Annoyance about Carnival
 

I booked a cruise last May for a departure date in Feb. 2003 for a 4 day cruise. We were supposed to stop in Key West and then go on to Cozumel. After looking on the internet today I noticed the stop was cancelled in Key West (and we love Key West)and now we were only make a stop to one port which is Cozumel. I feel we should have been notified of the itinerary change. Well I cancelled this cruise and am now booked with RCCL with a stop in Key West and onto Cozumel.

You are putting too much faith in the internet.<BR><BR>I know of passengers that are cruising Feb. 3, 10, 17 and 24 of 2003 on the Fascination and Key West has not been cancelled.<BR><BR>Paul

Paul, are you saying xxx ([email protected]) is not telling the truth, or worse yet, too stupid to properly read the internet?<BR>

No, Peter, Paul did not say this.... you did!

According to my information the Fascination is still stopping at Key West.

If this is true, why would they drop Key West in their itinerary?

I didnt say Fascination. It was the Sensation that cancelled Key West and I called them up to verify it. And it was cancelled.

Another good example of Pauls mis-information. Please bookmark this for future reference.<BR><BR>Now we'll get a 3:00 am posting from him explanining that he really meant this or that or if all else fails that he's sorry, sorry, sorry for letting the entire cruise industry down or some other smart a** remark.

Oh, Oh, the Peter Police is after me again.<BR><BR>I presumed (look up the word "presume" in the dictionary Peter) that it was the Fascination since that ship has the only 4 day itinerary that ports at Key West. I read PRINTED matter (look up printed in the dictionary Peter). The Sensation after sailing many years out of Tampa on a seven day western Caribbean irtinerary is changing its itinerary to a 4 and 5 day cruise out of Tampa in December. These 4 and 5 day cruises never had Key West PRINTED as a port and xxxs' post put me in the twilight zone.<BR><BR>I "presume" the internet is or was incorrect. It is one place I do not go for many reasons.<BR><BR>Now, Peter, you could pick me apart again with your usual biting manner, but in the future will you please, with your limited cruise ability, research before you post. And don't be so naughty.<BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>

Hey Paul it's time you were told. P.A.P. Stands for: "People Against Paul". Bunch of us are just sick and tired or your inaccuracies, half truths, feeble attempts at sarcasm, and self promotions.<BR><BR>And no we do not subscribe to Peter's methodology, but we do believe you should get your own web site, and that Fodor's should have registration.<BR><BR>Until you get a web site or they have registration you will have to deal with us in one form or another.

"The Sensation after sailing many years out of Tampa on a seven day western Caribbean irtinerary is changing its itinerary to a 4 and 5 day cruise out of Tampa in December."<BR><BR>Peter,<BR><BR> I hope it does this sooner. I am booked 9-30-02 for a 5 day to Grand Cayman and Cozumel!!

Yes, Mark, I know the Sensation sails its 4 and 5 day Western itineraries out of Tampa starting in early September. The problem is that Paul doesn't, didn't and is trying to cover his a** over his original post. He tries everything and anything from poking back to outright lying - anything to keep his image untarnished.<BR><BR>I may be rude and crude, but if I made one tenth the inaccurate statements Paul makes, I'd shoot myself. But, Paul, I DO my research before I post.

Who is this Paul person anyway? He seems to try to make himself out as some sort of authority.

I spend most of my time over on CruiseCritic but come over here occasionally when I have extra time. We see Peter over there once in a great while and he's just as crass.<BR><BR>I do think he's "rude and crude" but he's right; Paul is very often inaccurate and surely is in this case. About every time I come over to this board; about twice a month, I see posts by Paul that make factual statements that are out and out wrong.<BR><BR>Peter is a disgrace to constructive critisizm but Paul is a disgrace to this board. People come here for help and he takes his biased views and posts them as fact.<BR><BR>No, I am not part of this P.A.P. group. I have well over 150 posts on CruiseCritic and don't make it a habit to bash anyone. I try to help and sometimes seek help myself. The last place I'd come for real help is Fodors. This place is beginning to be a joke.

To Paul<BR><BR>I did not get my misinformation on the internet. I got it directly from the Carnival Cruise book. When I booked the cruise it said Key West in the 2003 catalog. When I cross referenced on the internet that is when I saw that Key West was no longer a stop. So I don't rely heavily on the internet.

Phew, I'm getting a headache.<BR><BR>Thank you for telling me what PAP stands for. <BR><BR>Are you like an association or a club? Maybe like the Knights of Columbus? What are the annual dues?<BR>How many are in your association? Do you practice in the basement?<BR><BR>Paul

You're right xxx. There was a catalog that was printed briefly (I am looking at it now, 2002-2003) that was so incorrect in its dates, itineraries and ships that travel agents could not use it. Ask any travel agent or Carnival.<BR><BR>Didn't your travel agent tell you about the itinerary when you booked.<BR>What did your original itinerary sheet, that you should have received after you placed your deposit, state?<BR><BR>That brochure caused many problems.<BR><BR><BR>Paul<BR><BR>

Well, when you start handing out the free cars, we will happily pay to get you on your own web site. Last count had us at give or take around 10 people so I guess we would be an association.<BR><BR>As far as practicing in the basement, naw we leave that up to you.

Sorry Peter but the Sensation starts 4 and 5 day trips out of Tampa on August 25. So hang on Mark it is coming sooner than you think!!