you go to the hotel, store your luggage and then take the bus from Haarlem to Keukenhof? The #300 fast buses from Schiphol will get you to Haarlem Station. From there you can also take a bus to Keukenhof. (the 850 Arriva Keukenhof Express)

Menachem, that might be the better way to go. Thanks for the suggestion. After reading about the luggage horrors at Schiphol, we intend to each travel with just a carry-on and backpack...which will be a first for me. I always over pack! So we should be okay taking the #300 bus with just that, right?

marlene_ Sep 7th, 2022 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by menachem (Post 17397530)
Kinderdijk is far, far better. It's got a new visitor's centre with a lovely terrace and view across the Molenvliet, and it's so special to see an entire array of mills. Many people are surprised to learn that they're still used to regulate the water level in the Middenwaard polder on occasions when the (now electrified) pumping works can't cope.

I forgot to mention that in Haarlem, Teylers Museum is a must see imo. https://www.teylersmuseum.nl/nl

Menachem, I've read somewhere that there is a way to get to Kinderdijk by boat from Rotterdam. Do you have any knowledge about that? Would it be running in April?


marlene_ Sep 7th, 2022 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by Paqngo (Post 17396115)
Take your last day and stay in Haarlem. Here are some things you could do https://www.planetware.com/tourist-a...-nl-nh-har.htm

Paqngo...thanks for the link!

menachem Sep 9th, 2022 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by marlene_ (Post 17397807)
Menachem, that might be the better way to go. Thanks for the suggestion. After reading about the luggage horrors at Schiphol, we intend to each travel with just a carry-on and backpack...which will be a first for me. I always over pack! So we should be okay taking the #300 bus with just that, right?

Yes totally. They're large bendy buses with a luggage area, wifi and usb ports :)

menachem Sep 9th, 2022 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by marlene_ (Post 17397810)
Menachem, I've read somewhere that there is a way to get to Kinderdijk by boat from Rotterdam. Do you have any knowledge about that? Would it be running in April?

You can take the regular Waterbus from Rotterdam Erasmusbrug (you can get there by metro from Rotterdam centraal, stop Leuvenhaven, or walk there from Centraal)
You need the #20 to Dordrecht: get off at the Ridderkerk De Schans stop and take the little Driehoeksveer to Kinderdijk
You can buy a Waterbus ticket ahead of time, but OV chipkaart also works, Driehoeksveer you can pay by card or cash on board.

That's it. It's full on travel, but you get to travel a good distance up river. It's a quintessential Dutch landscape with shipyards, a lot of river traffic, always interesting. Dordrecht is also worth a visit: the City where both the Dutch state and a standard Dutch language came into being. Arriving at Dordrecht from the Noord river gives you a view essentially unchanged since the 17th century.

https://www.waterbus.nl/en/destinati...oed-kinderdijk

menachem Sep 9th, 2022 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by bilboburgler (Post 17397541)
Kinderdijk centre advice

I was there in June. Access to the place is free but the boat trips and some of the windmills are open by paid ticket.
Food looked good and loos are really clean and free (which is pretty normal)
The main walking area is a shared cycle path so keep your wits about you especially when taking photos
Opposite the main shopping area there are also street food vendors.

My advice would be to walk a little further and keep left for the Overwaardpad: crowds are fewer, the mill array is even more beautiful than closer to the visitor's centre, and there are a couple of very nice benches in good spots and some picknick tables. Worth the walk, I think.
April is still pea soup month: they make their own, in the visitor's centre and it's pretty good. I go there a lot because it's a coffeestop on one of my cycling rounds.

marlene_ Sep 12th, 2022 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by menachem (Post 17398262)
Yes totally. They're large bendy buses with a luggage area, wifi and usb ports :)

Thanks!

marlene_ Sep 12th, 2022 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by menachem (Post 17398265)
You can take the regular Waterbus from Rotterdam Erasmusbrug (you can get there by metro from Rotterdam centraal, stop Leuvenhaven, or walk there from Centraal)
You need the #20 to Dordrecht: get off at the Ridderkerk De Schans stop and take the little Driehoeksveer to Kinderdijk
You can buy a Waterbus ticket ahead of time, but OV chipkaart also works, Driehoeksveer you can pay by card or cash on board.

That's it. It's full on travel, but you get to travel a good distance up river. It's a quintessential Dutch landscape with shipyards, a lot of river traffic, always interesting. Dordrecht is also worth a visit: the City where both the Dutch state and a standard Dutch language came into being. Arriving at Dordrecht from the Noord river gives you a view essentially unchanged since the 17th century.

https://www.waterbus.nl/en/destinati...oed-kinderdijk

This is so helpful! Thank you!

marlene_ Sep 12th, 2022 04:05 AM


Originally Posted by menachem (Post 17398267)
My advice would be to walk a little further and keep left for the Overwaardpad: crowds are fewer, the mill array is even more beautiful than closer to the visitor's centre, and there are a couple of very nice benches in good spots and some picknick tables. Worth the walk, I think.
April is still pea soup month: they make their own, in the visitor's centre and it's pretty good. I go there a lot because it's a coffeestop on one of my cycling rounds.

When I read your comment on split pea soup, at first I thought you were talking about the weather! 😂
Thanks for the tip!

VANAARLE Sep 12th, 2022 08:18 AM

Please do not ask for split pea soup. The dutch say Erwtensoep (pronounced by an native English speaker as: Air-ten-soup) https://forvo.com/word/erwtensoep/Some times also called Snert. April maybe too late to find it in restaurants.
It is not for vegetarians or vegans.

Heerlijk

menachem Sep 15th, 2022 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by VANAARLE (Post 17398982)
Please do not ask for split pea soup. The dutch say Erwtensoep (pronounced by an native English speaker as: Air-ten-soup) https://forvo.com/word/erwtensoep/Some times also called Snert. April maybe too late to find it in restaurants.
It is not for vegetarians or vegans.

Heerlijk

they have it on their slate as "split pea soup", so don't worry. Kinderdijk is completely geared to international river cruise travellers

VANAARLE Sep 15th, 2022 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by menachem (Post 17399787)
they have it on their slate as "split pea soup", so don't worry. Kinderdijk is completely geared to international river cruise travellers

Sorry I forgot you are recommending eating in a real tourist trap café. ;)
I doubt if the other establishments in the area will be any better.

menachem Sep 17th, 2022 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by VANAARLE (Post 17399826)
Sorry I forgot you are recommending eating in a real tourist trap café. ;)
I doubt if the other establishments in the area will be any better.

There are none. Maybe a word to the wise: the visitor centre is the only place now. There used to be a regular place just around the corner, but it wasn't able to stay open during corona, and now it's closed.
I've been stopping at that place when it was still a green shed with a counter, some chairs and tables and some souvenir stuff they sold. There was a lot of opposition locally to the ugly glass box they put over the Molenvliet (beautiful view from the terrace though), but river cruisers must be accommodated I guess. There's more upgrading in the works and it won't make the place more beautiful I'm afraid.


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