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barefootbeach Mar 11th, 2010 07:23 AM

Tipping guidelines available
 
Hi everyone,
I received a great tipping guideline sheet from Exotissimo, for Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, and Myanmar, including recommended amounts for guides, drivers, boat crews, hotels and restaurants.

I tried to copy and paste it here, but I couldn't.....it came through as a spreadsheet attachment and got all jumbled up.

So, if you're interested, contact them and I'm sure they'd send you a copy.
"exotissimo.com"

Vientianeboy Mar 11th, 2010 05:29 PM

Tipping t restaurants is not expected in Asia, but will certainly be accepted. Leave about 5000 - 10,000 kip in Laos, no more. A 50,000 Kip for an all day guide is more than enough. Sometimes companies like exotissimo overdo it.

Vientianeboy Mar 11th, 2010 05:30 PM

Oh and it is definitely not customary to tip cleaners in a hotel.

thursdaysd Mar 12th, 2010 05:31 AM

'Sometimes companies like exotissimo overdo it." - certainly not a source I would trust!

rhkkmk Mar 12th, 2010 05:46 AM

i do not like these kinds of things....you tip for good service or exceltional service regardless of what some consider the norm... give what you want and forget guidelines...

Kathie Mar 12th, 2010 07:19 AM

I've never used this company, but I would take their tipping guidelines with a large serving of salt. They are giving guidelines to travelers who are unfamiliar with SE Asia, so are using their services. These travelers come from a variety of countries, some of which have traditions of tipping and some do not. These SE Asia countries do not have traditions of tipping. But a company like exotissimo has a stake in getting you to tip their guides very generously, perhaps so they don't need to pay them so much.

Mid and higher end hotels all add a 10% service charge to your bill automatically.

barefootbeach Mar 12th, 2010 04:06 PM

Thanks to everyone for your local knowledge. If you have a guide for a day (Like Tong, Ponheary, or Putu) what do you usually give as a tip? I'm booking them and would really like to know an appropriate amount, given that they're all great.

Vientianeboy Mar 13th, 2010 12:15 AM

Already told you - 50,000 Kip a day is a nice tip for them.

barefootbeach Mar 13th, 2010 06:46 AM

Vientianeboy,
50,000 kip translates to about $6....that doesn't sound like enough.

Also, I thought perhaps the recommended amount might differ by country....what's acceptable in Laos might not be the same for Thailand or Bali.

Kathie Mar 13th, 2010 08:18 AM

barefoot, you are quite right that the economies of these countries are different from each other.

I'm not one to use guides, so I can't tell you what I've done, but many people consider the cost of a day and add a percentage. There are others who negotiate a "full cost" with a driver/guide and don't expect to add more. A lot of this is up to your discretion.

barefootbeach Mar 13th, 2010 06:59 PM

Thanks Kathie. I'm sure we'll figure this out. There's also a big variation in what country the tourist comes from. As Americans, we were given tipping guidelines for African safaris that were 3-4 times what British tourists were told to tip by their tour operators.

Kathie Mar 13th, 2010 07:44 PM

Yes, it sounds like you understand the situation, barefoot.

Vientianeboy Mar 13th, 2010 09:49 PM

Bfb, US citizens are regarded as huge tippers, (overtippers?). Believe me, the guides in Laos will be delighted with 50,000 kip. That is more than they earn in a day, so you are in effect tipping them a day's wages.
Bali is different, of course.

Vientianeboy Mar 13th, 2010 10:02 PM

My wife, (Lao), who tips more than me said $10.00 as an absolute max for all day.

barefootbeach Mar 15th, 2010 06:28 AM

Thanks again, Kathie and Vientianeboy. $10 sounds like a good amount to me.

VeloAsia Apr 7th, 2010 06:59 AM

There's no straight answer for tipping. There are factors such as the quality of the guide and perhaps their specialty, such as an adventure guide who would earn a higher rate. Nationality does affect what is expected, Americans for example are known for high tipping. However, service is key - guide experiences vary dramtically. As rhkkmk states, you tip for good service - and this amount may different for everyone from budget to high-end traveler, although $10/day is a good benchmark.

As for Exo and tour companies promoting tipping, it is an necessity to attract and keep the best guides - tips can add up to more than salary, and in turn generates better service. Ever eaten in places where tips are not customary?

thursdaysd Apr 7th, 2010 07:21 AM

"Ever eaten in places where tips are not customary?" - let's see - New Zealand, Australia, China, Japan... service was fine.

dogster Apr 7th, 2010 12:44 PM

We'll never resolve this. lol lol lol. To an Australian, this whole tipping conversation is an idiocy and the whole idea of being TOLD what to tip is a particular insult.

thursdaysd Apr 7th, 2010 01:19 PM

Seems not - what really puzzles me is these people who WANT to tip in non-tipping countries! (Even insist on it.)

Hanuman Apr 7th, 2010 07:34 PM

VeloAsia is a travel agent or travel company that has been posting here since 2004 so I guess the T-Agents want people to tips for their guides to substitute their low pay?


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